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SurferKris
SurferKris
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29 Aug 2026 8:27pm
Mr Milk said..
I checked. Rigged my old NP 5.4 Combat in the backyard and lined up a carpenters square by eye.
True, set in the middle of the cut out it deviates from perpendicular a few degrees, but it gets square at about 1/3 from the bottom.
There isn't much more than 20cm of vertical movement possible from there, so my maths is good to the financial modelling standard even if it doesn't pass engineering.


Proper math is always correct though. ;)
I've now taken a look at my Severne S1 (5.2) laid out flat on the ground, using two straight rulers and a digital angle measurement. My normal boom-height setting gives about 100 degrees between the upper side of the boom and the mast sleeve. Raising the boom about 5cm gives a reading of about 102 degrees. So if we assume that the written numbers (161 cm) are valid at 90 degrees, then following boom-lengths are needed:
@ 100 degrees: 161/cos(10)≈163.5 cm
@102 degrees: 161/cos(12)≈164.6 cm
SurferKris
SurferKris
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29 Aug 2026 8:19pm
I have some old booms with just a white line every 10cm, that is all that is needed, no need for detailed numbers.
A simple calculation (adding distance to the shortest length of the boom) and counting a few holes, will get you close enough. If needs to one can quite easily alter both outhaul and boom extension on the water.
SurferKris
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28 Aug 2026 7:41pm
Mr Milk said..
The idea that boom height makes a difference is attractive, but it doesn't stand up to maths.
Pythagoras theorem kills it. Say you have a small wave sail with 150cm outhaul and the boom perpendicular to the mast in the middle of the cutout.
Moving the boom up or down by 10cm changes the length to the clew by 0.3mm.
Even a 20cm deviation results in only 13mm change.
The change is relatively smaller as the boom gets longer. At 200cm a 20cm move on the mast is only 10mm at the clew


Sounds like there is something wrong with your maths....

Pythagoras theorem is only valid for a triangle which has one 90 degree angle. We never have that on a windsurfing rigg, we can possibly get fairly close to that at the lowest boom height (I haven't checked), but at boom-heights above that the angle is different and thus the boom needs to be set longer (the higher we set the boom) in order to pull at the outhaul with a similar force.

Small changes at around 90 degrees will indeed require only very small differences in the boom length, but go away a bit from 90 degrees and the difference is much larger. It is then more instructive to take a look at how much the sine function changes when we are 10 degrees or more away from 90 degrees.
SurferKris
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12 Jul 2026 5:59pm
I sail mostly at a fairly big lake and I don't think that is any single magic trick, but there are few things that helps:
- Choose a sailing spot where the wind is along the shore and has no islands in the way of the wind.
- Pick a rig that is about right for the average wind but that you can also handle in the strongest gusts.
- Always rigg with full downhaul (otherwise the sail will not handle well when you have a proper wind-strength).
- Use an adjustable outhaul, even on wave sails. You don't have to tune a wavesails as often as you would on a Formula sail, but it is were nice to be able to tune on the go rather than at the beach. On wave-booms I use the simpler strap adjustment on one side of the boom only, not the full-on race version (I only use that on race and Formula stuff).
- Pick a board that will carry the chosen sail size and still float you home if needed (for me it means about 78l or larger, depending on the sail size).
SurferKris
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9 Jul 2026 10:07pm
That looks mostly like bump and jump though, I cannot tell from that video if you are flying of the fin or not.
There are better videos about this, se for instance below (skip to e.g. around 17 minutes if you want to).

SurferKris
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8 Jul 2026 3:09am
You cannot tell much from using a wavesail. A proper race sail will have a more locked in feeling and provide more backfoot pressure etc. Everything moved well back is the way to, then raise the boom to reduce the mastfoot pressure etc. You will always need a high speed to fly of the fin, fairly flat water and a good enough fin etc. On a 95 liter board I don't think that you will fly off the fin until you are above at least 25knots, and then it only gets better from there, lean back and enjoy the ride!

Oh, and be careful with wingfoilers, you will sail much faster than them and they do need a fair bit of safety distance. More so than with other windsurfers, in my experience.
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SurferKris
SurferKris
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5 Jul 2026 10:33pm
Hard-soap works as a high spot indicator too, but that is more for the two sides and it is not usually needed for the two tapered ends.
Sometimes the black plastic of the fin-head is good enough as an indicator on its own. It gets matte/dull after sanding and then turns more shiny at high spots after a trial fitting in the board.
SurferKris
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5 Jul 2026 10:07pm
The outer diameters would very similar but the thread-pitch of an M5 is finer (0.8mm) than on the 10-24 (with 24 threads over 25.4 mm).

The FCS screws are also 10-24, but in general shorter in length compared to the Simmer ones. They work well as a simple test for comparing/check the thread pitch though.

SurferKris
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5 Jul 2026 5:20pm
It is an UNC screw, I have bought a set (20 pieces, 12 US $ in total) of 10-24, 3/4" long in stainless steel ones from AliExpress, works fine.