Hi
I've been riding a 12m 2009 Naish-Cult. Its a perfect kite but in WA condition it is a little too big (I'm 82 kg + PFD + Helmet + Wet suite).
I want to get a 9m kite and I want it to be a fast kite as I'm progressing in jumping and free style.

I'm down to 3 choices: SS Fuel 09/North Vegas 09/Naish Torch 09.

Will you please rate each one of them from 0 to 10 in your opinion and if its possible bring some reasons for not recommending the other ones.

Good wind
Alex

best yarga 09

I own a 10m 09 Torch and absolutely love it (I did swap back to the shift system depower strap rather than use the smartloop depower....personal preference). I know that the 10m are sold out (some shops might have stock) and there was 1 9m left last I heard (again some shops may have stock). It turns really quickly, is a dream unhooked, has plenty of power and with the smart loop plenty of bar throw depower.

I have ridden a 9m 08 Vegas but with the changes they made to the 09 i don't think i could really comment.

Haven't ridden a fuel but I intend to give one a try,

arent slower kites better for jumping?
I have a 9m 2008 vegas. wicked for everything. sweet unhooked pop, no effort at all needed, plenty of depower, safe, boosts are big, VERY quick kite. Mate has a 09 Torch 10m. says its best kite his had. unhooks, boost with ease not as fast as vegas tho. more steady unhooked.

why a c kite? Aren't there bow/ sle's out there that will do the same thing? I have noticed there is a bit of a movement back to c's. I've never tried one but would like to. I just thought if you wanted a quicker kite you could always go a fast bow/sle like a 9m rev, furia, edge, eh rhipper, nemisis ?? will be heaps quicker than a 12 cult and wouldn't a 9m sle have more grunt and a wider wind range than a c? (genuine question..as I've said, never flown a c kite)

c kites feel way better at the bar. try my catapult hawks out they are insane kites, better than 09 torches for sure. torches seems to be going backwards imo.

only flown a 11m fuel and it was pretty good but heavy bar in the turns.

havnt flown 09 vegas yet though.

Kadkhah said...

From my understanding we have:
2.5 votes for Torch
2.5 votes for Vegas
0.5 vote for Fuel

from what i'm reading,

You can't get a 9m 09 Vegas....sold out
You may be able to get a second hand 9m 09 Torch
You can get a 9m Fuel.
Or you wait till the 2010's come out

I love my 10m 08 Vegas too but then I've not demo'd a torch or fuel so can't compare.

You read the whole thing see if you can decide?


I guess its not easy to pick one in three when all of them are the best kites in the market.

Can some one help me choose (Don't worry about the sold out, as soon as you show the money they will send you the kite from one of their stores in Mars)

bobjaan said...

KadKHah

Come and try one of my fuels for yourself and then you can decide.

Thank you for your offer but I'm not that professional to feel the difference at this stage! that's why I'm asking more experienced guys
(Will you please tell me why you think its better than the other two?)

Good Wind
Alex

Simple, the fuel delivers constant pull giving you good pop and kiteloops are insane.

Biggest difference with C is that the bar is easier to pass as the kite does not drift taking up slack after popping. This is because it has no bridles.

If you like wake style then C kite is way to go. Fuel as I am biased

Try a kite and if you like it buy it

I'll throw my vote in for the 2009 Fuel 9m. Awesome kite, i have mine rigged up on 20m lines now & awesome response Super faster, huge boost & great to unhook
Did i mention super easy relaunch...

I don't see any problem with getting a C kite now in anticipation of pulling flat 3's in the future.

I ride both types of kite; a 7 meter Ozone with a surfboard when it is wavey, and a ten meter Torch when it is flat and not windy, and I am feeling like getting rinsed doing freestyle stuff.

The Ozone is nice, but the Torch has better or snappier performance, and is therefore good for freestyle.

Basics: C kites turn from the corners, flat kites turn from the middle. Therefore, it's easier to loop a C kite - it literally turns on its wingtips (unless you have a crappy old one).

Bottom line: you can do tricks on a C kite with the bar pushed out against the stopper and it will still pull you. Means you can do powered tricks more easily one handed. You can use the other hand to hold up your shorts. On a flat kite, you have to pull in on the bar more for power.

The downside; if it's really gusty where you normally kite, then you'll find a C kite a bit of a handful to begin with, even the Torch with its 5th-line nice-ness.

I'd say nice things about a Torch forever - they are really usable, powerful responsive kites... I've had a 7, 9 and a ten. I've tried Slingshots, and North C kites. Slingy was OK. North I found impossible, but could just be me.....

mjaygray said...

...I have ridden both the Slingshot&Torch - specifically to test the difference ...

That was exactly the kind of respond I was waiting for.
Some one who tried at least two of these three.

Thanks mate

You guys are awesome.
Thank you all for your responds.
It will be an 8m or a 9m torch then.

Good Wind
Alex