Thanks for the review. How does it compare to the Free 800 in terms of turning?

Another company copying Axis. The new Armstrong aluminium line up is almost the same base plate, doodad, and fuse. Duotone just pumping out a reverse dihedral of the Spitfire.

this is all discussed in another thread. yes, initial reaction to seeing the outline is a spitfire ripoff.... all other details seem to be much different. outline is a single parameter.

that said, I was hoping they would just make a production copy of mikeslab. why has nobody done this? that said, Mike is a master craftsman, his finish is impeccable, his layups are top secret, and his masts are super thin. It's like MilesLab one-design racing at Crissy. that said, there are fast guys on other foils... but the fastest is on ML... and would still be fastest on SS hover glide probably.

sunsetsailboards said..
this is all discussed in another thread. yes, initial reaction to seeing the outline is a spitfire ripoff.... all other details seem to be much different. outline is a single parameter.

that said, I was hoping they would just make a production copy of mikeslab. why has nobody done this? that said, Mike is a master craftsman, his finish is impeccable, his layups are top secret, and his masts are super thin. It's like MilesLab one-design racing at Crissy. that said, there are fast guys on other foils... but the fastest is on ML... and would still be fastest on SS hover glide probably.

This Whizz is a wave wing I'm not even sure mikes lab does a prone wing?
I did hear Duotone did a prototype 540 one piece similar to Mikes lab that Ken winner and few others were using that was amazing but it never went into production as not sure the demand is there for the costs. Mikes Lab doing some crazy foils have you seen the 240 Guy Cribb has. Strangely though no Mikes Lab were in the top 10 at Defi Wing (I maybe wrong) even though lots of people riding them

leepasty said..

sunsetsailboards said..
this is all discussed in another thread. yes, initial reaction to seeing the outline is a spitfire ripoff.... all other details seem to be much different. outline is a single parameter.

that said, I was hoping they would just make a production copy of mikeslab. why has nobody done this? that said, Mike is a master craftsman, his finish is impeccable, his layups are top secret, and his masts are super thin. It's like MilesLab one-design racing at Crissy. that said, there are fast guys on other foils... but the fastest is on ML... and would still be fastest on SS hover glide probably.

This Whizz is a wave wing I'm not even sure mikes lab does a prone wing?
I did hear Duotone did a prototype 540 one piece similar to Mikes lab that Ken winner and few others were using that was amazing but it never went into production as not sure the demand is there for the costs. Mikes Lab doing some crazy foils have you seen the 240 Guy Cribb has. Strangely though no Mikes Lab were in the top 10 at Defi Wing (I maybe wrong) even though lots of people riding them

Usually Fiona Wylde, who won the womens Defi, rides ML. As ML refused to take part in the registration process for the Olympics, they lost all potential market shares for real racers to Chubanga and Levitaz and focus on higher earners instead.

Considering the 2024 GWA Tour's amended format of freefly slalom, with lots of directional changes - pumping as well, but that hasn't changed - I'm convinced the Chubanga (Nia) & Cos are very versatile foils. What could be seen @ Defi was, that the Gong Team, being on their own foils, had a clear disadvantage, not so much in speed, but in control on those long legs. I'm sure Cappucco was quite jealous of Tomasis equipmen, he had given up when leaving stylish RRD for ugly Gong.

leepasty said..

sunsetsailboards said..
this is all discussed in another thread. yes, initial reaction to seeing the outline is a spitfire ripoff.... all other details seem to be much different. outline is a single parameter.

that said, I was hoping they would just make a production copy of mikeslab. why has nobody done this? that said, Mike is a master craftsman, his finish is impeccable, his layups are top secret, and his masts are super thin. It's like MilesLab one-design racing at Crissy. that said, there are fast guys on other foils... but the fastest is on ML... and would still be fastest on SS hover glide probably.

This Whizz is a wave wing I'm not even sure mikes lab does a prone wing?
I did hear Duotone did a prototype 540 one piece similar to Mikes lab that Ken winner and few others were using that was amazing but it never went into production as not sure the demand is there for the costs. Mikes Lab doing some crazy foils have you seen the 240 Guy Cribb has. Strangely though no Mikes Lab were in the top 10 at Defi Wing (I maybe wrong) even though lots of people riding them

hah, that was just a tongue in cheek comment about Duotone ripping off a design from another company... and if they were indeed going to do that, I would hope they would copy MikesLab, which is probably uncopy-able from a production point of view.

Had a chance to ride the Whizz 850 and 1000 on the Sky Style SLS 4'9" and a midlength board 85l....

unreal low end on these foils and the turning is great.

Rode the 850 first on a moderately windy day with the midlength and the 65l board, and it was insanely fun on the ferry boat wakes... very loose and slashy, easy to pump and move around. Would like to try this foil again on a proper good day in the bay.

We had some small windswell bumps to ride the 2nd day with the 1000 in light wind with the midlength board and this foil gets going really easily and has a really low stall speed... could park on slow moving bumps and just coast or do pumping turns to stay engaged. really fun I can see the 1000 being my light wind foil.

for me the Whizz need to be pushed farther forward in the tracks compared to the Glides and Frees... I was almost all the way forward. Wasn't having such a great time on these foils for general winging until I got the position dialed, but once I figured that out they rode really nicely.

185lb rider using the D/LAB 90cm mast and 60 fuse.

patronus said..
92kg wet and use 1305 Glide for winging light winds and sometimes pick up soft, knee+ high wind swells to glide along. Would a Whizz be better, and which one as don't want to lose any low-end

As I say it n the vid
for gliding on windswell stick with the glide. for turns on waves go for whizz

I don't think the Whizz is aimed at jumping. It's a prone foil that works well for winging in softer waves. I'm also loving the 1000 for playing around on flat water 360s etc and seeing how far can get the tips out. I'm using it with the p165 stab on the wing in light wind flat water.
the Carve dlab turns better and jumps way better but you need more power either in the wing or the wave, totally different foils.