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Reply in Topic: Neil Pryde Wings

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14 Jul 2026 6:34am

Recently got the 2026 firefly in 5.0 and 3.5 m2. Used the 5m once and the 3.5 twice so far. Best sessions were on the 3.5 in winds gusting to 26 kts. I had plenty power to get going on a north sf830 paired with a 90l kt super k2. (rider 90kg 183cm)
Generally feels light in the hands, tacks and jibes easily and powered up it stays very controlled for a dacron wing.

Only downside i could find so far is the bag, it is very small. Compared to the north nova's i had previously, it takes a lot more effort to get the firefly packed away.

Reply in Topic: How good is the new North Sonar?

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19 Jun 2026 10:24pm

larsdegroot said..

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TooMuchEpoxy said..

highvolume said..
Tops!
thanks for the advice I’ll go for the sf1230..
cheers Chris

SMALLER. Get the 930, or maybe the 830. Until you get down to 680 it Doesnt really FEEL any smaller. It just trades lift for speed and speed gets you more lift so you come out even. I only wing my 930 if I go out and fail on my 680

The sf830 is great! I couldnt become friends with the MA850v2, but the sf is so easy to use and play around with! Also still a very good low end

Thats funny because i had the Exact opposite. I could not become friends with the SF680. That foil, when really powered up, had the tendency to just suddenly rise on the front foot. The 850v2 , i can push that one really hard to boost big jumps. Also i was not blown away by the win in glide compared to the 850v2. So i decided to stick with that one as an allrounder. Still my favorite foil untill today. I would like to try the ma700v2 someday...

82 kilo rider

Sounds like a totally different use case. Im not one for winging powered up, id rather go from gust to gust. Also not into jumping, more into wave riding or just turning circles on flat water.

For what i wanted the MA850v2 just had too high of a stall speed and felt very nervous at lower speed. This is where the sf range excells. Even now that im running the 650 instead of the 700 fuse the sf830 still feels very composed and controlled even though i can turn it on a whim.

Reply in Topic: North 5m Nova Pro bladder

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17 Jun 2026 12:23am

JonnoR said..
Hi there
I am just about to replace the bladder but unsure how to remove the main valve in the leading edge, and also the feed to the strut.
Any guidance much appreciated

If i recall correctly from an older nova (2023?) the main valve has a lip around it that attaches to the outer wall. As for the connecting tube, i believe there is a plastic cap you open up and then just pull the hose off a barbed fitting.

Just pay attention during the removal of the old bladder. Doesnt really matter if you damage it any further as you're replacing it anyway.

Reply in Topic: How good is the new North Sonar?

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17 Jun 2026 12:19am

TooMuchEpoxy said..

highvolume said..
Tops!
thanks for the advice I’ll go for the sf1230..
cheers Chris

The sf830 is great! I couldnt become friends with the MA850v2, but the sf is so easy to use and play around with! Also still a very good low end

Reply in Topic: Neil Pryde Wings

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8 Jun 2026 5:21pm

Zam said..

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Zam said..

tvesurf said..
Searched the internet but cant find any direct comparisons on the low end of the fly vs the firefly. Anyone that has experience with both and can say something about the low end of both wings?

i've got both the fly 3 pro and firefly pro. the feeling when you pump is quite different - the fly pro has more pull-and-go power, and more backhand pull for sure.

the way you pump both wings is not the same. the firefly needs more technique and finesse to generate the same power. but this is because the fly pro is exceptionally easy to pump and get going with.

i rented the non aluula fly once, and the feeling was about the same.

Thanks, that helps a lot already. Im wondering if this is still relevant for the 2026 range. According to NP the firefly is now the allrounder suitable for all levels and the fly iv now the 'performance' wing.
Im on the fence between the regular models (not the pro) and looking for something with good low end that creates good lift even when slightly underpowered.

I've held the 2026 Firefly pro (both my wings are 2025). the biggest difference is that they changed the positioning of the wings in the range. the 2026 Firefly Pro now no longer has aluula in the tips. So it's pure aerotex or whatever its called. This made the wing relatively heavier than last year's model. I can't tell you how the on-water feeling is different. To be completely honest, there isn't a massive difference in feeling between the Fly Pro and Firefly Pro (they feel very similar, but the Fly Pro goes upwind faster and higher, plus the differences I mentioned). But if they've stuck to the same design brief, the Fly should have better low end than the Firefly, which might appeal to your use case. If you're not sure about the 2026 ones, get the 2025 models on discount. They're very good wings, and my only gripe with them is that they aren't autopilot tacking wings like some of the other brands.

What I personally can't figure out is that in the GWA slalom races, one of the better French women's riders is using the Firefly Pro to race and not the Fly Pro, and it's been performing well compared with more premium competitor wings. Neil Pryde/JP have nobody of real note on the men's side.

The 2025's are unfortunately not an option at my local shop as the distributor doesnt have any stock in the sizes i want to get. As i'm usually just freeriding in light wind or riding in waves i think the firefly will best suit me. I found a review on a dutch website on the 2026 firefly stating that it has a strong low end and requires little pumping to get going: ridersguide.nl/product/neilpryde-firefly-iv-2026/

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7 Jun 2026 5:06pm

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6 Jun 2026 3:21am

Searched the internet but cant find any direct comparisons on the low end of the fly vs the firefly. Anyone that has experience with both and can say something about the low end of both wings?

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