smicko said..
Not so much wrong with grains, just the amount that the average person eats is the issue. The food pyramid is bull****, there's no way that our natural diet should consist of an intake of grain 4 times the amount of vegetables and 5 times the amount of protein that we are supposed to consume.

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We are also not supposed to sit behind a desk all day or watch TV all night.......

So, seeign as thought we fkd that up, I am getting Maccas and a case of beers

bye y'all

Last 4 generations on my fathers side died of heart attacks in their 50's. My father and uncle both would have also, except for quad bypass surgery. Both are skinny as a rake, eat like rabbits, exercise regularly, but had cholesterol readings close to double figures. Following surgery, cholesterol med's have kept their readings down from 9 to 2.5 and now they are both in their late 70's.

At age 45 and with a young family to look after, I was obviously concerned. My chol readings started to take an identical path to my father's, 4, then 5, and then 6. Chol meds brought it down to 2.5, but then they started to destroy my kidneys, so I had to go off them. Doctor suggested I have a heart CAT scan to see just what was happening, so we could then make a more educated decision whether to try other meds, or just stay off them.

They did two scans. One was a calcium scan to show plaque in the arteries, and the other was a radioactive iodine injection into my blood that can then let you see the blood flowing in the arteries, and shows if there are any blockages building up. The second scan is important, as there can be plaque that has not calcified, and therefore would not show up on the calcium scan. The downside of the scan is that I was exposed to the equivalent of 12 months of normal background radiation, an acceptable risk given my age and risk profile.

Expecting the worst, I was then told I am in the 0 percentile risk group, with 100% clear arteries. Life insurance companies would be lining up for my business with the results I had. The doctors explanation..."For some people the cholesterol sticks, for other people it doesn't. We don't know why."

Seems I must have heart genes from my mothers side. (That side of the family all drink, smoke and eat what they like until their late 80's or 90's.) Now I have to put more money in super to fund my longer retirement.

Thanks for that Harrow, puts a bit more light on the subject. And congrats on your clear result.

petermac33 said..

Just finished watching Catalyst on ABC or SBS about this myth that saturated fat causes high cholesterol leading to heart disease. Have believed for years it was a con. Replace your margarine with butter and fry with coconut oil for starters. And get off the cholesterol lowering meds as you don't need them anymore,now it's admitted that there is no correlation between a high saturated fat diet and high cholesterol. Have got to wonder what else they lied to us about.

I was thrilled to see the program. Dr Dingle must be happy as he's very against statins.

decrepit said..

Well I saw the Dr, she says, sure go off the pills for 6 months and we'll re-evaluate. Makes sense to me, I had the same thing in mind.
Even though I've just seen this.
scepticalnutritionist.com.au/?p=1121

Looks like Catalyst might have been duped by the Malaysian Palm Oil Industry.

God almighty. Catalyst a dupe or a shill? That's ****ing disappointing.

smicko said...
Not so much wrong with grains, just the amount that the average person eats is the issue. The food pyramid is bull****, there's no way that our natural diet should consist of an intake of grain 4 times the amount of vegetables and 5 times the amount of protein that we are supposed to consume.
As a primate think of yourself as a chimpanzee, they don't run around collecting grass seeds, they eat predominantly vegetable matter in the form of roots and stems and protein via grubs and insects.
I'm not suggesting we eat grubs and bugs, merely that our diet should consist primarily of vegetables and protein.

We are animals. It makes no sense for us to wander around picking grass seeds (grain) and grovel under cows sucking their teats when our bodies find metabolising vegetables and meat so natural.

It just kinda makes sense to me.

Mmmmmmmmmmmm............grains are used to make beer..............mmmmmmmmm.

Just as well beer is not eaten. I bet if chimps worked out how to ferment, add hops and yeast that they would consume more grain.

Commenting on Dr Malhotra's article, Timothy Noakes, a professor at the University of Cape Town, South Africa, said: "Focusing on an elevated blood cholesterol concentration as the exclusive cause of coronary heart disease is unquestionably the worst medical error of our time.

"After reviewing all the scientific evidence I draw just one conclusion - never prescribe a statin drug for a loved one."

Professor David Haslam, chair of the National Obesity Forum, said: "The assumption has been made that increased fat in the bloodstream is caused by increased saturated fat in the diet, whereas modern evidence is proving that refined carbohydrates and sugar in particular are actually the culprits."


www.sott.net/article/268441-Eating-fat-is-good-for-you-Doctors-change-their-minds-after-40-years

Doen't your body use cholesterol to convert Vitamin D to energy?

Maybe high cholesterol means you aren't getting enough vitamin D