bad news for all you Best users.If you want the latest and greatest,you will have to pay MORE than anyone has EVER payed for a kite before !!

Plus,your yargas and nemies are now "obsolete" (Bests words,not mine!)

so for that new expensive kite are they going to sell them through shops and offer a propper service
or still sell them through the back door with no service at a retal level

These forums are like a bloody magazine, every second thread is an advert. what gives.

From Bests websight "Even though the laminate material used to create the Hellfish is ten times more expensive then polyester rip-stop and Dacron" I guess this means that the hellfish with bar / lines / pump / bag and everything you would usually expect to come with a new kite this day and age.... wil cost 10 times as much as the Yarga / Nemi More of the best "It is the lightest, best performing and most aerodynamically efficient LEI kite ever produced"
And at $1550 for the smallest size you could buy.... id project that a 16meter would be around the $2000 plus mark? so that's almost four thousand for two measly kites... i don't know what drugs the PR guys are smoking but I think the "Reality" is that it should be claimed as Bests' best ever , most expensive kite on earth to date :)

the crossbow is a bridled LEI no? with near 100% depower and flat arc like WW rapture? and whatever happened to the takoon nova - did it ever hit production?

IMO the most interesting developments have been the massive depowerability of WW and RRD kites. so if the hellfish lives up to the incessant hype, could the next step be to add clever depower features to a kite with an already massive range? makes me wish i was a kite designer.

now if only someone could invent an LEI that doesnt need bladders

go to any neilpryde windsurf /cabrinha shop & speak to the guys who went to their conference in maui a month ago
also they have the new seasons carbrinha catolgue available look in there
or go to www.neilprydemauui.com or www.carbinhakites.com
there are about to let the cat out of the bag
Mr Dan Chopper if you want to get biggggggggg air this is for you
and priced at agood price

enjoy

you ordered 2 crossbows ,when do you get them

The crossbow wont get to Aus til about late Aug Sept. I cant wait.

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Originally posted by malcthom

No doubt that cuben fibre is a good laminate; lightweight and very low stretch. Problem is with this increased longevity do you want to be riding 2005/6 technology in 06/07 or even 07/08? With the current rate of development, longevity in a kite is good for resale and that is all. Unfortunately the irony is that there is almost no second hand market (in WA anyway) due to cheap new kites killing it!

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G'day Malcthom

One of the tings that always bugged me with high performance sport kites (stunt kites), was that they lost their new feel fairly quickly.
The reason was the sails stretched.
Cuben Fibre kites should retain their new crisp feel for pretty much the life of the kite. The other benefit about Cuben Fibre and its low stretch properties is that the kite has a crisp responsiveness that is markedly different to other polyester kites.
It does not make polyester kites obsolete, but if you really like crisp, responsive handling, that will last the life of the kite, then something made from Cuben Fibre will be more fun to fly now and worth more and sought after more once you want to sell it.

There is a strong used market right across Australia, I know from the sales made from our website and through our shops, but you have to be realistic about the value of your used kite. Everyone knows polyester kites only last a few years at best, so it is normal to have to sell at around half or less price when the kite is more than 1 year old and well used.
Pre 2002 kites are very hard to sell, almost at any price. Certain models of 2002 - 2005 kites are also hard to sell because they are known to have issues.
More expensive kites do retain their value better than others.
Kites that are havily marketed via the team rider/sales rep program used by several brands have a much lower than retail, resale value because most people at your local spot know what team riders/sales reps pay for their kites.
Many of the top brands of kite have been retailing online from overseas websites at prices that shops buy them for, so the price for them used is well under half the Oz retail, usually around 1/3 or less actually.

There are too many brands and too much disorderly marketing happening, but the bright side is that new kites cost less and if you are prepared to buy slightly out of date, you can score some incredible bargains on new 04 kites.

Cya and

Goodwinds

Steve McCormack