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18 Oct 2026 8:44am
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jeroentvb said..
Hi all. Missed the announcement of the sfv2, so I recently got a sf830 (second hand). Until then I was using a ma1050 with s210 stab.

I got the sf830 because the ma1050 lacks glide and pump when trying to surf the lake wind bumps on the big lakes in the Netherlands. Tried it with my s210 stab, which worked but it felt really slow. Felt like my wing had plenty of power to go faster, but the foil didn't want to. While that doesn't matter much for surfing the bumps, I also like to throw in a jump here and there, for which I want a bit more speed.

So I'm looking for a new/better stabilizer to unlock more speed and a looser feeling because the sf830 + s210 feels more stable than the ma1050 with the same stabilizer. But I'm overwhelmed by the options. My current shortlist is s185, s178, s145 or the s142.

The conditions I will be using this foil combo in will be around 20 knots with up to 1m lake wind bumps. If the wind gets to about 24-25 knots I switch to windsurfing. Any less than 16 knots or flat water I switch back to the ma1050 + s210 combo.

Not sure if it matters: I'm 56kg without wetsuit. Use a north seek 68L and usually a 3m wing.

Curious to hear your thoughts on stabilizer recommendations!







Just to follow up on the stabilizer/SF890 discussion — I haven’t ridden the 890 myself, but I have spent some time on the SF1080, and that’s a pretty slow wing. If I remember correctly, with the S210 stab I could only get around 25–26 km/h out of it. With the same stab and the MA1050v2 I was getting about 33 km/h.

What’s interesting is that with the MA850v2 + S178, I’ve only managed around 36 km/h so far.

So I’m wondering if the stabilizer might not be the main issue here. It could simply be that the SF890 itself isn’t a particularly fast wing. My guess would be that it’s a few km/h slower than the MA850v2, which could put it roughly in the same speed range as the MA1050v2.






The SF680 and SF530 are faster, anything larger and they don't have great top end. However they go slow really really well and can carve for days, they are surf focused foils after all. The UHM masts give you a few more kmhs and I would size down the stabs. I use the S145 and S122 in all conditions. The older stabs are just too big imo. When I put the SF690 on I do have the mast moved forward in the box, it does not push back as much as the larger foils when on larger waves - which makes it so sweet for the fast windy stuff.





Completely agree on the stabilisers. Once I had the sf680 and s122 I rarely rode anything else in swell. I sometimes feel the prevalence of large legacy stabs in the north range has skewed people's thinking, I had to beg, cajole and threaten a number of my north riding friends to try anything sub-200cm2!




I am looking for experience with S125 and SF830. After riding the dw830, c650, uhm85 and S142 for some time I am using the SF830 again on same setup. I am going to Jericoacoara and first thought is to bring both wings, but then i read so much of the SF680. Shall i sit on the fence and wait for sfv2, buy the s125 now and combine with sf830 and buy sfv2 later or find a sf680 on sale. I have good experience with going down in stab size. S125 sounds tiny compared to sf830 and it is not a recommended combo from North. On the other hand i think North want to keep the adviced combos tite.





Kusot said..


screwball said..



UisceBeatha said..




Saxo said..





jeroentvb said..
Hi all. Missed the announcement of the sfv2, so I recently got a sf830 (second hand). Until then I was using a ma1050 with s210 stab.

I got the sf830 because the ma1050 lacks glide and pump when trying to surf the lake wind bumps on the big lakes in the Netherlands. Tried it with my s210 stab, which worked but it felt really slow. Felt like my wing had plenty of power to go faster, but the foil didn't want to. While that doesn't matter much for surfing the bumps, I also like to throw in a jump here and there, for which I want a bit more speed.

So I'm looking for a new/better stabilizer to unlock more speed and a looser feeling because the sf830 + s210 feels more stable than the ma1050 with the same stabilizer. But I'm overwhelmed by the options. My current shortlist is s185, s178, s145 or the s142.

The conditions I will be using this foil combo in will be around 20 knots with up to 1m lake wind bumps. If the wind gets to about 24-25 knots I switch to windsurfing. Any less than 16 knots or flat water I switch back to the ma1050 + s210 combo.

Not sure if it matters: I'm 56kg without wetsuit. Use a north seek 68L and usually a 3m wing.

Curious to hear your thoughts on stabilizer recommendations!







Just to follow up on the stabilizer/SF890 discussion — I haven’t ridden the 890 myself, but I have spent some time on the SF1080, and that’s a pretty slow wing. If I remember correctly, with the S210 stab I could only get around 25–26 km/h out of it. With the same stab and the MA1050v2 I was getting about 33 km/h.

What’s interesting is that with the MA850v2 + S178, I’ve only managed around 36 km/h so far.

So I’m wondering if the stabilizer might not be the main issue here. It could simply be that the SF890 itself isn’t a particularly fast wing. My guess would be that it’s a few km/h slower than the MA850v2, which could put it roughly in the same speed range as the MA1050v2.






The SF680 and SF530 are faster, anything larger and they don't have great top end. However they go slow really really well and can carve for days, they are surf focused foils after all. The UHM masts give you a few more kmhs and I would size down the stabs. I use the S145 and S122 in all conditions. The older stabs are just too big imo. When I put the SF690 on I do have the mast moved forward in the box, it does not push back as much as the larger foils when on larger waves - which makes it so sweet for the fast windy stuff.





Completely agree on the stabilisers. Once I had the sf680 and s122 I rarely rode anything else in swell. I sometimes feel the prevalence of large legacy stabs in the north range has skewed people's thinking, I had to beg, cajole and threaten a number of my north riding friends to try anything sub-200cm2!




I am looking for experience with S125 and SF830. After riding the dw830, c650, uhm85 and S142 for some time I am using the SF830 again on same setup. I am going to Jericoacoara and first thought is to bring both wings, but then i read so much of the SF680. Shall i sit on the fence and wait for sfv2, buy the s125 now and combine with sf830 and buy sfv2 later or find a sf680 on sale. I have good experience with going down in stab size. S125 sounds tiny compared to sf830 and it is not a recommended combo from North. On the other hand i think North want to keep the adviced combos tite.



The Surf125V3 just showed up. Let ya know as soon as I get a spin on the water w my SF680.




Felt looser but not necessarily faster than the S145. I’m 75 kg, I needed to be a little gentler on the pumps. I think w a smaller foil than the 680 or lighter guy it’s a good call.
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17 Oct 2026 8:35am
UisceBeatha said..

ganeshka said..
Hey guys, could you please suggest for parawing foil set. I got quiver of Frigate v1. Miami and only wind driven swells. I have SF980 but this is my light wind wing now. Usually with a wings I'm using HA500, MA500v2. I had for some time DW900, but I sold it. I really liked DW900 in terms of speed and glide. I'm was thinking about DW690, SF680, SF530 ??

I would appreciate you can share more about SF530 especially, the shape looks different form the rest of the sizes, does it feel faster ? does it glide better ? can this be all arounder for parawing ?



Presuming you mean you have the SF930 for light wind wind. I started parawing back in April with SF930/C70/145V2 and it was and is a great setup. Para is challenging and once I got the hang of it I could pump this foil and connect bumps easy. Its low end is insane for getting going. I would recommend using that until you are over the learning hump. When stashed the foil feels smaller, the amount of stability you get from a flagged wing is crazy, whole different story with a stashed para!

I recently got a second hand DW820 and am still getting used to it so winged with it a few times. Its low end for starting is higher than the SF930 and due to the high aspect you can't just pump it out of the water. For glide in bumps though it is class and where some bumps would outrun the SF930, the DW foil just sucks into the energy. Would I start para with it, not sure, SF930 better for getting there imo. I need a couple of para sessions on it though to really make up my mind - just waiting on wind.

I have not parawinged yet with the SF680 - winter is coming though and its only a matter of time and conditions. When learning para you spend a lot of time dicking around with tangles, restarts. etc, you want a foil that makes getting going again easy otherwise its just a major ball ache. The 680 will need some juice, can't wait :-)











I’ve parawinged w my SF680 quite a bit. Actually enjoy the SF830 and SF680 more than my downwind foil. Great for transitions.
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10 Oct 2026 12:50am
Kusot said..

screwball said..


UisceBeatha said..



Saxo said..




jeroentvb said..
Hi all. Missed the announcement of the sfv2, so I recently got a sf830 (second hand). Until then I was using a ma1050 with s210 stab.

I got the sf830 because the ma1050 lacks glide and pump when trying to surf the lake wind bumps on the big lakes in the Netherlands. Tried it with my s210 stab, which worked but it felt really slow. Felt like my wing had plenty of power to go faster, but the foil didn't want to. While that doesn't matter much for surfing the bumps, I also like to throw in a jump here and there, for which I want a bit more speed.

So I'm looking for a new/better stabilizer to unlock more speed and a looser feeling because the sf830 + s210 feels more stable than the ma1050 with the same stabilizer. But I'm overwhelmed by the options. My current shortlist is s185, s178, s145 or the s142.

The conditions I will be using this foil combo in will be around 20 knots with up to 1m lake wind bumps. If the wind gets to about 24-25 knots I switch to windsurfing. Any less than 16 knots or flat water I switch back to the ma1050 + s210 combo.

Not sure if it matters: I'm 56kg without wetsuit. Use a north seek 68L and usually a 3m wing.

Curious to hear your thoughts on stabilizer recommendations!






Just to follow up on the stabilizer/SF890 discussion — I haven’t ridden the 890 myself, but I have spent some time on the SF1080, and that’s a pretty slow wing. If I remember correctly, with the S210 stab I could only get around 25–26 km/h out of it. With the same stab and the MA1050v2 I was getting about 33 km/h.

What’s interesting is that with the MA850v2 + S178, I’ve only managed around 36 km/h so far.

So I’m wondering if the stabilizer might not be the main issue here. It could simply be that the SF890 itself isn’t a particularly fast wing. My guess would be that it’s a few km/h slower than the MA850v2, which could put it roughly in the same speed range as the MA1050v2.





The SF680 and SF530 are faster, anything larger and they don't have great top end. However they go slow really really well and can carve for days, they are surf focused foils after all. The UHM masts give you a few more kmhs and I would size down the stabs. I use the S145 and S122 in all conditions. The older stabs are just too big imo. When I put the SF690 on I do have the mast moved forward in the box, it does not push back as much as the larger foils when on larger waves - which makes it so sweet for the fast windy stuff.




Completely agree on the stabilisers. Once I had the sf680 and s122 I rarely rode anything else in swell. I sometimes feel the prevalence of large legacy stabs in the north range has skewed people's thinking, I had to beg, cajole and threaten a number of my north riding friends to try anything sub-200cm2!



I am looking for experience with S125 and SF830. After riding the dw830, c650, uhm85 and S142 for some time I am using the SF830 again on same setup. I am going to Jericoacoara and first thought is to bring both wings, but then i read so much of the SF680. Shall i sit on the fence and wait for sfv2, buy the s125 now and combine with sf830 and buy sfv2 later or find a sf680 on sale. I have good experience with going down in stab size. S125 sounds tiny compared to sf830 and it is not a recommended combo from North. On the other hand i think North want to keep the adviced combos tite.



Kusot said..

screwball said..


UisceBeatha said..



Saxo said..




jeroentvb said..
Hi all. Missed the announcement of the sfv2, so I recently got a sf830 (second hand). Until then I was using a ma1050 with s210 stab.

I got the sf830 because the ma1050 lacks glide and pump when trying to surf the lake wind bumps on the big lakes in the Netherlands. Tried it with my s210 stab, which worked but it felt really slow. Felt like my wing had plenty of power to go faster, but the foil didn't want to. While that doesn't matter much for surfing the bumps, I also like to throw in a jump here and there, for which I want a bit more speed.

So I'm looking for a new/better stabilizer to unlock more speed and a looser feeling because the sf830 + s210 feels more stable than the ma1050 with the same stabilizer. But I'm overwhelmed by the options. My current shortlist is s185, s178, s145 or the s142.

The conditions I will be using this foil combo in will be around 20 knots with up to 1m lake wind bumps. If the wind gets to about 24-25 knots I switch to windsurfing. Any less than 16 knots or flat water I switch back to the ma1050 + s210 combo.

Not sure if it matters: I'm 56kg without wetsuit. Use a north seek 68L and usually a 3m wing.

Curious to hear your thoughts on stabilizer recommendations!






Just to follow up on the stabilizer/SF890 discussion — I haven’t ridden the 890 myself, but I have spent some time on the SF1080, and that’s a pretty slow wing. If I remember correctly, with the S210 stab I could only get around 25–26 km/h out of it. With the same stab and the MA1050v2 I was getting about 33 km/h.

What’s interesting is that with the MA850v2 + S178, I’ve only managed around 36 km/h so far.

So I’m wondering if the stabilizer might not be the main issue here. It could simply be that the SF890 itself isn’t a particularly fast wing. My guess would be that it’s a few km/h slower than the MA850v2, which could put it roughly in the same speed range as the MA1050v2.





The SF680 and SF530 are faster, anything larger and they don't have great top end. However they go slow really really well and can carve for days, they are surf focused foils after all. The UHM masts give you a few more kmhs and I would size down the stabs. I use the S145 and S122 in all conditions. The older stabs are just too big imo. When I put the SF690 on I do have the mast moved forward in the box, it does not push back as much as the larger foils when on larger waves - which makes it so sweet for the fast windy stuff.




Completely agree on the stabilisers. Once I had the sf680 and s122 I rarely rode anything else in swell. I sometimes feel the prevalence of large legacy stabs in the north range has skewed people's thinking, I had to beg, cajole and threaten a number of my north riding friends to try anything sub-200cm2!



I am looking for experience with S125 and SF830. After riding the dw830, c650, uhm85 and S142 for some time I am using the SF830 again on same setup. I am going to Jericoacoara and first thought is to bring both wings, but then i read so much of the SF680. Shall i sit on the fence and wait for sfv2, buy the s125 now and combine with sf830 and buy sfv2 later or find a sf680 on sale. I have good experience with going down in stab size. S125 sounds tiny compared to sf830 and it is not a recommended combo from North. On the other hand i think North want to keep the adviced combos tite.


The Surf125V3 just showed up. Let ya know as soon as I get a spin on the water w my SF680.


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7 Oct 2026 4:25am
BWalnut said..
I’d like to try the rampage but it’s on the east coast tour right now.

I asked Brodie at the beach and he said he only rides the rampage now.


That’s interesting…..
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6 Oct 2026 5:16am


I did read this and it was one of the reasons the hook is almost set. I’d like to hear from some others w some ocean and surf time.
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6 Oct 2026 3:09am
Anybody out there have some real world impressions of the Hydrocraft Helix or Rampage foils? I’ve watched the videos and gleaned some from the Progression forum.
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30 Sep 2026 3:49am
jeroentvb said..
Hi all. Missed the announcement of the sfv2, so I recently got a sf830 (second hand). Until then I was using a ma1050 with s210 stab.

I got the sf830 because the ma1050 lacks glide and pump when trying to surf the lake wind bumps on the big lakes in the Netherlands. Tried it with my s210 stab, which worked but it felt really slow. Felt like my wing had plenty of power to go faster, but the foil didn't want to. While that doesn't matter much for surfing the bumps, I also like to throw in a jump here and there, for which I want a bit more speed.

So I'm looking for a new/better stabilizer to unlock more speed and a looser feeling because the sf830 + s210 feels more stable than the ma1050 with the same stabilizer. But I'm overwhelmed by the options. My current shortlist is s185, s178, s145 or the s142.

The conditions I will be using this foil combo in will be around 20 knots with up to 1m lake wind bumps. If the wind gets to about 24-25 knots I switch to windsurfing. Any less than 16 knots or flat water I switch back to the ma1050 + s210 combo.

Not sure if it matters: I'm 56kg without wetsuit. Use a north seek 68L and usually a 3m wing.

Curious to hear your thoughts on stabilizer recommendations!


S145 will noticeably bring your speed and fun factor w almost no loss in pitch stability. Same w the 142 which will glide better but lose just a pinch of ripping turns.
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22 Sep 2026 2:01am
UisceBeatha said..

Shlogger said..
I’ll be getting the 660/770SF. Hope they get moving faster on the Vapor. Not like there isn’t some very nice models out there they can demo (F4 Piranha, Foilcraft ect). Like a lot of peeps, I’ve gravitated towards wanting something fun to surf doing a DWer, rather than straight line speed and glide.



You see the specs anywhere other than what was on the video? I'm very interested in what that 770 is 😀

I haven’t.


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18 Sep 2026 10:13pm
I’ll be getting the 660/770SF. Hope they get moving faster on the Vapor. Not like there isn’t some very nice models out there they can demo (F4 Piranha, Foilcraft ect). Like a lot of peeps, I’ve gravitated towards wanting something fun to surf doing a DWer, rather than straight line speed and glide.