09 cabrinha pulley failures

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wylee
wylee
QLD
31 posts
QLD, 31 posts
1 Mar 2009 6:53pm
just a note to warn any one with an 09 cabrinha switchblade... i have had two pulley failures ( separate times) and in mid flight too... at least 3 more of us on the same beach have had the same problem... the rivet acting as the axle has been made from a bad batch of material...
would be a good safety thing to give ya pulleys a good going over and check them cos it bloody hurts being dumped from 5 m with the kite in a wild loop..
if any one has had this issue i would be interested to hear about it..
tobes
tobes
NSW
1000 posts
NSW, 1000 posts
1 Mar 2009 8:09pm
I've seen one go.
Bloody pulleys.
waxman
waxman
SA
1390 posts
SA, 1390 posts
1 Mar 2009 7:53pm
Cabrinah say the pully failures are due to there not being enougth on the kite next year they are aiming to have over 50 lol. maby look at replacing all the pullys with good quality ones but this would end up costing more than the kite is worth. just sell them and buy a real kite.
airsail
airsail
QLD
1604 posts
QLD, 1604 posts
1 Mar 2009 7:23pm
Check these new pulleys from ronstan, they are tied through the axle of the pulley so even if the pulley fails no death spirals. At AUD$20 each I doubt we will see them as a standard feature but a nice upgrade. Don't know how the ball bearing will handle the sand.

www.ronstan.com/marine/range.asp?RnID=348
brode93
brode93
NSW
82 posts
NSW, 82 posts
1 Mar 2009 8:39pm
mine totally snaped last week had been kiting came in to change boards went to take off again then i seen the back line drop to ground?wtf had a look at pulleys and yes the link between the two had gone/snaped ? checked the other ones and they were near seized with dryed salt also, only had a bit of wd in the ute but it worked
i blame myself for not checking or washing them this was an 08 cab the kite turned
better after clean up so it must of been blocking up with salt for a long time .
as i said my fault no enough maintenance on pulleys so check them.
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toppleover
toppleover
QLD
2070 posts
QLD, 2070 posts
1 Mar 2009 8:03pm
So is this a warranty issue or just wear n tear
Lots of pulleys to check
brode93
brode93
NSW
82 posts
NSW, 82 posts
1 Mar 2009 9:50pm
i think wear&tear for me & more checking of pulleys + had never checked them before on my 12m when i checked my 9m same thing was happening freed them too i dont think wd is the best to use long term sand seems to stick to it mybe a silican spray?all good for now for the amount i kite which is a lot i put it down to wear & tear & no maintance so check the link where the two pulleys link together to see if it is seizeing up if so free them up. i had been out in 5footers going out about 1/2 k runs glad it happened on the beach when changing boards didnt know till relaunch time, was thinking about down winder at the time 14 kms of beach and i do this a lot so was lucky it went when it did.

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hydra
hydra
SA
254 posts
SA, 254 posts
1 Mar 2009 9:35pm
ah, problems with pullys starting to arise,
whats the ferkin deal with pullys anyway. kites without pullys seem to have a better feel and some have more de-power, wtf
Coose
Coose
VIC
229 posts
VIC, 229 posts
1 Mar 2009 10:12pm
yeap problems with the pulleys hopefully they have sussed this problem out with the spare pulleys.
airush geoff
airush geoff
974 posts
974 posts
1 Mar 2009 8:52pm
I am a bigger guy and am sure I put alot of strain on my kit- had the sb3 all last year and no problems, all is good with the ids too..... we all need to maintain our kit - wash stuff out and take good care of it. Gear failure is not fun, my harness has snapped twice recently but I don't think it is a problem with the harness.....

Each to their own - I like what I ride and will continue to ride it.....fair enough on the informative post but those who jump in and slag off the brand, well it isn't necessary.
wylee
wylee
QLD
31 posts
QLD, 31 posts
1 Mar 2009 10:14pm
i have been making my own replacements... being an engineer.. so cost is next to nothing even though i am using top quality materials...
NSW, 4382 posts
1 Mar 2009 11:44pm
If it happens on an 09 IDS kite, then the IDS safety will work to stop the kite from looping.
On earlier kites its a wear and tear issue, but they were also quite different pulleys and I don't know of any failures like the 09 ones.
Return the kite to the place of purchase and your cabrinha dealer will replace the pulleys for free with replacements from Cabrinha.
Only a small number of kite seem to be affected, looks like a bad batch thing.

Those Ronstan pulleys look like a great idea, the pulley wheel can be retained even if the axle breaks.

Cya and

Goodwinds

Steve
brode93
brode93
NSW
82 posts
NSW, 82 posts
2 Mar 2009 1:18am
i like what i ride too air rush geoff not slagging the brand just trying say check your pulleys on any brand and would buy another cab when the time comes
KiteDevil
KiteDevil
TAS
778 posts
TAS, 778 posts
2 Mar 2009 8:33am
Pulleys suck. Buy kites without pulleys. Simple.
GalahOnTheBay
GalahOnTheBay
NSW
4188 posts
NSW, 4188 posts
2 Mar 2009 2:33pm
KiteDevil said...

Pulleys suck. Buy kites without pulleys. Simple.


Amen brother.

Anyone got a pic of the pulleys that are failing so I can check out my gear?
pfr
pfr
NSW
156 posts
pfr pfr
NSW, 156 posts
2 Mar 2009 6:38pm
Are the pully's on the ids the same as the ones on the sb2? I checked mine the other day and they were working nicely with no blockages. I have the 10m sb2 which has ronston pully's and for a 3yr old kite it's pretty good that I haven't had to change anything major yet. The only thing i've changed was one of the bridles for piece of mind, it still had some life in it though. that only cost $8 to replace

bennie
bennie
ACT
1258 posts
ACT, 1258 posts
2 Mar 2009 7:43pm
what is the best method of prolonging a pulleys life? is it just to wash them in fresh water occasionally, or is there somthing you can spray on them to keep them working and in good condition?
lotofwind
lotofwind
NSW
6451 posts
NSW, 6451 posts
2 Mar 2009 8:08pm
silicon spray????
NSW, 4382 posts
2 Mar 2009 10:51pm
pfr said...

Are the pully's on the ids the same as the ones on the sb2? I checked mine the other day and they were working nicely with no blockages. I have the 10m sb2 which has ronston pully's and for a 3yr old kite it's pretty good that I haven't had to change anything major yet. The only thing i've changed was one of the bridles for piece of mind, it still had some life in it though. that only cost $8 to replace




They are different, IDS pulleys are a better design let down by typical dodgy Chinese recycled stainless steel.
Got replacements today for anyone that needs them.

Cya and

Goodwinds

Steve

brode93
brode93
NSW
82 posts
NSW, 82 posts
2 Mar 2009 11:07pm
CRC brand 808 silicone spray ,clear ,thin,durable ,odourless film that lubs,waterproofs and protects ideal for plastics, metals vinyls fibreglass etc this is whats written on side of the can .
a moto rider gave me can of it and have been using it on my pump every now and then also sprayguns at work, seems to work ok.
rfw
bennie
bennie
ACT
1258 posts
ACT, 1258 posts
3 Mar 2009 12:29am
brode93 said...

CRC brand 808 silicone spray ,clear ,thin,durable ,odourless film that lubs,waterproofs and protects ideal for plastics, metals vinyls fibreglass etc this is whats written on side of the can .
a moto rider gave me can of it and have been using it on my pump every now and then also sprayguns at work, seems to work ok.
rfw


Wher can I pick a can of this up at?
GalahOnTheBay
GalahOnTheBay
NSW
4188 posts
NSW, 4188 posts
3 Mar 2009 10:43am
Whitworths has it (or something similar) for $11

www.whitworths.com.au/

While you are at it spray your lines where they rub together when twisted to stop them wearing too
bennie
bennie
ACT
1258 posts
ACT, 1258 posts
3 Mar 2009 12:12pm
GalahOnTheBay said...

Whitworths has it (or something similar) for $11

www.whitworths.com.au/

While you are at it spray your lines where they rub together when twisted to stop them wearing too


thanks mate

from website
Key Benefits & Features:

This silicone based lubricant has excellent anti-friction properties. As well as assisting the smooth operation of moving parts, it protects hardware against the elements. Great for blocks, slides, travellers, cam cleats, pole ends, boat ropes, head foils etc. 100 gram pressure pack.

I guess this stuff should be good to spray on the bridle lines running through pullys too.
Pedro Sexton
Pedro Sexton
VIC
116 posts
VIC, 116 posts
6 Mar 2009 10:25am
Wylee or anyone else who has expereinced this problem,

Have you solved this problem? Is so how? did you replace all the pulleys or just the steering line pulleys (two) as i would assume they cop the most force?

I have not checked thoroughly but some of the pulleys seem to be sewn in. This makes it a pain in the but to fix easily.


Cheers
bennie
bennie
ACT
1258 posts
ACT, 1258 posts
6 Mar 2009 1:18pm
Just sprayed my pulleys with ronstan silicon spray. They are feeling like new again. This stuff is magic. I am not sure how often I should use it though, I am thinking maybe after 10-15 sessions
NSW, 4382 posts
6 Mar 2009 3:02pm
Pedro Sexton said...

Wylee or anyone else who has expereinced this problem,

Have you solved this problem? Is so how? did you replace all the pulleys or just the steering line pulleys (two) as i would assume they cop the most force?

I have not checked thoroughly but some of the pulleys seem to be sewn in. This makes it a pain in the but to fix easily.


Cheers



All of the pulleys on the cabrinha kites are easy to replace.
You are right its the front 2 pulleys that do the most work and move furthest along their respective bridle lines, and they are super easy to replace as is each of the bridle lines.

Cya and

Goodwinds

Steve
GalahOnTheBay
GalahOnTheBay
NSW
4188 posts
NSW, 4188 posts
6 Mar 2009 3:08pm
Spray everything about every 3-6 months (depending on use). Flying lines, bridles with pulleys, pulleys, chicken loops etc.

Pro tip - don't spray your bar as it makes it a bit tricky to hang on to later...
Pedro Sexton
Pedro Sexton
VIC
116 posts
VIC, 116 posts
6 Mar 2009 6:16pm
Kitepower Australia said...

Pedro Sexton said...

Wylee or anyone else who has expereinced this problem,

Have you solved this problem? Is so how? did you replace all the pulleys or just the steering line pulleys (two) as i would assume they cop the most force?

I have not checked thoroughly but some of the pulleys seem to be sewn in. This makes it a pain in the but to fix easily.


Cheers



All of the pulleys on the cabrinha kites are easy to replace.
You are right its the front 2 pulleys that do the most work and move furthest along their respective bridle lines, and they are super easy to replace as is each of the bridle lines.

Cya and

Goodwinds

Steve



Cheers for the response Steve do you have to buy the pulleys with 12cm sewn in lines attached as on the Cab website (spare parts section). If you have these let me know as i will buy a pair off you. (i rang Goshen and he has not got any in stock)
NSW, 4382 posts
6 Mar 2009 6:42pm
Yes, we only got them earlier this week in bulk, we did have them in stock as a single pulley spare part, but now they come in a colour coded 2 pack.
I will let Goshen know to order some from us.


Cya and

Goodwinds

Steve
Jimmy Blunt
Jimmy Blunt
NSW
39 posts
NSW, 39 posts
9 Mar 2009 9:38pm
Are the pulleys replaced for free with replacements from Cabrinha even if they are still ok or just in case they are already broken?
NSW, 4382 posts
10 Mar 2009 2:03pm
Jimmy Blunt said...

Are the pulleys replaced for free with replacements from Cabrinha even if they are still ok or just in case they are already broken?


If a pulley breaks it will be replaced at no charge. The breakage issue is only affecting a small number of kites, if you have any concerns contact your Cabrinha dealer.

Cya and

Goodwinds

Steve

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