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Razzonater
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7 May 2012 8:45pm
Punctuation may be preferable but sometimes I get excited from the brainwashed spineless jellyfish calling me a redneck
log man
log man
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8 May 2012 12:45am
Razzonater said...

Punctuation may be preferable but sometimes I get excited from the brainwashed spineless jellyfish calling me a redneck


"spineless jellyfish"?
poor relative
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7 May 2012 11:11pm
redneck
rickwindt
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8 May 2012 12:53am
Razzonater said...

I pay taxes a lot of them. I pay them to our government. A Muslim single man traveling through severel Muslim countries before coming to Australia with no papers who may or may not have extremist beliefs who has gone through a life of social engineering in a non English speaking country which will hang any infidel caught with a bible is not a refugee. Where are all these men's families? If asylum was a necessity they would bring them too. Don't try feed me the horse**** that the passage here is too dangerous for them. In western culture if a ship goes down its women and children first so how come all the boats are full of healthy males fleeing a country through severel other Muslim same language speaking countries where our brothers and sisters are fighting and dying for these people's freedom against dictators who the USA put in for their own benefit. My dad is Finnish I have friends of aboriginal Asian and believe it or not of Muslim faith all of who came here and wanted to live in Australia as Australians. A good friend of mine works for customs and handles a lot of these people and while they may of signed a confidentiality agreement I have not. Are you aware that they have bags packed with western clothes mobile phones(a lot of which contain things such as child pornography)and also a copy of their Koran coming from war torn countries from different tribes with a hatred for others of the same area. The countries they come from accept things like rape and when offenders are caught it is often the women who suffer.a complete lack of criminal record does not indicate whether or not someone has no blood on their hands.it disappoints me that so close to Anzac day people want to sell out. Where is your patriotism and respect for those who have allowed our safe peaceful democratic society to exist.will you sell out your family home where your kids live to take these people in and allow these people of different faith and belief systems near your kids wife and family. You disgust me and your naive thinking is appalling. Do you think the cronulla race riots was about racism open your eyes the people protecting the streets were of all nationalities maybe you should watch the bra boys film and that may show a few people on this thread what being Australian is about. I'm not racist I hate everyone equally and I take people on face value. But if you believe in rape and abusing children think I'm an infidel and would kill me for reading a bible in your country your not welcome **** off. And to the Aussies of all faiths supporting this poor government attempt at social engineering how about we look after our own how many aboriginal living in third world conditions are there what about Aussie kids in poverty. What about ya mates who are doing it tough or have you chosen to forget them cause the government won't pay you for it with my tax money while my oldies are on a pension and I have to help them out so they can eat and pay bills after paying taxes for65years. Go on sell out look after others before your own line your pockets with dirty money than judge others for not so you feel better about your own lack of moral and ethic standing pieces of **** no idea of how lucky we once were and what your helping take from our own


Interesting view... You do however know that the asylum seekers eligible for this program have had a proper proven background check?

Quote: Are you aware that they have bags packed with western clothes mobile phones(a lot of which contain things such as child pornography)and also a copy of their Koran coming from war torn countries from different tribes with a hatred for others of the same area.

Yes there would be some of these people. But you are making it sound like every single one of the asylum seekers is an absolutely terrible person. Surely most of them are genuine refugees that do not have a future in their own country or are fleeing for a dictator or hunger etc.

By doing a proper background check you rule out the bad ones from the good ones and even though there might still be a small chance that things will go pear shaped when you take a refugee in your house, before you do it you already know that you are taking that risk.

Quote:Where is your patriotism and respect for those who have allowed our safe peaceful democratic society to exist?

Isn't our society based on multiculturalism? In fact back in the day since WW2 the government was actually specifically looking for immigrants to come in. So should we not pride ourselves in multiculturalism since that's what the initial idea was in the first place?
dinsdale
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8 May 2012 4:02pm
cisco said...
I think you are on the mark Razzonator.

However to make you posts a little more readable and looking similar to this one, just press the enter button twice after every sentence or two.

Sort of breaks it up into bite sized chunks.

I agree with Cisco. I'd like to read your posts, but after going cross-eyed an indeterminate number of times I give up.

It's irrelevant how good, bright or enlightening your posts are if no-one can read them.

Razzonater
Razzonater
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8 May 2012 4:57pm
Dear rickwind would you accept these people into your home with your family or would it be a chance(risk) you wouldn't like to take?
Understandably my views may seem a little out there but sometimes people find it more comforting to believe a lie than admit the wools over their eyes
Mobydisc
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8 May 2012 7:50pm
I have a studio apartment under my rental home. It's a nice but small unit with views of the water. Currently it's empty and is advertised for $170 a week rent. Would it be possible to rent it out to the government for an asylum seekr and get $300 a week. It would be good for them, as they have their own kitchen and bathroom so they can do their own thing.

I'd give them $50 a week to buy food and $40 for beer.

Mark _australia
Mark _australia
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8 May 2012 5:53pm
Mobydisc said...

I have a studio apartment under my rental home. It's a nice but small unit with views of the water. Currently it's empty and is advertised for $170 a week rent. Would it be possible to rent it out to the government for an asylum seekr and get $300 a week. It would be good for them, as they have their own kitchen and bathroom so they can do their own thing.

I'd give them $50 a week to buy food and $40 for beer.




There is another problem with the scheme I guess (apart from the exploitation we spoke of earlier).
Even if it was a rental not attached to your residence, you probably could get away with pretending you live there, get a couple of them in at $300 p/w from the Govt and leave them to it.

sn
sn
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8 May 2012 6:40pm
Mobydisc said...
I'd give them $50 a week to buy food and $40 for beer.


but the Koran forbids alcohol, doesnt it?

Stephen.
Mobydisc
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8 May 2012 8:58pm
sn said...

Mobydisc said...
I'd give them $50 a week to buy food and $40 for beer.


but the Koran forbids alcohol, doesnt it?

Stephen.


I think it does but I've met a few Muslims who like a beer.

Yes it would be great to boost the rental income on my flat. If it's still vacant when the scheme starts I'll make enquiries.
rickwindt
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WA
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8 May 2012 7:21pm
Razzonater said...

Dear rickwind would you accept these people into your home with your family or would it be a chance(risk) you wouldn't like to take?
Understandably my views may seem a little out there but sometimes people find it more comforting to believe a lie than admit the wools over their eyes



I must say if I could choose who I would want living in my house, and interview the person, I would consider doing this yes. Not only am I helping this person integrate and giving them a better livable life instead of the detention centers, it will also benefit me financially.

I am not denying that it could be hard to have a refugee in your house. The shear 'awkwardness' could become a factor. However the fact that they are a refugee does not bother me. The language barrier however would be something to think about.
cisco
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8 May 2012 10:32pm
It could be a thing that is easy to get into but difficult to get out of if the experience is not enjoyable.

Something to be considered is "House Rules".
rickwindt
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8 May 2012 9:36pm
cisco said...

It could be a thing that is easy to get into but difficult to get out of if the experience is not enjoyable.

Something to be considered is "House Rules".


Surely there will probably be some contract that both you and the refugee would have to sign. I imagine both parties can both end the agreement at any time when things go wrong.

House rules definitely is something to make sure they'll follow. I guess you might be able to include the rules in the contract?
Gizmo
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9 May 2012 9:39am
rickwindt said...

cisco said...

It could be a thing that is easy to get into but difficult to get out of if the experience is not enjoyable.

Something to be considered is "House Rules".


Surely there will probably be some contract that both you and the refugee would have to sign. I imagine both parties can both end the agreement at any time when things go wrong.

House rules definitely is something to make sure they'll follow. I guess you might be able to include the rules in the contract?


May I suggest before you say "YES" learn a little about 'Islamic toilet etiquette'.
My daughter in-law was assigned a uni residence with an Islamic girl.... lasted less than 24hrs (we now look at little elephant plastic jugs from the $2 shop with TOTALLY different eyes) or put simply do you like a constantly wet bathroom floor?

Razzonater
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9 May 2012 10:57am
Dear rickwind I hope you enjoy your time with your new refugee and enjoy their company culture and beliefs in your house no point saying maybe or you'd like to interview them you should just accept who your given as the government wouldn't lie to you and enjoy your new life together maybe doing scripture studies together at night over a cold beer?
felixdcat
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WA
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9 May 2012 10:58am
Gizmo said...

rickwindt said...

cisco said...

It could be a thing that is easy to get into but difficult to get out of if the experience is not enjoyable.

Something to be considered is "House Rules".


Surely there will probably be some contract that both you and the refugee would have to sign. I imagine both parties can both end the agreement at any time when things go wrong.

House rules definitely is something to make sure they'll follow. I guess you might be able to include the rules in the contract?


May I suggest before you say "YES" learn a little about 'Islamic toilet etiquette'.
My daughter in-law was assigned a uni residence with an Islamic girl.... lasted less than 24hrs (we now look at little elephant plastic jugs from the $2 shop with TOTALLY different eyes) or put simply do you like a constantly wet bathroom floor?




Also 2 separate fridges, 2 cook tops, not sure if they can use the same kitchen if you cook pork???? keep your daughter & wife locked in a room as they like very young ones as they have not respect for the muslim female imagine what they think about the non muslim!!!!!!
$ 300 would not even put a dent in the inconvenience,
I have a small shed at the back........... I believe I could store 10 of them in there (standing up)...........!
GreenPat
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9 May 2012 4:25pm
Razzonater said...

<snip>
while big companies build mines at taxpayer expense ie ravensthorpe
<snip>
the Australian taxpayers payed 300billionfor it to be built.
<snip>




How do you figure that?
dinsdale
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WA
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9 May 2012 4:02pm
felixdcat said...
as they like very young ones ...

That's not entirely fair. Whilst they are allowed to marry them at 6yrs old, they're only allowed to fondle/finger/ whatever-you-thinks-fair until they're 9yrs old. So they do (or at least should) wait until they're 9 - you know, all grown up like.

felixdcat said...
as they have not respect for the muslim female

Already covered in another thread.
www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/index.aspx
See the section entitled "Wome's Rights".

felixdcat said...
imagine what they think about the non muslim!!!!!!

You mean the, "uncovered meat", to quote the senior muslim in Oz.

d1
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9 May 2012 4:26pm
¡Ay, caramba!

So I've read the real Koran, and not the rightwing link posted above, and can assure all of you, potential Muslim refugee recipients, especially Dinsdale, that you have nothing to worry about. It is all a matter of religious interpretation, and in 99.99% of the cases, the interpretation will be "moderate", and similar to the mainstream biblical interpretation. The refugees will gladly eat your food and may even drink your beer, even though it is technically "haram" (prohibited), because there is a specific provision allowing for this in order not to offend the host of the house. You may also find that your guests are very polite and respectful to you, your family, and your belongings while in your house - as dictated by their religion.

And let's be realistic - would you rather leave your children with a Muslim refugee or with a Catholic priest?

rickwindt
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9 May 2012 6:26pm
felixdcat said...

Gizmo said...

rickwindt said...

cisco said...

It could be a thing that is easy to get into but difficult to get out of if the experience is not enjoyable.

Something to be considered is "House Rules".


Surely there will probably be some contract that both you and the refugee would have to sign. I imagine both parties can both end the agreement at any time when things go wrong.

House rules definitely is something to make sure they'll follow. I guess you might be able to include the rules in the contract?


May I suggest before you say "YES" learn a little about 'Islamic toilet etiquette'.
My daughter in-law was assigned a uni residence with an Islamic girl.... lasted less than 24hrs (we now look at little elephant plastic jugs from the $2 shop with TOTALLY different eyes) or put simply do you like a constantly wet bathroom floor?




Also 2 separate fridges, 2 cook tops, not sure if they can use the same kitchen if you cook pork???? keep your daughter & wife locked in a room as they like very young ones as they have not respect for the muslim female imagine what they think about the non muslim!!!!!!
$ 300 would not even put a dent in the inconvenience,
I have a small shed at the back........... I believe I could store 10 of them in there (standing up)...........!



Not all refugees are Muslim?
rickwindt
rickwindt
WA
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9 May 2012 6:31pm
rickwindt said...

felixdcat said...

Gizmo said...

rickwindt said...

cisco said...

It could be a thing that is easy to get into but difficult to get out of if the experience is not enjoyable.

Something to be considered is "House Rules".


Surely there will probably be some contract that both you and the refugee would have to sign. I imagine both parties can both end the agreement at any time when things go wrong.

House rules definitely is something to make sure they'll follow. I guess you might be able to include the rules in the contract?


May I suggest before you say "YES" learn a little about 'Islamic toilet etiquette'.
My daughter in-law was assigned a uni residence with an Islamic girl.... lasted less than 24hrs (we now look at little elephant plastic jugs from the $2 shop with TOTALLY different eyes) or put simply do you like a constantly wet bathroom floor?




Also 2 separate fridges, 2 cook tops, not sure if they can use the same kitchen if you cook pork???? keep your daughter & wife locked in a room as they like very young ones as they have not respect for the muslim female imagine what they think about the non muslim!!!!!!
$ 300 would not even put a dent in the inconvenience,
I have a small shed at the back........... I believe I could store 10 of them in there (standing up)...........!



Not all refugees are Muslim? In fact a lot of these refugees are fleeing their country because they get forced into a religion that they do not want to be a part of. and if do end up doing things like that you just kick them out. As I said before, surely both parties would have to sign a contract which would include house rules.


dinsdale
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9 May 2012 7:08pm
d1 said...
And let's be realistic - would you rather leave your children with a Muslim refugee or with a Catholic priest?

That's irrelevant!. It's not a question anyone will have to reconcile. There are many, many other options available. Like most people, I'm sure, I'd most definitely choose one of the other alternatives.


poor relative
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9 May 2012 7:57pm
www.evilbible.com/

Seems god was a c**t too

The God of the Bible also allows slavery, including selling your own daughter as a sex slave (Exodus 21:1-11), child abuse (Judges 11:29-40 and Isaiah 13:16), and bashing babies against rocks (Hosea 13:16 & Psalms 137:9).

Makes the Koran look like the beano


Religion is so divisive and to anyone else who doesn't believe its quite pointless.


d1
d1
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9 May 2012 8:26pm
dinsdale said...
That's irrelevant!. It's not a question anyone will have to reconcile. There are many, many other options available. Like most people, I'm sure, I'd most definitely choose one of the other alternatives.


Hah, of course You are intelligent enough to express yourself well and quickly recognize a false dichotomy, so how come you have such a biased view on religions other than yours? That I cannot reconcile.
d1
d1
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9 May 2012 8:38pm
poor relative said...


Religion is so divisive and to anyone else who doesn't believe its quite pointless.

It is pointless to atheists, but it provides quick answers to complex questions for the rest. For example, explaining "Why do human look like this?" is fairly difficult for an atheist - it may well take a few years to provide the background one requires to deliver a convincing answer, starting with the primordial aminoacid soup, the accidental single-cell lifeform, anagenesis and speciation, evolution away from the oceans, etc... But for a Christian, Muslim or a Jew, the answer can be delivered in 3 seconds: "Because God made us like this". See the benefit?
poor relative
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9 May 2012 9:15pm
d1 said...

But for a Christian, Muslim or a Jew, the answer can be delivered in 3 seconds: "Because God made us like this". See the benefit?



If only maths were as easy
felixdcat
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10 May 2012 9:58am
rickwindt said...

rickwindt said...

felixdcat said...

Gizmo said...

rickwindt said...

cisco said...

It could be a thing that is easy to get into but difficult to get out of if the experience is not enjoyable.

Something to be considered is "House Rules".


Surely there will probably be some contract that both you and the refugee would have to sign. I imagine both parties can both end the agreement at any time when things go wrong.

House rules definitely is something to make sure they'll follow. I guess you might be able to include the rules in the contract?


May I suggest before you say "YES" learn a little about 'Islamic toilet etiquette'.
My daughter in-law was assigned a uni residence with an Islamic girl.... lasted less than 24hrs (we now look at little elephant plastic jugs from the $2 shop with TOTALLY different eyes) or put simply do you like a constantly wet bathroom floor?




Also 2 separate fridges, 2 cook tops, not sure if they can use the same kitchen if you cook pork???? keep your daughter & wife locked in a room as they like very young ones as they have not respect for the muslim female imagine what they think about the non muslim!!!!!!
$ 300 would not even put a dent in the inconvenience,
I have a small shed at the back........... I believe I could store 10 of them in there (standing up)...........!



Not all refugees are Muslim? In fact a lot of these refugees are fleeing their country because they get forced into a religion that they do not want to be a part of. and if do end up doing things like that you just kick them out. As I said before, surely both parties would have to sign a contract which would include house rules.




Good point!

cisco
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11 May 2012 11:46am
I have an Indian couple (Sikhs from Punjab) staying at my house who are delightful people. They did not arrive as refugees and they tell me the comparative cost of living back home is higher than here, though there is a certain economic advantage to living in Australia.

They are going through the process of gaining "Permanent Residency Status".

Apart from the financial burden of the process which is upwards from $50,000, the rest of it is quite onerous to say the least, re English language and literacy requirements and the requirement to be in a regional or rural community for 2 years mixed into the rest of the very complicated equation.

If the "queue jumpers" were required to do the same thing I am quite certain less than 10% would actually make it.

The first thing they would do is cry "unfair".
Razzonater
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11 May 2012 10:27am
Dear green pat the government paid for infrastructure development housing and sanitation services it bought houses and released land in ravensthorpe under the promise of bhp that the taxes from the mine would recover costs also as the mine was research and development the government also partially funded construction and bhp received tax breaks once built the mine is now owned by a Canadian fronted company which is 60 percent owned by the Chinese .
300billion dollars to build
Sold for 300 million also this included over 100 houses in hopetoun
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