Naish Hover foil box failure - Reward for Lost Pryde carbon foil set at Port Beach WA

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shadow
shadow
WA
93 posts
WA, 93 posts
14 Oct 2024 8:56am
Hi All,My complete foil ripped out of my board yesterday (13/10/24), Port Beach right in front of the carpark.Im offering a $500 reward if someone finds or recovers it.

Very concerning that the foil box would fail from typical use without hitting anything.It was a very light 10 knot sesson with a 85 HM Carbon Mast, 12 Swift front wing
Cheers, Ben

Windgenuity
Windgenuity
NSW
676 posts
NSW, 676 posts
14 Oct 2024 1:57pm
Hi Ben,

Always best to go straight back to your local dealer with issues such as these. Naish have a very good reputation for looking after our customers and resolving warranty claims.

If you'd like to send an email to [email protected] with some details, pictures including the serial number and a copy of the sales receipt we'd be happy to look into this matter.

Cheers,
Matt
shadow
shadow
WA
93 posts
WA, 93 posts
14 Oct 2024 12:09pm
Thanks Matt. I actually just got a response from my local distributor who I bought everything from. So hopefully I get a good result. Its never fun to lose $5k worth of gear for something you had no control over!
Mark _australia
Mark _australia
WA
23744 posts
WA, 23744 posts
14 Oct 2024 1:14pm
So sorry to hear that. Unfortunately, early on in foiling a few manufacturers used those tracks with brittle hard plastic and they do just that. I really hope Naish sorts you out.

if you need a repair let me know as I use the 16" Chinook ones that are stronger and more adjustment of course
shadow
shadow
WA
93 posts
WA, 93 posts
15 Oct 2024 2:21pm
Mark _australia said..
So sorry to hear that. Unfortunately, early on in foiling a few manufacturers used those tracks with brittle hard plastic and they do just that. I really hope Naish sorts you out.

if you need a repair let me know as I use the 16" Chinook ones that are stronger and more adjustment of course


Thanks Mark, Sounds like Naish are going to replace both the board and some credit for the foil. If I can keep the old board I just might get a new track installed.
martyj4
martyj4
538 posts
538 posts
16 Oct 2024 7:24am
Shadow, as someone who has also had a foil box failure, I'd strongly suggest a tether from the foil mast to the board (I use a thin bit of spectra) for any old boards that might have suss boxes. I got my old board professionally repaired and it's now solid. Really hope the foil crops up. Mine took 2 days to surface on a downwind beach.
jdfoils
jdfoils
466 posts
466 posts
18 Oct 2024 11:01pm
After seeing a very similar failure locally and observing how these boards are constructed, I have come to the conclusion that this is the inevitable fate of all Naish wingfoil boards.

Luckily it is an easy repair and by adding proper reenforcement around the foil tracks along with higher quality tracks the rest of the board can be around a long time.
jonysan
jonysan
84 posts
84 posts
19 Oct 2024 3:35am
jdfoils said..
After seeing a very similar failure locally and observing how these boards are constructed, I have come to the conclusion that this is the inevitable fate of all Naish wingfoil boards.

Luckily it is an easy repair and by adding proper reenforcement around the foil tracks along with higher quality tracks the rest of the board can be around a long time.


Not 'all' Naish wingfoil boards. The problem seemed to be with quite a few of the 'Hover' boards built and sold through 2022. The reinforcement was fine, and the tracks are ok, but from experience, the lay-up in the channels that the tracks sit in, was often patchy and not gripping the tracks fully. I've had three since that time, no problems.
AUS126
AUS126
NSW
209 posts
NSW, 209 posts
19 Oct 2024 8:39am
Thanks for the heads up. Is there any warning signs before failure like soft spots, small cracks or movement at mast base?
kato
kato
VIC
3532 posts
VIC, 3532 posts
19 Oct 2024 9:47am
jonysan said..

jdfoils said..
After seeing a very similar failure locally and observing how these boards are constructed, I have come to the conclusion that this is the inevitable fate of all Naish wingfoil boards.

Luckily it is an easy repair and by adding proper reenforcement around the foil tracks along with higher quality tracks the rest of the board can be around a long time.



Not 'all' Naish wingfoil boards. The problem seemed to be with quite a few of the 'Hover' boards built and sold through 2022. The reinforcement was fine, and the tracks are ok, but from experience, the lay-up in the channels that the tracks sit in, was often patchy and not gripping the tracks fully. I've had three since that time, no problems.


I must have a good one then. Still going strong from new.
jdfoils
jdfoils
466 posts
466 posts
19 Oct 2024 8:47am
jonysan said..


jdfoils said..
After seeing a very similar failure locally and observing how these boards are constructed, I have come to the conclusion that this is the inevitable fate of all Naish wingfoil boards.

Luckily it is an easy repair and by adding proper reenforcement around the foil tracks along with higher quality tracks the rest of the board can be around a long time.




Not 'all' Naish wingfoil boards. The problem seemed to be with quite a few of the 'Hover' boards built and sold through 2022. The reinforcement was fine, and the tracks are ok, but from experience, the lay-up in the channels that the tracks sit in, was often patchy and not gripping the tracks fully. I've had three since that time, no problems.



Failed board I saw was a 2023 hover downwind. Essentially no meaningful reinforcement and poor quality tracks.
Mark _australia
Mark _australia
WA
23744 posts
WA, 23744 posts
19 Oct 2024 12:52pm
It's brittle track material and I saw a few of them. Same on Konrad
no better than cheap Chinese longboard fin boxes, so even with good glassing the nuts can tear thru. . for a long term Windsports company I think it's shocking.
however top stuff that local agent and distributors both offered to make it right.

AUS126
all I've seen were like the pic - sudden catastrophe
but surely starts with a little crack so if I had one I would look in tracks well after every sesh
Mr Soft Serve
Mr Soft Serve
NSW
53 posts
NSW, 53 posts
20 Oct 2024 1:44am
Very lucky you didn't have a foil drive on as well would have been $8500 more. My
mate puts a half hitch bit of rope from his mast back to he's leg rope plug. As this
is not the first time I have heard this happening and also different brands.
jonysan
jonysan
84 posts
84 posts
20 Oct 2024 9:40pm
This is what I found , as I prepared to fix the board (November 2021) . Adequate high density foam block, but glass cloth (laid in channels for track) was not fully wetted out, large areas of dry cloth, which had no chance of holding even the best of tracks , second photo shows routed out area for new high density block, you can see some of the original hd block.




goldenbreeze
goldenbreeze
36 posts
36 posts
21 Oct 2024 1:48am
I had the same thing happen on my hover board 2 years ago. Got replaced cost free by the dealer , said it was a known problem. Didn't bring my foil
back tho!
Microsurfer
Microsurfer
226 posts
226 posts
21 Oct 2024 2:48am
goldenbreeze said..
I had the same thing happen on my hover board 2 years ago. Got replaced cost free by the dealer , said it was a known problem. Didn't bring my foil
back tho!


Surely you sold the new board straight away after that?
goldenbreeze
goldenbreeze
36 posts
36 posts
21 Oct 2024 4:09am
Exactly. No trust anymore. Traded it in for an AK Phazer.
jdfoils
jdfoils
466 posts
466 posts
21 Oct 2024 8:48am
jonysan said..
This is what I found , as I prepared to fix the board (November 2021) . Adequate high density foam block, but glass cloth (laid in channels for track) was not fully wetted out, large areas of dry cloth, which had no chance of holding even the best of tracks , second photo shows routed out area for new high density block, you can see some of the original hd block.





That's some quality construction there...NOT
flatchat
flatchat
WA
92 posts
WA, 92 posts
21 Oct 2024 10:40am
I had a near identical failure and loss of a full foil set about 2 yrs ago, same brand and model. The warranty and backup service from the shop was unquestionable. I sold the new replacement board immediately. Hard to regain confidence in the build quality. Hopefully this has been resolved by now.
shadow
shadow
WA
93 posts
WA, 93 posts
21 Oct 2024 3:36pm
Unfortunately I have lost the receipt for my Naish Hover and despite shopping at the same store for 20 years I have no proof of purchase. Im really hoping on the goodwill of Naish to do the right thing. I dont think I'll be back for more Naish products in hurry otherwise.
Leighbreeze
Leighbreeze
WA
557 posts
WA, 557 posts
21 Oct 2024 6:06pm
Hard lesson mate.Glad they are honouring the replacement or refund.I personally wouldn't want a replacement of the same board.What about the replacement of cost of your foil kit?
SUPSurferQLD
SUPSurferQLD
QLD
340 posts
QLD, 340 posts
22 Oct 2024 7:08am
shadow said..
Unfortunately I have lost the receipt for my Naish Hover and despite shopping at the same store for 20 years I have no proof of purchase. Im really hoping on the goodwill of Naish to do the right thing. I dont think I'll be back for more Naish products in hurry otherwise.



Hi Ben,

Do you remember what Model Year the board was? I've recently bought a 2019 MY prone version, after seeing your experience, it looks like I will invest in some tether between foil and board... :D

Also - i think you can recover the foil rig if you find the expertise of a qualified scuba diver!

Thanks
Sam
shadow
shadow
WA
93 posts
WA, 93 posts
29 Oct 2024 9:12am
SUPSurferQLD said..

shadow said..
Unfortunately I have lost the receipt for my Naish Hover and despite shopping at the same store for 20 years I have no proof of purchase. Im really hoping on the goodwill of Naish to do the right thing. I dont think I'll be back for more Naish products in hurry otherwise.




Hi Ben,

Do you remember what Model Year the board was? I've recently bought a 2019 MY prone version, after seeing your experience, it looks like I will invest in some tether between foil and board... :D

Also - i think you can recover the foil rig if you find the expertise of a qualified scuba diver!

Thanks
Sam


It was Naish Y26. This is season Y28 so I think it was a 2022 board.
shadow
shadow
WA
93 posts
WA, 93 posts
29 Oct 2024 9:15am
Hi All, just to close this thread:Foil is still missing, however thanks to Daniel and Reg at Windsurfing Perth, they arranged with Naish to provide me with a brand new board and foil set- like for like.

A great outcome and testament to to the value of purchasing from your local family run store. It has certainly restored my faith in the integrity of Naish products.
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