I've never said it would.
Nothing will ever make us completely safe aside from wiping them out completely. What it would do is help reduce the risk. Deter the curious.

(There is also footage of charging ones being deterred by the devices. )

MDSXR6T said..

Dawn Patrol said...
Those photos are crap. That isn't fishing for food. That's fishing for fun, to catch the biggest. Shows real big balls...It's in the same bag as trophy hunting. Real tough guys...
Still wonder how many of you pro kill guys have purchased a surfsafe or similar? Or you all too lazy to be proactive, just want the simple outdated solution?

You've got rocks in your head if you think a surf safe or anything else is going to stop a 15ft,1000kg shark in its tracks.. the proof is in the pudding and it's great that people are trialling new ideas but until they open that cage door and personally swim out, i won't believe they work on anything somewhat aggressive.

I still think let game boys catch them and release them with a live tracking tag. Game fishermen get to catch the most badass thing in the ocean, it swims off and fisheries can monitor them in real time. If there really is only 749 left then its unlikely they will all be swimming within 2 or 3km of the coast. Everyone wins

You're right, proof is in the pudding! Shark Shield has been around since the 90's and has been proven to work, no one has ever been bitten with one on. I've seen footage of a very intent GW doing a back flip when it reached a surf safe unit. I'd absolutely get in the water with a GW with a shark shield unit and would certainly use one in WA at this time of the year.

I guess opinions differ. I think game fishing/hunting for is pointless. Regardless of licence or number control. Just a pissing contest.

And that last paragraph is just pathetic and inappropriate.

Enough is enough CULL CULL CULL



..........you tell my mate who carried the leg up hanging on half a surf board........... its OK

You tell the family of the diver who was bitten in half ...................its ok


sick of you greenies ................hope your next

The fisheries are a bunch useless sods ...............you telling me they could not even investigate bite marks or do DNA or find wetsuit in its guts to work out if the shark dragged out was the one ..............come on , it should have been taken to the closest marina and had its guts split open

Then to try to catch the divers shark they pull the drum lines in over night .................useless sods

There happy taking our money for boat rego etc etc , fining us for 2 extra Tommie ruffs , but when it comes down to human life there no where to be seen ...........................useless

Sorry but if you enter WA waters swimming surfing paddle boarding diving windsurfing kiting ................your bait

king of the point said..
Enough is enough CULL CULL CULL



..........you tell my mate who carried the leg up hanging on the end of a surf board its OK

You tell the family of the diver who was bitten in half ...................its ok


sick of you greenies ................hope your next

The fisheries are a bunch useless sods ...............you telling me they could not even investigate bite marks or do DNA or find wetsuit in its guts to work out if the shark dragged out was the one ..............come on , it should have been taken to the closest marina and had its guts split open

Then to try to catch the divers shark they pull the drum lines in over night .................useless sods

There happy taking our money for boat rego etc etc , fining us for 2 extra Tommie ruffs , but when it comes down to human life there no where to be seen ...........................useless

Sorry but if you enter WA waters swimming surfing paddle boarding diving windsurfing kiting ................your bait

No, your choice!

king of the point said..
Enough is enough CULL CULL CULL



..........you tell my mate who carried the leg up hanging on the half a surf board its OK

You tell the family of the diver who was bitten in half ...................its ok


sick of you greenies ................hope your next

The fisheries are a bunch useless sods ...............you telling me they could not even investigate bite marks or do DNA or find wetsuit in its guts to work out if the shark dragged out was the one ..............come on , it should have been taken to the closest marina and had its guts split open

Then to try to catch the divers shark they pull the drum lines in over night .................useless sods

There happy taking our money for boat rego etc etc , fining us for 2 extra Tommie ruffs , but when it comes down to human life there no where to be seen ...........................useless

Sorry but if you enter WA waters swimming surfing paddle boarding diving windsurfing kiting ................your bait

MDSXR6T said..

Dawn Patrol said...
Those photos are crap. That isn't fishing for food. That's fishing for fun, to catch the biggest. Shows real big balls...It's in the same bag as trophy hunting. Real tough guys...
Still wonder how many of you pro kill guys have purchased a surfsafe or similar? Or you all too lazy to be proactive, just want the simple outdated solution?

You've got rocks in your head if you think a surf safe or anything else is going to stop a 15ft,1000kg shark in its tracks.. the proof is in the pudding and it's great that people are trialling new ideas but until they open that cage door and personally swim out, i won't believe they work on anything somewhat aggressive.

I still think let game boys catch them and release them with a live tracking tag. Game fishermen get to catch the most badass thing in the ocean, it swims off and fisheries can monitor them in real time. If there really is only 749 left then its unlikely they will all be swimming within 2 or 3km of the coast. Everyone wins

I so wish stupid un educated stories like above posted on the internet, were made a chargeable offence

Maybe then you'd think twice about posting them

jbshack said..

MDSXR6T said..

Dawn Patrol said...
Those photos are crap. That isn't fishing for food. That's fishing for fun, to catch the biggest. Shows real big balls...It's in the same bag as trophy hunting. Real tough guys...
Still wonder how many of you pro kill guys have purchased a surfsafe or similar? Or you all too lazy to be proactive, just want the simple outdated solution?

You've got rocks in your head if you think a surf safe or anything else is going to stop a 15ft,1000kg shark in its tracks.. the proof is in the pudding and it's great that people are trialling new ideas but until they open that cage door and personally swim out, i won't believe they work on anything somewhat aggressive.

I still think let game boys catch them and release them with a live tracking tag. Game fishermen get to catch the most badass thing in the ocean, it swims off and fisheries can monitor them in real time. If there really is only 749 left then its unlikely they will all be swimming within 2 or 3km of the coast. Everyone wins

I so wish stupid un educated stories like above posted on the internet, were made a chargeable offence

Maybe then you'd think twice about posting them

On the contrary JB I reckon they actually help the cause of reason. Many rednecks on the other side of the argument can only ever help your side !

MDSXR6T said..
Jb, don't be silly mate, you're talking about a hunting animal bigger than a car and doing 40kmh. It isn't being stopped by a bloody electronic device the size of a phone and they certainly can't just stop and do a ****ing backflip, even the momentum will hurt you.

I assume you have 1 or more of these devices so its great your now safe from the local mindarie wobbigong population but lets just hope that big whites have gone elsewhere.

Post the videos of people (not dummys of anything else) fending off an excited 4m+ shark with a surf safe / shark shield / waterproof mobile phone and i'll forever be a believer.

How about providing something more than pudding to prove that you know better than some of the worlds leading shark biologists

I got to say, I'm so glad people like you are well in the minority.

No point arguing with bjshark.. he's so one eyed about saving every single white shark, their food and environment that he's forgotten he's making money by selling fishing boats

Another option
that may not solve the problem but somehow circumnavigate it could be :
Shark Insurance Compulsory Compensation.
Since government is not interested in resolving the problem or unable to do so,there is compensation paid for every serious shark accident to the victim or his family.

Say 20 mln dollars for limb lost.

30 for for life
5 for serious bite.

Then after few years of paying compensation government may rethink over option, like drums, that could be cheaper .

novetti said..

jbshack said..

I got to say, I'm so glad people like you are well in the minority.

I even gave you a green for that, enjoy those pavements..

MDSXR6T said...

cauncy said...
No not really, I was up shark bay, dhi last week kiting couple of weeks back,
Kited over plenty of sharks in varied length from reef to 10/12 ft, the recent footage of the 70 sharks having a feed in the passage wasn't that far away,
I accept I'm in their water, I'm not a shark hugger , but I certainly wouldn't want to see them killed for my pleasure, both my kids love the ocean and surf , but are aware of the risk,
Everyone complains about crowded waves, too many kiters, imagine a risk free ocean,
You carnt have it all

Yet you're happy to post photos of you proudly holding snapper, dhuies and crays but you don't want to kill a shark?

You saw loads of sharks up north (no whites though and lets face it most other sharks wont attack you) and thats great but you do realise a few weeks ago i killed 2 smaller sharks (for food) and it was fine and legal. Plenty of other people do and yet the balance is still there isnt it? Why is a white different?

Koalas were/are being culled over east because some populations are starving and are rife with chlyamidia. Most normal people see the science behind this. It's not a pleasant idea but its the best thing for their survival. If science, tagging programs and research backed this up with white sharks, why is it a problem?

At some point over the next 100 years humpback whale numbers may be out of control. What then? We'll sit at the dinner table eating fish, chicken and steak and be outraged at the Japanese taking a few dozen.

From there we can take it right to the top of the food chain, humans, but it gets a little confronting.

You have some answers right there
You catch sharks, why not prime eating fish?
The same reason fishos have boats capable of going long distances in search of a feed,
We've overfished which is an important food source for juvenile whites, big whites primary feed is seals, sealions, small whale, these are coastal inhabitants so naturally will attract the big whites , I had a few days with a shark researcher off dhi around 7 years back, he made reference to sharks being more placid in this region of plentiful food compared to heavily populated and overfished areas, I often fished with my dis guarded fish carcasses laying below me and witnessed large tigers not being that interested,
We had a few discussions , in his opinion he was certain that mistaken identity was the reason for attacks,after the initial attack a white rarely takes a human but never leaves a seal was one of his quotes, a few weeks ago at gracetown whilst watching my kids surf looked out at surfers looking very similar to a colony of seals,
The mindarie victim had fishos very close, a possibility of burley was a thought which naturally attracts ,
As for their numbers getting out of control rapidly I'd say that's a bit of an exaggeration ,
25 years or so for males to reach and 35 for a female to reach sexual maturity,
Why are koalas starving, lack of natural food is my bet, ( destruction of natural habitat for housing) there's a link there,
So if we knock them on the head what happens to seals and sealions numbers as they've now no predator to keep their numbers under natural control, then the big decrease in the sealions/ seals natural food and so it goes on along the chain
Yeh I love a fish,only for a feed though and never for the freezer, I'll put plenty back and wouldn't dream of fishing for certain species,
I'll still be kiting even if gw numbers grow
As will the majority of surfers and ocean lovers,
I kite as it has a feeling of risk, same as when I boxed or went mad on my bike, as with any sport you can narrow the risks

Shark Shield is the only electrical repellent on the market that's been independently shown to be effective at deterring sharks from biting. The electrical field is created by a two-metre cord that trails behind the user. For divers and swimmers, the device is wrapped around the ankle (Freedom 7, $749), while for surfers and kayaks there's a different model (Surf 7, $749) that requires installation directly onto a board.While Shark Shield can deter a shark from attacking, it won't do so every time. The most recent study of the device by scientists at the University of Western Australia (UWA) found it prevented great whites and tiger sharks from attacking most of the time, but it wasn't always effective. An earlier study by the South Australian Research and Development Institute also found the device was effective in deterring great whites, but noted it didn't "deter or repel this species in all situations, nor did it repel all individuals". And user reports back this up. A South Australian abalone diver told CHOICE he knew of two people who had been attacked while wearing a Shark Shield. But while Shark Shield has been shown to be effective at least some of the time, it turns out not all electrical repellents are created equally. UWA researchers found that electrical repellents compacted into an anklet were ineffective at repelling sharks.As Dr Charlie Huveneers, a shark expert at Flinders University explains, "the effectiveness of an electrical deterrent partly depends on the strength and frequency of the electrical pulse they emit and configuration of the electrodes".The trailing cord of the Shark Shield means the electrodes are spread far apart, but the electrodes are much closer together on anklet devices, offering less protection.