hamburglar said...the gibbo said...
Same old crap
Hamburgular/baba and the like dont you ever ask yourselves the question "what would i do in thier situation?"
"Thier" situations are varied and complex, do you think you would have a grasp on reality, right and wrong if you were brought up in some wartorn sh?thole, or completely opressed, abused all your life. I dont think you would. This does not apply to all immigrants.
The system is totally wrong i agree and what recent happened out of order, they shouldnt be let straight in and thier not. The delays in thier descisions are bull and many immigrants arriving legally or not dont deserve to live here.
What gives you the right to your life anyway, count yourself lucky you were concieved in western society and stop behaving like arrogant pricks.
Would you have the balls to get some rickety peice of sh?t as mentioned before, i think you would if you had absolutly NOTHING to lose.
The world has come a long way in the last few years, not with the attitude of if you dont like it f off, but with understanding, intelegence and compasion.
Hitler comes to mind lacking the former traits.
you have covered some things well But i think you missed my main Point......we have people here that need help and arn't getting it .I'm not anti immagration...
its not my fault there country is wartorn or there government is a bunch of sadists .charity begins at home .
there are correct procedures and channels to get here legally if you don't follow them home you go simple ,then the money can be better spent on resourcing and solving problems we already have here

No it isnt your fault Hamburgar
We have a moral obligation to help anyone genuine, in need(flame away people)
If someone is drowning do they fill out a form to assess whether they are of good enough character to be saved, no.
What you have to realise with most genuine refugees, no access to legal services, probably cant write/read, little or no education at all, they pay money to some exploiting barstards and probably dont even know where there going. They dont even know what proper channels means.
Our standard of living is amazingly high generally, there are lots that slip through the cracks, even with the oppportunities/support that is here. The "problems" we have in this rich and diverse country pale into insignificance with some others.
I completely agree charity begins at home, you cant attempt to help others from a broken society. Ours aint broke, fractured in places, yes.
All my point is to think about it.
I say all this sitting on my computer, in my nice house, i worked very hard for everything i have, i just think some genuine people deserve a chance at the life we hold very dear, even if they are not from here.
There are no excuses for burning stuff down, why do people do that. Maybe they like sleeping in tents.