Hi
I had the same experience with exactly the same foil set up and board on my first sessions.

My next few sessions were on relatively calm surface conditions and I figured out how to get speed up to get foiling.

Now I can get it going in gusty and rough conditions no problem.

Hope that helps.

KarlLQ said..
Hi
I had the same experience with exactly the same foil set up and board on my first sessions.

My next few sessions were on relatively calm surface conditions and I figured out how to get speed up to get foiling.

Now I can get it going in gusty and rough conditions no problem.

Hope that helps.

Thanks appreciate it, flat water spot tomorrow for some practice.

Axis foils have a bit of sea saw launch , they come up quick and then you need to stomp on the front foot like balancing on a sea saw to keep on the foil , if you miss that initial lift or lean back it will stall , you quickly get used to it.

warwickl said..

Piros said..
Axis foils have a bit of sea saw launch , they come up quick and then you need to stomp on the front foot like balancing on a sea saw to keep on the foil , if you miss that initial lift or lean back it will stall , you quickly get used to it.

I only experience that if board speed is too slow and/or mast is too far forward.
I have the 930 HPS, 1099 and 899 ARTs and use the 350p stab, each front wing requires a different mast positions.

What is your method for getting on foil in light winds with the 930.
I was out today on flat water and got it working really nicely. Only issue Is I don't have the light wind technique dialled yet. Still feel like it's wanting to beach/stall. I'm really having to load front leg which is taking some adjusting to.
thanks.

warwickl said..

Piros said..
Axis foils have a bit of sea saw launch , they come up quick and then you need to stomp on the front foot like balancing on a sea saw to keep on the foil , if you miss that initial lift or lean back it will stall , you quickly get used to it.

I only experience that if board speed is too slow and/or mast is too far forward.
I have the 930 HPS, 1099 and 899 ARTs and use the 350p stab, each front wing requires a different mast positions.

@warwickl, when do you use the 930 rather than the 1099. Overall wondering what role hps plays in a wing quiver. In other words, why not just the ARTs? Thx

warwickl said..
I have 740 and 810 BCS, 930 HPS, 899 and 1099 ARTs and have used all windwing. I bought the 740 for kite foiling however it's fantastic for windwing as well, the 810 for light wind kite foiling and turbulent messy water but a good around wing.
Love all my wings.
However, if I was only to have one combination it would be the 930 HPS with 350p stab.
Having said that currently the 899 ART is my favourite from 11,12 kn wind upwards.
The 1099 is excellent light wind and fantastic however, I need to commit more for jybing and frequency fail but getting there.
My next acquisition will be an Advanced fuselage and expect it will work well with the 1099.
While I continue to incrementally make progress turning 76 next month is my excuse for my skills.

Congratulations on 76, that's awesome. Makes my 58 seem like a wee boy. re pumping, do you pump the board aggressively as well. My problem is board rears up then stalls far to quickly. I have mast right at the back of box in Naish 95. Feet in comfortable position on deck when on foil.
I can get up on foil no probs when powered and board builds speed staying level. it's the stalling that annoys me. A lot to learn again. once on foil it feels great. thanks for help.

warwickl said..
RGM

Key is board speed and keep pumping until at full speed foiling when light wind

Another thought, do you have the shim fitted to the stabiliser?
If so remove it.

Quick update. I have a Takoon s450 stab which I managed to fit. foil feels a lot easier to get going, less rise and stall. Feels a much nicer set up for me, think I will use the Takoon stab to help build the technique. thanks for all the input guys appreciate it.

I went from Armstrong to an Axis 980 / 400p with an Ultrashort fuse on a Sky Wing 5"2" 2022. What I discovered is I needed the mast all the way back, where on the Armstrong it was almost all the way forward. In fact, I couldn't get it far back enough so I switched the stab to a 375p and it made it better, but I've now ordered and Advanced Crazy short fuse which is about 5cm shorter, but also moved the mast 40mmm forward. This should take care of it.But anyway, I know you said 930... but what I found is that if you're too far back on the board, or the mast is too far forward, and you begin lifting before you have enough speed, the angle will be too steep and you'll stall it. Put more front foot pressure, or move forward some more and pump a little longer to get more speed before lifting. Once up, hold that front pressure down to keep it from stalling.

Hi Warwicki and the others! :)
I wondered again what would be a better setup for "turbulent messy water" plus gusty strong winds.
I got the PNG 910 with 420speed. This was some kind of unstable and imbalanced. So I thought about the HPS 930 would be better because it can cut the chop. But also I thought about the BSC 810 or 890. But the last once got more volume and less AR!??
It was around 18 knots with fxxxxx strong gusts and wind swell from about 50cm. What u guys think again? Cause I asked once in another thread.
Cheers

Yes thanx I thought so. But this 420 Speed with winglets also is more for flat conditions.... Right?

As a lot have already said you need to turn off the wind a bit more with the HPS, but also i find if you generate a bit of board speed through pumping both wing and board before you do helps a lot with getting them up and not stalling straight away.