Review is live on the v2!

www.wouzel.com/post/pocket-rocket-v2-review-why-i-m-keeping-the-3-6m-and-sold-the-2-4m

Hey Bwalnut, cool and very detailed review.


Do you think a double skin/ hybrid would be better for the really high winds? Maybe the Paia or pt hybrid instead of a 2.4m PR?


We had a big storm in Perth a few weeks ago and most riders had a 3 or 3.6 as their smallest parawing. Everyone was really struggling to control them even just going downwind. No one was really even attempting to go upwind. I am 105kg and got caught out on my 3m pt skin not able to control the wing well enough to get going again. I’m wondering if a 3m pt hybrid would give me that epic top end control but still enough low end to use on the high 20’s low 30’s days that we get more often here. I don’t think I’d get much use from a 2.5m, maybe just a couple times a year during big storms.

I have about 150 sessions on the V1’s.
I purchased 3 3.6 and 4.3 in the v2 pr and now have about 4 sessions on the v2’s.
Yes they pack up quicker but the stiff lines are a pain in the backside. Yes they have much more top end but have lost the light bar pressure and the bottom end.
So far I am pretty disappointed and will only mention a few things that I am sure of as it’s early days.
Upwind is no where near as good as v1 and as someone who upwinds to downwind this is not negotiable.
The 4.3 tips seem to collapse way too easy and this seems to occur on the tip closest to the water and results in the last 30cm of leading edge tucking up inside the other leading edge lines and get fully stuck there forcing the wing to rise radically up. To untuck requires pulling on the last leading edge lines violently.
I feel like this is happening in the downwind turbulence of the board. This is possibly causing instability in the 3 and 3.6 sizes when it momentarily collapses it doesn’t tuck up and stay there but does cause the wing to rise up without warning.
Give me my v1’s any day.
Makes me wonder what the likes of these reviewers are doing when testing. Hydrofoil gavs review of the v2 is flawless.
It’s like we got a v2 designed around a response to all the whinging.

I’ve had two more parawing sessions over the weekend. Took the 4.3m out in the upper end of its wind range. Was gusting 30knots. Wing tips folded over at max wind and felt pretty hard to control. Had the 3.6m Powerpack on my back so swapped in the water. This was much more controllable. Probably due to smaller size more than design. For my weight (85kg) i reckon the 3.6m is the optimum size parawing when correctly powered up. Not too small and twitchy but enough power to lean into it.


Today was lighter around 20knots and the 4.3m felt great. I need to work on harness line placement I think and maybe go to a two point line. I feel the PRv2 wants to ride with more back hand pressure. Not a fan of gybing the PRv2 in light wind. I figured out the stash and redeploy better today and had a lot more success. Just takes more care and effort to stow neatly than my powerpack.

baldy123 said..
I’ve had two more parawing sessions over the weekend. Took the 4.3m out in the upper end of its wind range. Was gusting 30knots. Wing tips folded over at max wind and felt pretty hard to control. Had the 3.6m Powerpack on my back so swapped in the water. This was much more controllable. Probably due to smaller size more than design. For my weight (85kg) i reckon the 3.6m is the optimum size parawing when correctly powered up. Not too small and twitchy but enough power to lean into it.


Today was lighter around 20knots and the 4.3m felt great. I need to work on harness line placement I think and maybe go to a two point line. I feel the PRv2 wants to ride with more back hand pressure. Not a fan of gybing the PRv2 in light wind. I figured out the stash and redeploy better today and had a lot more success. Just takes more care and effort to stow neatly than my powerpack.

I have the same feeling in terms of back hand pressure, maybe that is part of the problem, back lines are mainly steering, and it looks like in those videos with vertical movement is happening when the bar is fully on depower mode.

pp4 said..

baldy123 said..
I’ve had two more parawing sessions over the weekend. Took the 4.3m out in the upper end of its wind range. Was gusting 30knots. Wing tips folded over at max wind and felt pretty hard to control. Had the 3.6m Powerpack on my back so swapped in the water. This was much more controllable. Probably due to smaller size more than design. For my weight (85kg) i reckon the 3.6m is the optimum size parawing when correctly powered up. Not too small and twitchy but enough power to lean into it.


Today was lighter around 20knots and the 4.3m felt great. I need to work on harness line placement I think and maybe go to a two point line. I feel the PRv2 wants to ride with more back hand pressure. Not a fan of gybing the PRv2 in light wind. I figured out the stash and redeploy better today and had a lot more success. Just takes more care and effort to stow neatly than my powerpack.

I have the same feeling in terms of back hand pressure, maybe that is part of the problem, back lines are mainly steering, and it looks like in those videos with vertical movement is happening when the bar is fully on depower mode.

My 3m PT skin gets a bit twitchy and wiggles up and down a bit when it’s at its top end, especially in gusty conditions. I find a bit of back line pressure really helps this and smooths it out. Obviously different wings so I don’t know if that’s relevant but works for me.

Have ridden the 4.3m PR V2 twice now, gusty crappy conditions. Not much of an upgrade over my Frigates as far as performance, upwind and speed. Main win is the collapse which is way better. A bit more stable in gusts with less flapping but harder to sort out in the water and get back in the air. Ends stick in the water and the lines still tangle more than the Frigate lines. Big win is how comfortable it is in gusts rock solid no flapping. Adding up all the small wins I am very happy. 🎉

hilly said..
Have ridden the 4.3m PR V2 twice now, gusty crappy conditions. Not much of an upgrade over my Frigates as far as performance, upwind and speed. Main win is the collapse which is way better. A bit more stable in gusts with less flapping but harder to sort out in the water and get back in the air. Ends stick in the water and the lines still tangle more than the Frigate lines. Big win is how comfortable it is in gusts rock solid no flapping. Adding up all the small wins I am very happy. 🎉

I will not agree that the lines tangle more, the frigate lines are horrible, plus the frigate tends to fold tips more in high winds. I guess it depends on the size and how old are the lines, but the stashing experience with the frigate 4,7m was so bad that I went back to BRMs

Something that has been remarkable to me is that across platforms the commentary in response to this review has been a little mixed on larger sizes. Some people are loving them and others not so much. I did not expect that. Before publishing, I hadn't heard anything but praise for the larger sizes, and thought my 3.6 was great.

I also did some dw/uw laps with a friend this week. He went out on his new 2.4 v2, but ended up going back in to swap it out for his power pack.

I have the ozone pr v2 2.4 and my experience is that it only starts working with gusts of 28 knots and upwards for me . Aka the solid black zone on their chart . Average wind speed can be lower but the gusts need to be up there. I come from a windsurfing background and my experience at least in Norway is that stronger winds bring a greater difference between average speed and the gusts hence when I windsurf a 3.6 sail it can feel quite twitchy / on and off. Same could be said for parawings so I’m not at all surprised it feels a bit nervous. Haven’t had the chance to ride it much but it certainly saves the day when my daily driver (north rover 3.5 ) becomes a handful and wants to take me with it… 😂

If you're happy ride it til it dies!

Youngbreezy said..
Anyone got thoughts on the 5.7 pr v2? I am wondering if I should replace my 5.4 pt skin with a 5.7 pr v2 or maybe a 5.5 ltx ?? ( or just keep the PT skin coz I’m pretty happy with it)

Just grabbed the 5.7 V2 to get a bit more low end(also have the 5'4m PT skin which I highly rate) - only one quick session so far, but does seem to have more grunt and lines seem shorter.
Pretty happy with gybing ability for such a big wing. Stashed canopy size is large. Did get the wingtips stuck in a few times when redeploying, not sure why but probably operator error.
Seemed harder to control in 20 knots than the 5.4m PT.
Need some more sessions to give a decent comparison, but will post when I do.

hilly said..


Still struggling with the lines they do not stow as easily as the Frigate.

Agreed, lines are kinda like wire and don't want to stow. I still like the V1 lines better despite the (rare anymore) tangles.

could really anything match the hybrid in strong winds? I can't see a single skin really being able to match the comfort and performance of an hybrid well powered.... I just can't

scheggia said..
could really anything match the hybrid in strong winds? I can't see a single skin really being able to match the comfort and performance of an hybrid well powered.... I just can't

Yeah I think you’re right. In a recent podcast ( up on foil) Aljaz Valic 777 designer said that there are limitations in the physics of a single skin airfoil. Coming from a kitiing background I have ridden 5m kites kite foiling in 30 knots and been totally comfortable but with a parawing a 4.2m barely holds up above 25knots. When I got a good session on the pt hybrid ( thanls sheps) that was the closest I have felt to the easy, smooth, fast upwind that I felt kite foiling.

Youngbreezy said..

scheggia said..
could really anything match the hybrid in strong winds? I can't see a single skin really being able to match the comfort and performance of an hybrid well powered.... I just can't

Yeah I think you’re right. In a recent podcast ( up on foil) Aljaz Valic 777 designer said that there are limitations in the physics of a single skin airfoil. Coming from a kitiing background I have ridden 5m kites kite foiling in 30 knots and been totally comfortable but with a parawing a 4.2m barely holds up above 25knots. When I got a good session on the pt hybrid ( thanls sheps) that was the closest I have felt to the easy, smooth, fast upwind that I felt kite foiling.

What is the low down grunt like to get going?



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