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doggie
doggie
WA
15849 posts
WA, 15849 posts
30 Sep 2010 4:12pm
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=8096273

IMO its about time that we caught up with the rest of Australia.

What do you think?
busterwa
busterwa
3782 posts
3782 posts
30 Sep 2010 5:09pm
That would make it to easy for people
doggie
doggie
WA
15849 posts
WA, 15849 posts
30 Sep 2010 5:17pm
And there would be more jobs because of the longer hours, good idea IMO
desertyank
desertyank
1264 posts
1264 posts
30 Sep 2010 5:24pm
This caught my curiosity; are any businesses open on sunday now? Restaurants, or fast food types? Just curious, have not heard of this law before.
Gizmo
Gizmo
SA
2865 posts
SA, 2865 posts
30 Sep 2010 6:59pm

I have the opposite opinion, it seems that 7 day trading has MANY pitfalls things like family life, kids sporting events, etc. I believe people only have a certain amount of $$$ to spend, spend in 6 or 7 days its still the same.
The push for 7 day trading normally comes from big business to drive up their share of the market knowingly driving out small family businesses. Often it is said it will give more jobs... wrong they just run on the same staff rostered over the 7 days, and then the companies try to eliminate penalty rates by saying all days are now equal.
You will never see government departments, banks, post offices, etc open 7 days.... why? (They want their family time)

So those living in WA your lucky enjoy the time with your family, your not going to die if you cant get to the shops for 1 day.
spot1
spot1
WA
1588 posts
WA, 1588 posts
30 Sep 2010 5:35pm
24/7 bring it on
KEARNSY
KEARNSY
WA
1322 posts
WA, 1322 posts
30 Sep 2010 5:41pm
Damn it ,,, there goes my excuse for not working overtime cause I need to go to the shops
thommo 000
thommo 000
1670 posts
1670 posts
30 Sep 2010 5:46pm
I`m with Gizmo on this one...get a life
Mister Dugong
Mister Dugong
368 posts
368 posts
30 Sep 2010 6:38pm
Vote 1 Gizmo...

If you've worked hospitality you will know.. over time, penalty rates and special occasions with the family dont exist.. Of course neither do your rights as your employed as a casual..yet you'll do full time hours and work every weekend and public holidays and are expected to fully tow the management line when it beckons.

Of course I realise that it goes with the territory in the above case
....But do you really want to apply that sort of pressure to every other low paid semi skilled person trying to make ends meet for their familys...

Sounds like it would put more pressure on mental health than make good economic sense.

2 cents.
Bigwavedave
Bigwavedave
QLD
2057 posts
QLD, 2057 posts
1 Oct 2010 12:17am
If you value weekends with your families, protest now.

Since QLD got 7 day trading, a weekend when someone isn't working doesn't ever happen.

Penalty rates are under pressure and it's a rare thing for both parents to get to kid's footy at the same time.
Elroy Jetson
Elroy Jetson
WA
706 posts
WA, 706 posts
30 Sep 2010 10:44pm
Good if you, your family, sailing/surfing buddies and friends all don't work in retail.

Also good if you happen to be the owner of a retail business or chain that has employees to work the nightime hours.

mineral1
mineral1
WA
4564 posts
WA, 4564 posts
30 Sep 2010 10:54pm
thommo 000 said...

I`m with Gizmo on this one...get a life



Same here, what a load of bullcrap needing longer retail hours.
Family time V Big Business lobby group with donations to political party organisers. Family group,and society loose every time
If anybody doubts it doesnt happen, then take a look at Clive Palmer from Queensland Coal. Got a $49mil environmental bond lifted from Cape Preston Iron Ore, and who did he subscribe too in the last Sate election campaign with loads of cash. Nationals and Liberal.
Elroy Jetson
Elroy Jetson
WA
706 posts
WA, 706 posts
30 Sep 2010 10:55pm
I always think of the slapstick teen movie 'Mall Rats' when talk of deregulating retail trading hours starts. It was about Teens living out their everyday lives at the same Mall.
Bertie
Bertie
NSW
1351 posts
NSW, 1351 posts
1 Oct 2010 1:29am
if you think our trading hours are rooted try the greek islands.
you have to factor in seista, and then some days they decide not to open back up after siesta. but i'ts almost impossible to work out which days.
Tobacco shops are the only things open on sundays.
Oh then the general strikes need to be considered.

It took me over a month to buy a sim card coz everytime i when to the main town all the shops were closed.

Bring on 24/7!
Pugwash
Pugwash
WA
7733 posts
WA, 7733 posts
1 Oct 2010 12:52am
This puzzles me.

What YOU do is YOUR choice. If WA had longer trading hours, the hours YOU choose to shop (or do what ever it is YOU want to do) are YOUR choice.

If you want to spend time with family, sport etc on the weekend then do so... If someone wants to shop on a weekend, I am not going to tell them they can't. I am also not going to tell people they can't buy fords, or wear flanny, or support collingwood... or breed... It is not my business.

Many against extended hours use arguments about what others are going to do, and what they should be doing instead (i.e. spending time with family)... C'mon, it's not like the Sunday shoppers are masturbating in church! Or, are you more worried about yourself Can't trust yourself not to buy more crap you don't need
Mobydisc
Mobydisc
NSW
9029 posts
NSW, 9029 posts
1 Oct 2010 10:28am
Living in Sydney where most shops are open on Saturday arvo and Sunday plus being old enough to rememberer when this was not so I'm in two minds about extended trading hours. It would be great if there was a bit of time for people to break away from the shops for a while. It seems to be that we are dragged into this work shop consumerist mentality. However I remember when shops shut at noon on Saturday and there was a mad rush to buy enough food for the rest of the weekend.

When in Perth it was quite nice though to have a quiet day on Sunday. But there were some shops open in the town centre. I think that's the best compromise.

It would be interesting to know if shop rents are comparable between shopping centers open on Sunday or not.

Once this is brought In it's never going to be revoked.
Wineman
Wineman
NSW
1412 posts
NSW, 1412 posts
1 Oct 2010 10:34am
thommo 000 said...

I`m with Gizmo on this one...get a life



+1. It does favour big business. In Sydney (had it for ages) Coles & Woolies dominate many sectors of retail, such that they now limit our (the consumer's) choice - particularly with the proliferation of their own home brands.
(they have shareholder to look after, don't they)

Have seen it first hand (as an ex retailer)

You never know, it might lead to diabolical consequences like introduction of daylight saving in WA . We can't have that - it may mean time for a sail after work
j murray
j murray
SA
947 posts
SA, 947 posts
1 Oct 2010 11:20am

Big shopping hours probably help more people to get some work experience

and thus money [job] as retailers need to have more staff to option while the

ones that want to have a day off, with their family's and friends etc do so. This

is creating jobs for boat people other than cabbys . It also

provides entertainment area for skate boarders, and opportunities for robbers

to graba bit of cash, and continue in their chosen car rears
getfunky
getfunky
WA
4485 posts
WA, 4485 posts
1 Oct 2010 9:51am
Chances are those complaining about trading hours have never had to actually work in retail (past the age of 17) or juggled their own study, family, life whilst working odd hours that reatail dictates.

Same for having half day shifts spread over 7 days (coz it suits the multi national boss) just to earn a crust. It aint fun, but hey - who gives a fek about the next bloke right? You've got $$$ to spend and don't care if the overheads from increased wages etc push prices even higher and fek the rest of us. Spend away

Wanna ensure Coles/Woolies get a complete duopoly at last? Then vote for extended trading hours.. but FFS don't whinge about being bent over a barrel by Moles and Foolies later on sheeple.[}:)]



A decent compromise would be to just have Thursday and Friday nights as later opening. 7 days makes no sense and will cost us big-time.


Colonoscopy Barnett wants coz he is being lobbied by the equivilent of Burke/Grills and similar characters of fine stature. There was a referendum (remember?) it didn't get up.. move on.
doggie
doggie
WA
15849 posts
WA, 15849 posts
1 Oct 2010 10:11am
Like daylight saving, I think we should be more inline with the eastern states IMO.

I, like alot of people work from 7.30am - 5pm and I generally eat luch at my desk while I work. To be able to go to the shops between 6 & 7pm every day would be great for me.

+ more hours = more jobs = less unemployment

GypsyDrifter
GypsyDrifter
WA
2371 posts
WA, 2371 posts
1 Oct 2010 11:29am
It does not affect me personally..so at this point I don't care.
I don't shop on a Saturday or a Sunday or Thursday late night..

But what does give me the run's is...
The Extended Trading Hours referendum was a "NO" vote.
So the money spent and the VOTE meant nothing to this idiot
running our state...who also says...James Price Point is just another piece of dirt
that no one care about....


Angry yes. VERY....care about the Extended Trading Hours NO!
The money spent of the referendum YES!!!!!
Ignoring what was voted for...yes!

Well doggie you asked....
doggie
doggie
WA
15849 posts
WA, 15849 posts
1 Oct 2010 11:39am
GypsyDrifter said...

It does not affect me personally..so at this point I don't care.
I don't shop on a Saturday or a Sunday or Thursday late night..

But what does give me the run's is...
The Extended Trading Hours referendum was a "NO" vote.
So the money spent and the VOTE meant nothing to this idiot
running our state...who also says...James Price Point is just another piece of dirt
that no one care about....


Angry yes. VERY....care about the Extended Trading Hours NO!
The money spent of the referendum YES!!!!!
Ignoring what was voted for...yes!

Well doggie you asked....


I did, IMO referendums are a joke anyway. How many did we have to have on DLS and we still dont have it cos people like my bloody Mum & Dad
GD the money wasted on them are nothing compared to how they waste money on other crap!
GypsyDrifter
GypsyDrifter
WA
2371 posts
WA, 2371 posts
1 Oct 2010 12:19pm
I suppose in all reality ...the main issue is...

"MY VOTE DON'T COUNT" grrrrr
doggie
doggie
WA
15849 posts
WA, 15849 posts
1 Oct 2010 12:23pm
GypsyDrifter said...

I suppose in all reality ...the main issue is...

"MY VOTE DON'T COUNT" grrrrr


Yes thats right! I dont think it should be compusary to vote on anything IMO
pepe47
pepe47
WA
1382 posts
WA, 1382 posts
1 Oct 2010 12:37pm
A lot of interesting opinions out there, but after all is said and done it's been voted on. Three times now, like dls...
All you need now is some politician to introduce it for a trial period so HE can shop when it suits him/her.
Diver
Diver
WA
554 posts
WA, 554 posts
1 Oct 2010 12:38pm
I don't think that it is a good idea. Having said that I have occassionally done the weekly shop at Woolies in Freo on Sunday afternoon because I haven't had time to do so during the week / Saturday morning. The convenience factor is there - but be prepared to pay for it.

Extended hours is just an excuse for the big retailers to squeeze out the smaller guy. There doesn't seem to be any competition here in the West, some just expect more of the same, just that you can shop on Sundays.

There was a referendum on this and there was a No vote. I suppose the clown that is running the State will decide that the last daylight saving poll meant nothing as well.

It isn't all about dollars / cents and economic arguments.
dirtyharry
dirtyharry
WA
444 posts
WA, 444 posts
1 Oct 2010 12:39pm
People aren't going to buy more stuff - just will have more time available to buy the same amount of stuff. Result = the smaller, family run businesses get squeezed out , the consumer gets less choice, and the big guys get more market share. Sounds like a bad result to me.
GypsyDrifter
GypsyDrifter
WA
2371 posts
WA, 2371 posts
1 Oct 2010 1:09pm
As my shopping centre is always slow between about 12pm and 3pm
lets close for a siesta and trade late... we use to do that in Broome
doggie
doggie
WA
15849 posts
WA, 15849 posts
1 Oct 2010 1:36pm
dirtyharry said...

People aren't going to buy more stuff - just will have more time available to buy the same amount of stuff. Result = the smaller, family run businesses get squeezed out , the consumer gets less choice, and the big guys get more market share. Sounds like a bad result to me.


I think the small retail shops should have the choice to be open or closed after regular opening times.
dirtyharry
dirtyharry
WA
444 posts
WA, 444 posts
1 Oct 2010 2:52pm
doggie said...

dirtyharry said...

People aren't going to buy more stuff - just will have more time available to buy the same amount of stuff. Result = the smaller, family run businesses get squeezed out , the consumer gets less choice, and the big guys get more market share. Sounds like a bad result to me.


I think the small retail shops should have the choice to be open or closed after regular opening times.


I think you should change your avatar back to the surprised-looking dog!!!
doggie
doggie
WA
15849 posts
WA, 15849 posts
1 Oct 2010 3:35pm
dirtyharry said...

doggie said...

dirtyharry said...

People aren't going to buy more stuff - just will have more time available to buy the same amount of stuff. Result = the smaller, family run businesses get squeezed out , the consumer gets less choice, and the big guys get more market share. Sounds like a bad result to me.


I think the small retail shops should have the choice to be open or closed after regular opening times.


I think you should change your avatar back to the surprised-looking dog!!!



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