WindWaterSailAU said..branem said..
Can anyone provide direct comparisons between 777 PT Skin & Frigate 2. I currently have 3, 4 & 5.4 PT Skin and I am looking into replacing at least the two big ones with 4 & 5.5 Frigate V2. Could these two replace all three PT Skin sizes since f2 supposedly has very good high range? I find PT Skin quite erratic in high range with leading edge violently collapsing. It's definitely also a lack of my skill since I'm still learning so more user friendly PW would be appreciated. 90kg rider + gear, Axis Mini Dart 90lt, riding messy wind swell in Greece, from 14-35knots, very gusty in winter, less so in summer.
I don't have much experience with any other PW, but recently I tried friend's BRM S3 and it was so much more enjoyable and stable then PT Skins.
A bit heavier than you but ride a bigger board and now have around 30 sessions on a 3.5m and 4.5m V2 Frigate and prob 75 sessions on the PT skins.
The PT Skins are designed to be ridden harnessed in.
Took a while to get the hang of the 5.4m but rides nicely when harnessed in and the wing moves forward in the window - becomes a handful around 18 knts, replaced it with a 5.7m PRV2 which was better due to the shorter lines but only give a bit more low end.
3m PT Skin moved around alot without generating much power, at 25knts the water is usually messy and battled to get going without power - sold it to a 70kg rider who got on well with it, maybe only an issue for heavier riders.
PT Skins stash smaller than the Frigate.
You can def learn with the PT skins, they are a decent parawing but the V2 Frigate is awesome and will make life easier and are much more performant.
Specifically the upwind ability , shorter lines and fantastic top end. Never feel like I'm getting my arms ripped off with the Frigates.
Would suggest going up half a size on the Frigates as the range is massive and you can handle the power.
If you need to choose two then I reckon you would see most benefit from upgrading your 3m + 4m PT's to 3.5m + 4.5m Frigates (which would cover you from around 17 - 30 + knots)
Wingtips on the Frigate can catch in the bridle if not redeployed cleanly and stick to the water at times, but the 5.4m PT skin could also do that.
Thanks for that. Some solid information here. If I understand correctly you suggest I should replace 3&4 PT Skins with 3.5&4.5 F2, and keep 5.4 PTs? Interesting 🤔
The thing is that I currently use mainly 4&5.4 PW, occasionally also 3m. Same goes for hand wings, where I mainly used 4&5.5m and rarely 3m. Although it's great having small size backup for 30+ days.
