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stribo
stribo
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31 Oct 2007 1:54pm
DaveSpruce said...

Sorry mate, I dont regret doing ANYTHING. I stand for everything I do. I may look back on it and say it was a bad call, whatever it might be, going to a party, buying a new kite, spending money on something, whatever, but I dont ever regret anything.. Everything I do makes me the person I am and if I hadnt done it I would have been a different person, hence no regrets.

I would however regret NOT doing something. NOT going to that party, NOT buying that kite, NOT spending the money on whatever, cause if I had I might have had an awsome time, met some new people, new friends, a girl, learnt something new or whatever. You dont grow as a person by sitting at home, doing the same thing over and over and not trying new things. If thats your line then I think its just sad, sorry mate.



Like Bill Hicks said: "I have taken drugs before.. and........ I had a real good time! Didn't murder anybody, didn't rob anybody, didn't rape anybody, didn't beat anybody, didn't loose, uhhmmm... ONE ****ing job.. Laughed my ASS off, And went about my day.....!"

Im in the same boat...


Dave Dave DAve what can i say ..... I,ve been there done that .There is'nt much i hav'nt seen or done.I reckon i'm on my 9th life.And you live and learn "grow" from your own experience . You are right in that you shoud'nt wrap your self in cotton wool and try nothing new. But is the risk of a fake high worth missing out on all the "new" things you could try????
Personaly i would rather get eaten by a shark than choke on my own vomit in the gutter.
There is more to life ,as you have stated, you've tried them and you know there are other activities with a real high.So why risk it anymore???
stribo
stribo
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31 Oct 2007 2:12pm
OH and BTW dave..Would you buy a kite for $2500 and go into the ocean with it if you had no idea who made it or what it was made from???
Mark _australia
Mark _australia
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31 Oct 2007 1:20pm
Roger that
DaveSpruce
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31 Oct 2007 3:22pm
Pugwash: yes they know

Chook: No we are getting a bit of wind now but I ****ed my knee playing soccer lsat thursday so wanna rest that so not to ruin the entire kite season. Having that said it feels "alright" I will probably give it a go tomorrow:) Can't resist a good breeze session

Stribo: No.. first off I wouldn't buy a kite for 2500 bucks (same as I wouldn't get drugs for ridiculous prices). Second yeah sure I would go out with an unknown kite, if someone I knew handed it to me and said this is an alright kite, try it..

Don't want you guys to get the wrong picture of me, it's not like I'm a crack head, but I enjoy taking a pill or two for special occasions, festivals, concerts and such so maybe 10-20 times a year (if even that). And I never do it while I'm working, which is every saturday night so there you go.. Apart from that I'm fine with my beers and fernets. I just don't judge other people or tell them this or that is bad and you're stupid if you think otherwise and think I know better. Better for people to find out themselves.. Scare tactics usually don't work very well
stribo
stribo
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31 Oct 2007 4:58pm
DaveSpruce said...

Pugwash: yes they know

Chook: No we are getting a bit of wind now but I ****ed my knee playing soccer lsat thursday so wanna rest that so not to ruin the entire kite season. Having that said it feels "alright" I will probably give it a go tomorrow:) Can't resist a good breeze session

Stribo: No.. first off I wouldn't buy a kite for 2500 bucks (same as I wouldn't get drugs for ridiculous prices). Second yeah sure I would go out with an unknown kite, if someone I knew handed it to me and said this is an alright kite, try it..

Don't want you guys to get the wrong picture of me, it's not like I'm a crack head, but I enjoy taking a pill or two for special occasions, festivals, concerts and such so maybe 10-20 times a year (if even that). And I never do it while I'm working, which is every saturday night so there you go.. Apart from that I'm fine with my beers and fernets. I just don't judge other people or tell them this or that is bad and you're stupid if you think otherwise and think I know better. Better for people to find out themselves.. Scare tactics usually don't work very well


Scare tactics may not work but awarness is important.
I don't judge anyone just their actions and the effect it has on others.

DaveSpruce said...

Also, if there's anyone that hasn't tried drugs you can keep your opinions to yourselves since they are just your guesses and you don't know ANYTHING about the subject.. It's very simple, if you don't know anything about it you don't comment..


I don't understand this one mate ??? So if a doctor hasn't taken eccy's or speed or meth he shouldn't pull a person out of a drug induced coma or write a book on the subject of paranoid phsycosis caused by drug abuse hmmm?
A little judgmental maybe??

Dave i used to have the same ideas about drugs as you. I guess you need to see a bit more carnage caused by them to see the truth.
Mate like i have said before im not anti drug im pro drug awareness.
Supersane
Supersane
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174 posts
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31 Oct 2007 6:09pm
Fellas, it comes down to pro-choice, being informed and knowing the risks etc etc etc.

My missus is a social worker and sees the effects of addiction to both drugs and alcohol daily. It's true that binge drinking can be very harmful, as can grass and recreational use of drugs. Usually adiction or becoming a "junkie" occurs when there are other issues involved such as mental illness, depression, crisis etc.

Zero tolerence does not work, infact in my opinion it makes things worse. Correct me if I am wrong but I think the Swiss only started to curb a rising heroin problem once they decriminalised smack and introduced safe injection (I think the government actually funded a program that actually prescibed heorin to users and helped them with their smack problem and the mental/social/personal problems to help kick the habit).
www.drugpolicy.org/issues/international-drug-war

It's good having an open forum which issues like this can be discussed. Me? I think that the adolecent brain should be left to develop drug free... there are all sorts of extra hormones floating around while brains and bodies develop that make the effects of drugs and alcohol far more profound and sometimes lasting. However, once everthing has matured then I think that is up to the individual. Whatever the choice though it should be an informed one.

Dawn Patrol, its good that your looking out for your mates... good job bloke.

Meanwhile I'm off to do some drug and alcohol fieldwork (purely educational ofcourse)

User is uncharacteristically quiet... I thought that this would be his type of topic

DL
DL
WA
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DL DL
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31 Oct 2007 4:15pm
How can you categorically say that alcohol is a more acceptable drug than ecstasy?

Which is worse?

1) Alcoholic father that comes home drunk every night and beats his wife and kids.
2) DaveSpruce who takes a pill every now and then when he goes to a concert and bothers no one (apart from the wowsers, that is. But they aren't actually at the concert, and being bothered remotely doesn't count)

Sure, there are plenty of examples where "hard" drugs lead to terrible consequences - anti-social behaviour, overdoses, drug dependence, wearing baggy pants - but this is no different to the effects of alcohol.

The problem is not the drug, the problem is people doing thing in extremes.
Injecting speed every night and breaking into houses to fund your addiction = bad.
10 pints of larger every night and coming home to beat your family = bad.
Eating 20kg of potatoes in one day = bad. (potatoes are not bad, but extreme potato eating is bad)

Also, labelling anyone that does hard drugs as a "junkie" or "druggie" is the same as labelling anyone that drinks alcohol as an "alcoholic". We know that having a couple of beers a week does not make one an alcoholic, so why this contiuned insistence on labelling casual drug takers as something worse than what they are?

my $0.02 + GST
stribo
stribo
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31 Oct 2007 5:39pm
LOL supasane
I was going to say something along those lines .
Legalize it!! ALL OF IT!!!
1. takes the criminal element away (no junkies steeling your **** for a fix)(no money in it for the dealers etc.)
2. regulate what goes into the stuff and how much is a safe dose (less o.d's)
3. tax it (money for rehab programs)
4. identify and help problem users
5.cut the massive bill the tax payer foots for drug enforcement.

Just a few good points ..im sure theres more...
DL
DL
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DL DL
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31 Oct 2007 4:49pm
I agree completely.
poor relative
poor relative
WA
9106 posts
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31 Oct 2007 5:09pm
stribo said...

LOL supasane
I was going to say something along those lines .
Legalize it!! ALL OF IT!!!
1. takes the criminal element away (no junkies steeling your **** for a fix)(no money in it for the dealers etc.)
2. regulate what goes into the stuff and how much is a safe dose (less o.d's)
3. tax it (money for rehab programs)
4. identify and help problem users
5.cut the massive bill the tax payer foots for drug enforcement.

Just a few good points ..im sure theres more...


Most sensible thing all thread.

however i think Mr Rudd would loose his race quickly if he introduces a bill legalising all drugs

fullmoon
fullmoon
WA
314 posts
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1 Nov 2007 6:43am
If you want the truth about drugs/alcohol just go down to QE2 or RPH and watch.
I guarentee you wont have to wait long. Its the innocent victims who suffer the most in my opinion,yet NO-ONE ACCEPTS ANY RESPONSIBILITY. When its your family member that dies or is crippled they have to take responsibility for someone
elses mistake .I'm sure the drug user is a nice person with a bright future.SCREW EVERYONE ELSE! After all SUCH IS LIFE.
MintoxGT
MintoxGT
WA
975 posts
WA, 975 posts
1 Nov 2007 6:58pm
Well put Stribo,

Moderation and a sence of awarness before you take anything, tell a mate or 2 what ya doing and what ya taking, if ya feel sick call the ambos, you will be a strain on society but experience is living and they will save you.

Legalise it, legislate it, control it and all of a sudden it aint that much fun to do, if you do use then you will be pretty sure its clean.

Just be careful and because your young dumb and full of c*m, does not mean you are indestructable, I have a guy at work who was on everything for 3 years solid, he managed to get clean and wont touch any mind altering substance legal or illegal, I can tell you it is not worth the risk, he struggles every day with minor tasks, is paranoid, takes things very personally, has fits of rage, self harms, AT WORK!!!! and he has not touched a drug for over 5 years he is 28, you wanna step into my shoes and manage that! He has a heart of gold but there are consequences.

Please be wise for your age and experience everything you need to, just dont get caught whacking off in public

Chill before you drop that pill and fer fooks sake tell someone b4 you do.

Take care and dont cross me on the water coz I will run ya down... Only jokin

Feel the lurve GT

PS Ding a lings do stupid things and dont think of others at all, dont be one!
MintoxGT
MintoxGT
WA
975 posts
WA, 975 posts
1 Nov 2007 7:00pm
fullmoon said...

If you want the truth about drugs/alcohol just go down to QE2 or RPH and watch.
I guarentee you wont have to wait long. Its the innocent victims who suffer the most in my opinion,yet NO-ONE ACCEPTS ANY RESPONSIBILITY. When its your family member that dies or is crippled they have to take responsibility for someone
elses mistake .I'm sure the drug user is a nice person with a bright future.SCREW EVERYONE ELSE! After all SUCH IS LIFE.



Yep, this could go on and on, you are right man!

GT
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