Hello
First of all, a little bit about myself, as I am new to this forum. My name is Andreas and I come from good old Germany.
I've been reading here for some time now and am currently preoccupied with a question that I probably won't get answered in a German forum, as these two words don't come up very often there.
I'm currently considering buying the Omen Flux in 84 l or the Sunova Carver in 85.3 l and am torn between the two boards.
I currently ride the Duotone Skybrid in 100 l, but I'm not 100 percent convinced.
Maybe one of you has experience with both boards and can give me some advice.
I look forward to reading your answers and thank you in advance

Botschi

Hi
For me, the climbing performance and maneuverability are the most interesting aspects.
Since I ride the Duotone glide series, it would also be interesting to find out how the Sonova or the Omen perform with foils.
At the moment, I'm leaning towards the Sunova!
Somehow, I really like the brand, although Greg from Omen deserves three thumbs up for the quality of his advice.
He's a good guy.

I have had the 84l flux for 2 years now. Awesome board.

I haven't ridden the Carver, but right now Carvers are on sale in the USA so I would probably buy one because of the price. At regular price i would get a custom Carver to make it a bit thinner.

Either would be great.

Botschi said..
First of all, thank you very much for your answers.
The decision is actually not easy, especially since there is hardly any opportunity to test ride one of the boards here, but rather to buy more or less on spec.
It is important that both boards are compatible with the Duoton foils.
I'm not really dissatisfied with the Skybrid, but I would have expected a little more in terms climbing Performance

Choice is easy- Omen.
I own both and the Omen design with Appletree build is as good as it gets imho.
If you did get the Sunova...nice board

Yes, I know that, but I think I can handle it.
I'm actually more concerned with the question of who would choose which board if they had the choice.
As I said, here in Germany, as well as in Holland, you can't find Omen boards at all, unfortunately.
Apple Tree boards are quite popular here, though.
I'm also concerned about the possibility of a necessary repair. It's probably easier to get around with the black board.
You have to be prepared for anything.

Botschi said..

I'm also concerned about the possibility of a necessary repair.

i own the Omen Flux (72L) and over the years, the nose on it got a bit torn apart...probably from me hitting it on the concrete while washing it off after each session. but it's never taken on water so apparently their claims about the construction are true. i've repaired the nose periodically with sun-cure and fiberglass just for aesthetics, so it's not a big deal.

All else being equal, how much easier does a 20" board get on foil than a 22" board?

I agree that width is a factor in why the skybrid doesn't get on foil as easily. It also has no angled chines or any tail kicker.

I'm an beginner/intermediate foiler and sometimes I think the roll stability gains from a slightly wider board at 22" might help me in my progression to an advanced foiler. If I can't balance on my board before getting on foil I will waste a lot of energy during my session. Also my guess is the drag penalty from an extra 2" width is probably less than 10% but someone better at math than me can correct me.

windwaterfoil said..
All else being equal, how much easier does a 20" board get on foil than a 22" board?

I agree that width is a factor in why the skybrid doesn't get on foil as easily. It also has no angled chines or any tail kicker.

I'm an beginner/intermediate foiler and sometimes I think the roll stability gains from a slightly wider board at 22" might help me in my progression to an advanced foiler. If I can't balance on my board before getting on foil I will waste a lot of energy during my session. Also my guess is the drag penalty from an extra 2" width is probably less than 10% but someone better at math than me can correct me.

Hull shape makes a difference too in stability...I've got the Omen Flux 72 and was a bit surprised by the lack of stability on the water it has vs. flatter bottom boards. It forced me to change my starts, which has been a good advancement, but there was suffering involved.

I do love the Appletree materials/construction...

flowstate said..

take the camera next go-out B, love to see yr evolution of that hooked-in bum start!

I'll bring the cam and try to get inspired!

BWalnut said..

flowstate said..

take the camera next go-out B, love to see yr evolution of that hooked-in bum start!

I'll bring the cam and try to get inspired!

Please also record your wing start. Been waiting for it since you posted the indoor version on instagram. Especially the sinker start.

Borje said..

BWalnut said..

flowstate said..

take the camera next go-out B, love to see yr evolution of that hooked-in bum start!

I'll bring the cam and try to get inspired!

Please also record your wing start. Been waiting for it since you posted the indoor version on instagram. Especially the sinker start.

I'll see if I can get someone to film me doing it. Maybe POV is just as good though?

I have the omen flux 60 ltr. Incredible board, it's my only board and gets me going in everything. I am 175 lbs in fresh water. Once it's up on top of the water it goes! Nice and thin so the sensitivity is awesome. Have put a hole in it and it didn't suck in water. Repaired with carbon cloth and all is good! Hightly recommend Omen!

Botschi said..
I have now decided on the Omen Flux, which I found slightly used in the Kleinanzeigen.
First of all, thank you very much for all the replies and tips.

I will keep you posted.

Regards, Botschi

Good choice.