launching from a boat

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grogamanda
grogamanda
VIC
53 posts
VIC, 53 posts
7 Jun 2009 10:02am
Anyone got any techniques for launching from a boat?

Got a catamaran for 5 days in whitsundays and just wondering if I will need to moor the boat or buy a kite lobster and water launch.

Havent been able to find any guides on boat launching tho....

any help much obliged


Grog
hangtime
hangtime
NSW
397 posts
NSW, 397 posts
7 Jun 2009 10:44am
Good tip is to anchor from the stern so that the large trampoline area at the front of a cat is the 'downwind' part of the boat, set up kite on the tramp, If youre clever you'll have wound your lines up in a way thats easy to unwind the last time you packed up, (a small piece of plywood with 5 small screws in it helps here).
Attatch lines, Throw kite over front of cat, It will blow downwind and then just do a normal water launch, if you're skillfull enough you can stand on your board on the tramp after you've got your kite up and launch from there, This method is not without hazards but ive done it many times on my cat and it works for me when there is no other options, Impress youre friends by trying to land where you launched from , Go on its only a charter cat and a few dings wont be noticed?, The most important thing to remember is to anchor from the stern! There's too much stuff at the back of the boat to tangle up with...... Boom, davits, bbq, Targa, etc etc, a down winder from Whitehaven to hook passage was a highlight the last time i was in the Whitsundays, (only possible with a boat) good luck!!
dave......
dave......
WA
2119 posts
WA, 2119 posts
7 Jun 2009 3:45pm
1) set up kite on beach as normal.(preferrably downwind set up)
2) get a bucket and put it next to your bar.
3) put your lines into the bucket carefully and when you get to the end, deflate your kite.
4)deflate your kite and carefully fold.
5) pump your kite up over the boat and let go. pay attention that the lines run out of the bucket smoothy and presto......
lotofwind
lotofwind
NSW
6451 posts
NSW, 6451 posts
7 Jun 2009 5:51pm
and if your lines get tangled comming out of the bucket you can put it on ya noggen as a helmet ready for the death loopsLOL.

When launching at a spot with no room on land to launch I do pretty much the same thing.
1) Pump kite and attach lines
2) connect chicken loop to harness
3) walk towards kite picking up your lines CAREFULLY in big loops.
4) get out in the water,let your kite blow down wind letting your lines out without tangles.
5) normal water re-launch.

There is sometimes that frantic panic as your lines get a tangle as your kites drifting away.But most times all good.
dave......
dave......
WA
2119 posts
WA, 2119 posts
7 Jun 2009 4:11pm
Sorry lotofwind,
your method is far superior as I can see....

lotofwind
lotofwind
NSW
6451 posts
NSW, 6451 posts
7 Jun 2009 6:35pm
dave...... said...

Sorry lotofwind,
your method is far superior as I can see....



Nice one dave
LOL,I knew I should have deleted that pic.

That mess was from an unrelated fluck up in the waves.Honest

The method I use was on land where there is room to lay out everything easily before getting in the water.The bucket would suit on a boat where room is limited and lots of things for your lines to get hooked on.And as a helmet
Nerk
Nerk
NSW
108 posts
NSW, 108 posts
7 Jun 2009 7:13pm
I've done a bit of research, and I think there are two main techniques.

The other guys have covered the 'let the kite drift downwind while feeding out the lines then water launch' technique. I guess you have to do this if you're the last one left in the boat, but if the lines tangle, you're a bit stuck with the kite downwind and potentially looping.

If you have someone left on the boat, you can...
- (hopefully on land) run out the lines and attach the lines to the kite
- wind the lines carefully and secure with rubber bands, place bar beside kite centre strut
- deflate kite and roll up normally with bar inside
- (or follow advice in previous replies)
When you're ready to go...
- have someone hold the kite
- you jump in the water with the bar, start swimming and unwinding lines
- When you are fully unwound, launch as normal.

This technique lets you check the lines and abort if there's a winding problem, but you would need a launching area where you won't catch on rigging.

I'm not saying this way is better - it just depends on circumstances - just trying to give you all the options.

Wish I had a cat!!


lotofwind
lotofwind
NSW
6451 posts
NSW, 6451 posts
7 Jun 2009 7:17pm
How about getting back on the boat?????
Would you go to saftey , wind up lines self rescue style?
prea
prea
QLD
184 posts
QLD, 184 posts
7 Jun 2009 7:46pm
If your at Whitehaven put all your kite gear into the tender and go to the beach and self launch from the beach
Launching from the cat without experienced kite buddies is not recommended speaking from experience. the tide can be quite strong. lots of coral too
safety first
rhinoman
rhinoman
QLD
362 posts
QLD, 362 posts
7 Jun 2009 10:22pm
rig up the kite on land ,wind up the lines on the bar about a wing span short of the kite ,deflate leading edge strut roll up the kite place bar on top of set up .get to were you want to kite place bar out in front of kite pump up leading edge ,leave kite on boat swim out to your launch angle undoing lines on the bar get the launch angle right and away you go ,, the bucket is a line tangle nightmare
BigAirPaul
BigAirPaul
QLD
140 posts
QLD, 140 posts
8 Jun 2009 11:12am
Best example of this I ever saw was in Fuerta Ventura...
The boys giving lessons did this... (and it's pretty much what Nerk said).
Inflate and rig the kite on the beach.
Deflate kite LE and wind lines on bar (you have to be consistent in your winding method).
Stick it all on a boat (including a pump - VERY important).
At the location...
One guy takes the lines and swims away from the boat while another pumps the kite.
Check lines.
Launch...
I don't recall them ever mis-rigging a kite.
The theory being that as you haven't disconnected anything, then any 'Tangles' must be solvable...
In my opinion, even with '100% Depower Kites', drifting a kite downwind seems to have just enough ingredients to be a recipe for disaster !!!
BAP
BigAirPaul
BigAirPaul
QLD
140 posts
QLD, 140 posts
8 Jun 2009 11:15am
Nerk said...


Wish I had a cat!!



I think they are commonly available at pet stores !!!
Rattlehead
Rattlehead
QLD
555 posts
QLD, 555 posts
8 Jun 2009 6:34pm
prea said...

If your at Whitehaven put all your kite gear into the tender and go to the beach and self launch from the beach
Launching from the cat without experienced kite buddies is not recommended speaking from experience. the tide can be quite strong. lots of coral too
safety first


Do this ,,,^^^^^^^

if any of your kite/lines end up in the cat rigging kiss your kite goodbye
Radman
Radman
WA
629 posts
WA, 629 posts
8 Jun 2009 8:51pm
rig kite on beach ,pack up carefully, feed lines from back of boat,slowly, the wind and drift will take lines out in a large loop .once all the way out place kite leading edge down and wet the kite as to add weight,then let the wind catch the out side wing tip and the kite will sail off to the window. no tangles wulla.... Leave a roap out the back so when your done you cansail up and grab hold. then tie off your chicken loop and let the kite sit and your free to get in the boat then pull th roap in and deploy 5th or 4th line safe.ty be prepard to throw your gear when it all goes pear.
TurtleHunter
TurtleHunter
WA
1675 posts
WA, 1675 posts
8 Jun 2009 9:13pm
When you wind your connected lines onto your bar, have the 5th line pulled short.
As it drifts behind the boat carefully unwind your lines(has worked so far).
Sle kites are easier as a front line leash will allow the kite to drift closer to the edge of the window(5th line can be painfull when dead down wind).
Sit on the transome and have nothing between you and the kite.
Give it time to come round to the edge as the boat will swing on the anchor towards the kite
Best case is launching off the boat without getting wet
The worst is only the tangle of a ditched kite (know your release works quick).
It is alway's the short straw
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