kiteloop and knees dont go well together

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h20fly
h20fly
WA
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28 Nov 2007 8:21pm
yup claimed another victim those damn kiteloops.. why do they have to feel so good. hyper-extention of the left knee when i landed torn my lateral crucia ligament, posterior curcia ligament and damage to my miniscus.. exuse the spelling 8 weeks recovery there goes my season i bet its a windy season too.
manicskier
manicskier
VIC
772 posts
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28 Nov 2007 10:23pm
Gee, not good... Is 8 weeks a little optimistic, friends who have done the same thing require surgery and sometimes upto 6 months recovery... sorry to put a dampner on it
h20fly
h20fly
WA
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28 Nov 2007 8:24pm
they will be lucky to keep me off the water for 8 weeks :) ill give it atleast 2
okin
okin
QLD
83 posts
QLD, 83 posts
28 Nov 2007 9:33pm
did both anterior cruciate ligaments, took me a year ,
good luck
h20fly
h20fly
WA
384 posts
WA, 384 posts
28 Nov 2007 9:02pm
ow. acl is worse than pcl or lcl, generally needs surgery and to be reattached. bad luck dude.. did you do it kiting?
bobjaan
bobjaan
WA
314 posts
WA, 314 posts
28 Nov 2007 9:14pm
mate, don't rush back onto the water, a friend of mine did the same and rushed back, now has lifetime of problems with his knees
KiteDevil
KiteDevil
TAS
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29 Nov 2007 12:08am
well tell us some gore, were you in straps/boots? was it a good/bad loop? bad/good takeoff? Big/little kite/wind? Can you trace back to what it was, landed on one side etc?
Just curious and sorry to hear about your pain. My advice is to try and stay off the piss if you can, I saw a mate dancing on his new surgery, ended up getting it done another 3 times!
Fitzy
Fitzy
QLD
617 posts
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28 Nov 2007 11:16pm
Yeah .... and for heavens sake move your knees out of the way when you are looping the kite !!!!!!!



Mend soon

Fitzy - Gold Coast OZ
h20fly
h20fly
WA
384 posts
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28 Nov 2007 10:48pm
KiteDevil said...

well tell us some gore, were you in straps/boots? was it a good/bad loop? bad/good takeoff? Big/little kite/wind? Can you trace back to what it was, landed on one side etc?
Just curious and sorry to hear about your pain. My advice is to try and stay off the piss if you can, I saw a mate dancing on his new surgery, ended up getting it done another 3 times!


straps dude.. the loop i wasnt ashamed off it had a good pace it was funny cus i remember thinking should i ditch the board because i picked up some good speed and i thought nah ill land it went down hit the water hard and i had my weight to far forward so it straightened my front (left) leg and then itr tried to bend.. the wrong way. oww

it was a 9 metre waroo in about 20 knots . and woodies off shore so i had to bloody stand on my board to make it back in to shore.

heheh i went with the theory of just walk it off.. well ride it off..you know... rub some dirt in it :) so i tried to go back out about 10 min later but then realised kiting isnt as much fun when you dont want to land a jump.. im glad i did come back in in hignsight :)
Bertus
Bertus
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29 Nov 2007 12:06am
That sound very bad. Just give it the rest it need mate. If you hurt it again, it's just going to take longer or even be permanent.
TeamSpank
TeamSpank
NSW
1 posts
NSW, 1 posts
29 Nov 2007 1:31am
meh....I did my acl about 2 years ago(motorbike)..........best advice is get the surgery..........I was wrestling within a day but work on hamstring,calves and quads hardcore at the gym....then the recovery isn't that bad........I only had 7 hamtsring tears(apparently thats good)......but now it gives me zero trouble.....oh I've only just started to kite......workin on standing up(yes I suck bad!!!!)
KiteDevil
KiteDevil
TAS
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29 Nov 2007 9:07am
Thanks for the rundown, it's good to know what to avoid when landing. Stay back or bail seems to be the go. Once again my condolences to your knee.
sneakybutche
sneakybutche
VIC
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29 Nov 2007 4:42pm
I think you are being super optimistic if you think you'll be kiting in 8 weeks. Most pro AFL footballers who do thier ACL don't play agin for at least 6 months, most take 12 to come good, they are professional and have a full time rehab program worked out.

I did my knee kiting this time last year, had surgery just before christmas and have only just managed to get back on the board! Are you sure you tore all those ligaments? There was no way i could bear any weight on my leg after i did it. I guess that could have been the compression fractures in the bone! I am now using a Don Joy Armor Extreme Knee Brace for added support when i kite. This stops the hyperextension of your knee and gives you a little extra confidence on the water. I have only been out about a dozen times since and am starting to get my confidence back, however it is always in the back of your mind. The "no fear" factor has definelty gone away, i only hope it will return some day.

Good luck with your recovery, get surgery, do lots of rehab and don't rush your comeback as there is a high chance of doing more damage and that only means more time off the water.
Leeds
Leeds
NSW
209 posts
NSW, 209 posts
29 Nov 2007 7:51pm
last week i landed on a sandbar about waist deep and bruised my heel
yeah i know its no where near as bad as what you guys are talking about but i tried to tuff it out today and every bit of chop i hit was just like hitting my heel with a sledge hammer and thats with LF luxury straps with the nice little air cushions
couldnt dig the board in so thought i better let it heel properly or ill just make it worse
Charl dv
Charl dv
WA
2485 posts
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29 Nov 2007 7:39pm
u hit a sand bar.. that was waist deep... wtf.

but seriously.. yer i bruised my heel once.. n i kited with my broken toe.. it hurts but yeh its managable
okin
okin
QLD
83 posts
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29 Nov 2007 9:46pm
did left acl snowboarding at perisher, dropped down into a big bowl section full of powder and an underground stream , my knee just collapsed beneath me. had surgery, recovered, got back into stuff after 6 months then did right acl playing sport. went to the same surgeon to repair and he broke off bone where he was trying to attach the screw and drove the screw up into my leg! . they had to find a radiologist at another hospital to come find where the screw went to.
The 2 hour opperation turned into 6 hours. they gave me so much drugs to keep me under while they located the radiologist (who was in a black spot @ another hospital) they had trouble reviving me.
had to spend 6 weeks with knee in a splint (no movement) instead of the normal 2 cause they had to attach the screws the older way.
all i can say is do the exercises the physio gives you even though they seem stupid.
i had to change to a directional board (not ready to ride switch yet)
and i bail out if my landing looks suss.
h20fly
h20fly
WA
384 posts
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29 Nov 2007 10:08pm
acl is probably the worst injury you can do to a knee luckily thats not the ligament i tore. i did partial tear to the lcl and pcl so hopefully its full recovery with out surgery its the damage to the miniscus thats might require surgery :( i can put wiehgt on it already (with a brace on) ..8 weeks.. no more dammit!@ :)
Charl dv
Charl dv
WA
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29 Nov 2007 10:15pm
wat lesson did we learn from this kiddies.. BEND UR KNEES for landings
gruezi
gruezi
WA
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29 Nov 2007 10:36pm
Man okin, what a painful experience....makes me think about getting medivaced to another hospital before I committ...shame.
Spacemonkey!
Spacemonkey!
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30 Nov 2007 7:14pm
Meh I saw the loop, it was 2m off the water, looped real late. The reason you hurt yourself is because you hesitated and looped it real late and slow. Still don't know your limits.
cwamit
cwamit
WA
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30 Nov 2007 10:27pm
hi spacemonkey. when you say he looped it too late do you mean he popped too early? from what i have seen its popping once loaded by the kite at the botom of the loop - least for f16 right?... happy to seek advice from a flat water bandit!


sorry to hear your pain h20fly hope you get a swift recovery - nice new alias btw!
carbine
carbine
WA
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1 Dec 2007 12:14am
cwamit said...

hi spacemonkey. when you say he looped it too late do you mean he popped too early? from what i have seen its popping once loaded by the kite at the botom of the loop - least for f16 right?... happy to seek advice from a flat water bandit!


sorry to hear your pain h20fly hope you get a swift recovery - nice new alias btw!




umm the kite didnt catch him is what spacemonkey means. If u land with the kite near the bottom of the loop you will land getting yanked forwards and more likely to hurt yourself. In a properly exacuted kiteloop u will just land like a rock from up high and if your not retarded land on your ass or hip. Go bigger, pull it earlier.

the only way u get hurt in a kiteloop is by not committing enough.

sorry to here u get injured, but its the price you pay when you swing above your weight. You do seem very accident prone.

I had a tiny lateral mensicus tear, constant pounding from kiting really agrivated it and decided to go under the knife, snip snip back on the water in 3 weeks. Best thing i did was sell my underground flx, everytime i get back on a flx i get knee pain. The meniscus tear wont hold u back getting on the water but seriously wait till your ligaments are as good as gold!

One other tip, if your going to do rehab dont go to hard in the gym then go kiting. I made that mistake the other day, ended up with a minor subluxation of my shoulder after having a big shoulder work (recovering from labrum tear) out and not fully recovering.
h20fly
h20fly
WA
384 posts
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1 Dec 2007 12:43am
carbine said...

cwamit said...

hi spacemonkey. when you say he looped it too late do you mean he popped too early? from what i have seen its popping once loaded by the kite at the botom of the loop - least for f16 right?... happy to seek advice from a flat water bandit!


sorry to hear your pain h20fly hope you get a swift recovery - nice new alias btw!




umm the kite didnt catch him is what spacemonkey means. If u land with the kite near the bottom of the loop you will land getting yanked forwards and more likely to hurt yourself. In a properly exacuted kiteloop u will just land like a rock from up high and if your not retarded land on your ass or hip. Go bigger, pull it earlier.

the only way u get hurt in a kiteloop is by not committing enough.

sorry to here u get injured, but its the price you pay when you swing above your weight. You do seem very accident prone.

I had a tiny lateral mensicus tear, constant pounding from kiting really agrivated it and decided to go under the knife, snip snip back on the water in 3 weeks. Best thing i did was sell my underground flx, everytime i get back on a flx i get knee pain. The meniscus tear wont hold u back getting on the water but seriously wait till your ligaments are as good as gold!

One other tip, if your going to do rehab dont go to hard in the gym then go kiting. I made that mistake the other day, ended up with a minor subluxation of my shoulder after having a big shoulder work (recovering from labrum tear) out and not fully recovering.


ow dude

unfortunatly thats a bit hard considering im a personal trainer but yeh no 300kg leg press for me for a while :)
why have you found the flx bad on knees?
h20fly
h20fly
WA
384 posts
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1 Dec 2007 12:44am
Spacemonkey! said...

Meh I saw the loop, it was 2m off the water, looped real late. The reason you hurt yourself is because you hesitated and looped it real late and slow. Still don't know your limits.



dude i dont really understand your problem with me but im not going to slander on the internet but definatly wanna chat to you next time i see you at woodies

peace

ben
Spacemonkey!
Spacemonkey!
SA
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1 Dec 2007 2:41am
Don't have a problem but you seem to be very accident prone as carbine said, and your attitude is quite full on. Probably didn't help kiting for another 30 mins after you hurt yourself.

Maybe I'm just being a ****, don't really have a legit reason. Probably cause I had a crap session today.
kitecrazzzy
kitecrazzzy
WA
2184 posts
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1 Dec 2007 1:55am
ha, if your going to injure yourself+claim it on seabreeze you got to expect some **** to come back at ya and yes if your landing with the kite still looping your asking for trouble
teknofreak
teknofreak
QLD
30 posts
QLD, 30 posts
1 Dec 2007 6:54am
man i did my acl and tore my miniscus and i had a reconstrution it took me 6 months to fully recover your dreaming if u think only 8 weeks sorry dude best advice have the surgery you wont regret it in the long run
h20fly
h20fly
WA
384 posts
WA, 384 posts
1 Dec 2007 2:19pm
Spacemonkey! said...

Don't have a problem but you seem to be very accident prone as carbine said, and your attitude is quite full on. Probably didn't help kiting for another 30 mins after you hurt yourself.

Maybe I'm just being a ****, don't really have a legit reason. Probably cause I had a crap session today.



yeh i was trying to go with the theory of walk it off... in hindsight probably not the best thing just didnt want to admit i hurt myself.
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