Race to Rotto 2007

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Race2Rotto
Race2Rotto
WA
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31 Aug 2006 10:21pm
Yep... it's on! Well... hopefully . But we need volunteers to help make this event a success!

Keep an eye out for future messages posted on seabreeze, full event details will be coming out soon.

But if you'd like to help make this event a success, like your chance to compete in the only legal race to Rottnest then we'd like you to help us get this event off the ground!

We're looking for volunteers to be involved in helping with approvals, obtaining sponsors, organising logistics, PR, advertising and event safety.

Email your interest to [email protected]

We'll be organising a get together soon and be rewarding all of our volunteers!
Juddy
Juddy
WA
1103 posts
WA, 1103 posts
1 Sep 2006 9:13am
have you got a date in mind?
azza
azza
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1 Sep 2006 12:40pm
quote:
Originally posted by Race2Rotto

[b]We're looking for volunteers to be involved in helping with approvals, obtaining sponsors, organising logistics, PR, advertising and event safety.


Hmmmmm... no doubt some-one will have to keep an eye on him.
Race2Rotto
Race2Rotto
WA
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WA, 12 posts
2 Sep 2006 2:53pm
Nice spot azza!

Dates... well we're hoping to hold it in lateJan/February/early March for the best winds and to give us enough time to get sponsors and all of the approvals. There's already lots of WAKSA events on during Feb and the Rottnest Channel Swim takes out another weekend.

I'll put out another post to suss what people's feelings are for dates - but volunteer numbers will really impact on this!

Come on volunteers! Even if you can only suggest some contacts for possible sponsorship we'd love to you to dob them in! Email [email protected] with their name, email and work phone no. And we'll see if they may be interested!

If you can help out in anyway that would be great! We'll need boats, someone to help with websites, logistical support, first aiders, radios and lots more!
MikeN
MikeN
WA
368 posts
WA, 368 posts
4 Sep 2006 5:04pm
There is a lot of work involved in setting up a run over to Rotto , so if you have ever wanted to make the trip with a kite here is the best and easiest way to do it .
I have done the crossing and it is worth doing . I will be following on a jetski this time if it all gets off the ground so no personal agenda here .

If you are at all interested in seeing this happen , please start doing something straight away . It will not happen if people don't get involved .

WAKSA is not organising this but will help out if it happens .

It is up to the kiters who want to do it to start organising it .

There are a few guys who have offered to sort out all the legal side of things and co-ordinate everything ,so all that has to be found is the people to take care of the physical side of things .

It will not be set up like the Rotto Classic .
Get in touch with the boys to get the details .



gruezi
gruezi
WA
3464 posts
WA, 3464 posts
4 Sep 2006 9:14pm
Last count Melville had 11 kiters interested in going over with 2 possible support boats.

Many will volunteer some time on the condition of getting a crossing.

MikeN, you had a great idea about having the race be a team event. And brooksy, you are the champ to want to take this one on!

If we have teams of 4 with 1 support boat per team, then Melville will field at least 3 teams...team A,B & C.

Melville looking for a coach.
carbine
carbine
WA
1450 posts
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4 Sep 2006 9:22pm
ill go it aswell.

can prolly get support boat if other people on team will chip in for fuel (5.7L mercury Ouch)
vishy
vishy
WA
451 posts
WA, 451 posts
4 Sep 2006 9:54pm
Hey,
I'm sure if enough notice is given I can have our boat going as well for support, will be very keen to enter as well,
Maybe a meeting with all interested parties wil be necessary and some guidelines ready?
Wicked idea
Thanks
Matt
captainkaos
captainkaos
WA
247 posts
WA, 247 posts
4 Sep 2006 10:31pm
Ill put my hand up again for setting up on the other side(shade,tables,drinks,wind reports from the island ect)if you need help doing that.

Karl
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Tony
Tony
WA
67 posts
WA, 67 posts
5 Sep 2006 7:53am
I'm in, let me know where I can help. I want to be in Melville A
Race2Rotto
Race2Rotto
WA
12 posts
WA, 12 posts
5 Sep 2006 8:27am
Just to let everyone know that, provided we get enough finanical support, volunteers will be well rewarded.

So far everything is progressing well. We've started talking with DPI, Freo Ports, Fremantle City Council and the Rottnest Island Authority. All have given positive feedback so far! And an event logo is being designed as we speak!

Announcement about a meeting of all interested volunteers to come very soon... Stay tuned!

If you are interested make sure you email [email protected] so you are included on all the mailing.

Cheers
brooksy
NorthSide
NorthSide
WA
238 posts
WA, 238 posts
5 Sep 2006 10:11am
My wife suggested trying Channel 7 for sponsorship? She could chase in the chopper with the camo Hanging out the side. Far better news than Today Tonight rubbish
I'm keen to participate, although February is out for me
NathanReeves
NathanReeves
WA
61 posts
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5 Sep 2006 2:16pm
Any chance of including some windsurfers? Sounds like a great idea.
kitecrazzzy
kitecrazzzy
WA
2184 posts
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5 Sep 2006 6:12pm
umm well, awkward situation ay
im sure you can be included but you will have to pick up kiting real fast[}:)]
Race2Rotto
Race2Rotto
WA
12 posts
WA, 12 posts
5 Sep 2006 9:14pm
Hey everyone!

Great to see all the offers of help coming in. Announcement about a meeting for volunteers will hopefully come out tomorrow.

As for windsurfers joining in - unfortunately this time it won't be possible for us to get approval. But you just never know in the future . I'd love to see a windsurfer v kitesurfer race to rotto!

You couldn't tell me who is the contact for the windsurfing comp planned for South Freo in Jan, could you?

brooksy
gasman
gasman
WA
320 posts
WA, 320 posts
5 Sep 2006 10:57pm
Glad to see the interest, and I'd like to raise some issues from my experiences. As an ex yacht owner, I've sailed accross 200 times. I've windsurfed PAST Rotto, and I've kited there and back (can anyone beat 35 minutes by the way, Freo to Natural Jetty?)

Any support craft worth having need to be able to handle 35 kn wind and 2m chop, otherwise don't bother going out. So we're talking about serious boats, otherwise the kiters will be rescuing the support staff.

I suggest starting from Port Beach Freo ....... its a lovely broad reach accross to Natural Jetty, no mucking around with tacking upwind inshore like last time. That only encourages people to use oversized kites, which won't help you survive the real issue, which is when the wind picks up 15 km out and the swell starts as you get outside the reef south of Rotto.

By all means have a qualification event the week before, but make it a proper dash to Rotto.

I'm sure IY will tell you that RIA is difficult to deal with and inflexible, but please ...... a January race, when you've got a 90% chance of a bloody good wind.

This should be an exercise for advanced kiters. Fostering intermediate kiters to do it providing we get mild conditions is risky. I'd keep it as hard core as possible.
Juddy
Juddy
WA
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6 Sep 2006 10:48am
what standard of kiting would be deemed to be minimum/essential to participate?
NorthSide
NorthSide
WA
238 posts
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6 Sep 2006 12:04pm
Okay, I have some ideas, but they are just suggestions that may help provoke further thought and ideas to solve problems involved in setting up this event.
It could be turned into an event that is aimed at raising funds for the Surf Life Saving clubs of W.A. Also make it a race for kiters and windsurfers. This would help build a better relationship between the surf life saving clubs, kiters & windsurfers. Also it would be much easier to gain public/commercial sponsorship and 'suitable' support boats, the surf clubs may even help? This would also mean it would be easier to attract media coverage and I'm sure prizes could be arranged by some sponsors for class place getters and the usual fun awards.
You could start the race from Rottnest Island and finish at a chosen point along the coastline? It is much easier and safer to aim for the West Coast of Australia than a small island, especially with South Westerlies in your favour. Also be easier for attracting more public to a finish line located on a Perth beach.
These are just a few ideas and I'm sure you probably want the event kept more low key?
You have come up with a fantastic idea with an infinite amount of potential if it is not run too close to the Rottnest Classic weekend.
Call the 'Chief Of Staff' at the TV stations if enquiring about coverage/ sponsorship.
I'm extremely busy with full time work and a couple of Uni courses through to the end of November, but only too willing to help where I can after that.
Regards
James
rez
rez
WA
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rez rez
WA, 354 posts
6 Sep 2006 2:36pm
Sounds great! I like Northside's ideas....though it would be good to finish at Rotto and hit the tavern there! How would the race be started??? Would everyone be numbered and have a starting time or would it be a all at once kind of thing?
Race2Rotto
Race2Rotto
WA
12 posts
WA, 12 posts
6 Sep 2006 3:13pm
OK, slow down everyone. If you'd like to help out please email me at [email protected], I don't really want to discuss all the finer aspect of the event via a forum. But I'll address the issues as they come up...

First of all we're working through the approvals and it won't be possible to get approvals through for windsurfers and kitesurfers through for this season. We're already running short for time.

I'd love to run a qualification event but it costs money, time and resources. And with an already busy season ahead there just aren't the free weekends, time, money or people to help out. So we will have other safety mechanisms in place to ensure those that do enter can safely finish the race. And safety is the no. 1 priority - period.

While it is a race participation and completion is way more important than who arrives in what order.

Starting from rottnest is a good idea - but we have some logistics issues that has ruled that out, this time. But we'll keep it in mind.

We're approaching suitable sponsors, and we'd like to run a bigger event in the future, but we have to get one to run safely and successfully first.

So by all means we'd love to see as many people helping out as possible, and it's generating heaps of interest, but for this year - it's a little more low key. We want to run one first.

JUST A REMINDER:
IT IS ILLEGAL TO CROSS TO/FROM ROTTENST. PLEASE DO NOT TRY THIS BY YOURSELF!
Even if you have a safety boat it is STILL ILLEGAL. And speaking with all of the approving authorities you will have to be one wealthy and influential kiter/windsurfer to get approval.
poor relative
poor relative
WA
9106 posts
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7 Sep 2006 3:13pm
Agree keep it hardcore it aint for the faint hearted eh
carbine
carbine
WA
1450 posts
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7 Sep 2006 4:14pm
make it like the rottnest return, have to beat upwind a few k's to a marker first 20 or so get to go across all the **** people who don't make it bad luck.
gasman
gasman
WA
320 posts
WA, 320 posts
7 Sep 2006 8:18pm
Hey dude, read my comment above. By requiring the irrelevant action of going upwind inshore on locally low wind speed you will encourage people to enter with kites that are too large. There is a huge difference between inshore wind and wind 15 km out on most days.

Yes, you're not allowed to kite to Rotto. When "I" came back last time "I" left Stark Bay in 35 Kn and arrived at Cott in 15 Kn. Use this experience however illicit. Don't encourage people to use oversized kites!

By all means have an up wind race some other time, its grerat fun, but has **** all to do with sailing to Rotto.
carbine
carbine
WA
1450 posts
WA, 1450 posts
7 Sep 2006 9:39pm
quote:
Originally posted by gasman

Hey dude, read my comment above. By requiring the irrelevant action of going upwind inshore on locally low wind speed you will encourage people to enter with kites that are too large. There is a huge difference between inshore wind and wind 15 km out on most days.

Yes, you're not allowed to kite to Rotto. When "I" came back last time "I" left Stark Bay in 35 Kn and arrived at Cott in 15 Kn. Use this experience however illicit. Don't encourage people to use oversized kites!

By all means have an up wind race some other time, its grerat fun, but has **** all to do with sailing to Rotto.



how would you suggest limiting numbers in a fair way while insuring a minimum skill level of riders involved
brooksy
brooksy
WA
498 posts
WA, 498 posts
18 Oct 2006 4:47pm
Just an update on progress...

Volunteer numbers have dwindled to dangerously low levels. Unfortunately big events like these need lots of support BEFORE the event. We still need help with obtaining sponsors, getting media coverage, and organising the actual day (logistics). Volunteers will be rewarded for their help. And what better way to get involved in kiting, especially for new people to the sport. Come along and meet some new kiting buddies!

If you can help out please email mailto:[email protected]
19 Oct 2006 7:29am
any update on the proposed date?
brooksy
brooksy
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19 Oct 2006 8:50am
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