Poll - barnets shark control

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evlPanda
evlPanda
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31 Jan 2014 12:02pm
lurch said..

smicko said..

lurch said..

For


This is a vote that grabs my attention and support.

Sorry to point the finger Lurch, hope it doesn't cause **** for you.


Thanks Mick
Being that close for the past two attacks gives me a whole new perspective these days.
just about everyone I surf with down here are all for it.



Can you expand on that?

(PS probably hijacked poll results graph on previous page)
DARTH
DARTH
WA
3028 posts
WA, 3028 posts
31 Jan 2014 9:05am
evlPanda said..

lurch said..

smicko said..

lurch said..

For


This is a vote that grabs my attention and support.

Sorry to point the finger Lurch, hope it doesn't cause **** for you.


Thanks Mick
Being that close for the past two attacks gives me a whole new perspective these days.
just about everyone I surf with down here are all for it.



Can you expand on that?

(PS probably hijacked poll results graph on previous page)


lurch is a ranger. Imo thats a shame.
lurch
lurch
WA
312 posts
WA, 312 posts
31 Jan 2014 12:48pm
DARTH said..

evlPanda said..

lurch said..

smicko said..

lurch said..

For


This is a vote that grabs my attention and support.

Sorry to point the finger Lurch, hope it doesn't cause **** for you.


Thanks Mick
Being that close for the past two attacks gives me a whole new perspective these days.
just about everyone I surf with down here are all for it.



Can you expand on that?

(PS probably hijacked poll results graph on previous page)


lurch is a ranger. Imo thats a shame.


Just got back from a surf at Carpark and it had that real sus feeling about it this morning, maybe I've been reading too many shark threads!
Just to expand, I was at the Wedge attack 20 minutes after it occurred with old nurse Annie and then spent 3 days searching for any remains with no luck. I was at the Lefties attack 45 minutes after it occurred. Both days of the attacks were so similar, 2 foot surf, 100 metres off the beach in 4-5 foot of water and people everywhere. Why are the sharks coming in so close?? These are oceanic predators capable of swimming 1000's of miles not shoreline lurkers. If we take out some off the big guys or maybe old or sick sharks I've got no problem with that and most people down on the Capes have very similar thoughts.
DARTH
DARTH
WA
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31 Jan 2014 1:05pm
lurch said..

DARTH said..

evlPanda said..

lurch said..

smicko said..

lurch said..

For


This is a vote that grabs my attention and support.

Sorry to point the finger Lurch, hope it doesn't cause **** for you.


Thanks Mick
Being that close for the past two attacks gives me a whole new perspective these days.
just about everyone I surf with down here are all for it.



Can you expand on that?

(PS probably hijacked poll results graph on previous page)


lurch is a ranger. Imo thats a shame.


Just got back from a surf at Carpark and it had that real sus feeling about it this morning, maybe I've been reading too many shark threads!
Just to expand, I was at the Wedge attack 20 minutes after it occurred with old nurse Annie and then spent 3 days searching for any remains with no luck. I was at the Lefties attack 45 minutes after it occurred. Both days of the attacks were so similar, 2 foot surf, 100 metres off the beach in 4-5 foot of water and people everywhere. Why are the sharks coming in so close?? These are oceanic predators capable of swimming 1000's of miles not shoreline lurkers. If we take out some off the big guys or maybe old or sick sharks I've got no problem with that and most people down on the Capes have very similar thoughts.


That I can agree with..
DARTH
DARTH
WA
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MDSXR6T
MDSXR6T
WA
1019 posts
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31 Jan 2014 2:41pm
At 1m long it'd probably be around 8-12months old and 1 of 40 odd pups born. Its a bit worrying possibly having 30 more 3m+ tigers reproducing off WA. Colin has done the right thing.
DARTH
DARTH
WA
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31 Jan 2014 2:49pm
MDSXR6T said..

At 1m long it'd probably be around 8-12months old and 1 of 40 odd pups born. Its a bit worrying possibly having 30 more 3m+ tigers reproducing off WA. Colin has done the right thing.


Last time there was a fatal tiger shark attack??
MDSXR6T
MDSXR6T
WA
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WA, 1019 posts
31 Jan 2014 2:58pm
Heh, who knows really. 13 tiger shark attacks in hawaiian waters in 2013, one over east recently. Possible unidentified attacks in wa. Some fatal some not but if my german shepherd bit your leg and you survived you'd want him destroyed even if he mistook your leg for his squeeky toy!

I've seen big tigers first hand at places like the montebellos and they really arent the friendliest of creatures
DARTH
DARTH
WA
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WA, 3028 posts
31 Jan 2014 3:02pm
MDSXR6T said..

Heh, who knows really. 13 tiger shark attacks in hawaiian waters in 2013, one over east recently.

I've seen big tigers first hand at places like the montebellos and they really arent the friendliest of creatures


Not saying they wouldnt but over we dont get attacks by them here so why target them. Attacks and not fatalitys.

Last time I checked pipeline isnt near trigg point........

MDSXR6T
MDSXR6T
WA
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31 Jan 2014 3:09pm
Didnt a bloke over east get killed by a tiger late last year?

A tiger shark is a tiger shark no matter what ocean, estuary or river they swim in. They will still attack a human being.
DARTH
DARTH
WA
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31 Jan 2014 3:14pm
MDSXR6T said..

Didnt a bloke over east get killed by a tiger late last year?

A tiger shark is a tiger shark no matter what ocean, estuary or river they swim in. They will still attack a human being.


So just kill them all then , I didnt hear about anyone getting killed by a tiger shark last year. Do you have a link??
MDSXR6T
MDSXR6T
WA
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31 Jan 2014 3:18pm
I cant link off my phone but google Zac Young. Boadyboarder off port mac 2 months ago.

DARTH
DARTH
WA
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31 Jan 2014 3:22pm
MDSXR6T said..

I cant link off my phone but google Zac Young. Boadyboarder off port mac 2 months ago.



Fine but we are talking about WA here. How many fatalitys have been tiger sharks in WA?
Gradient
Gradient
WA
87 posts
WA, 87 posts
31 Jan 2014 3:58pm
Against!
I'm also very surprised with the result. I guess everyones connection to the ocean differs but I would've thought most fellow ocean users appreciate getting out in one of the few remaining wild places where things are still in balance (more or less) and there is an element of rawness. The idea of sanitising our local waters to make it a safe playground is pretty sad, as is the pointless killing of marine life that in no way poses a threat. Above all my biggest issue with the drum lines is that it won't work and will in fact bring more sharks closer in that would normally stay offshore. Fisheries themselves commissioned a study and the result was they recommended against the use of drum lines. Forget all the hippie tree hugging bull.... marine scientists everywhere are saying the same thing. I was at Mulluloo this morning when they dropped the first lines there, I spoke to quite a few random folks and they were all dead against this so I guess this poll is in no way balanced towards what your average ocean user thinks about the issue.
ausiet
ausiet
WA
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WA, 63 posts
31 Jan 2014 4:09pm
For!
DARTH
DARTH
WA
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31 Jan 2014 4:13pm
Gradient said..

Against!
I'm also very surprised with the result. I guess everyones connection to the ocean differs but I would've thought most fellow ocean users appreciate getting out in one of the few remaining wild places where things are still in balance (more or less) and there is an element of rawness. The idea of sanitising our local waters to make it a safe playground is pretty sad, as is the pointless killing of marine life that in no way poses a threat. Above all my biggest issue with the drum lines is that it won't work and will in fact bring more sharks closer in that would normally stay offshore. Fisheries themselves commissioned a study and the result was they recommended against the use of drum lines. Forget all the hippie tree hugging bull.... marine scientists everywhere are saying the same thing. I was at Mulluloo this morning when they dropped the first lines there, I spoke to quite a few random folks and they were all dead against this so I guess this poll is in no way balanced towards what your average ocean user thinks about the issue.


Well said.

If you go fishing, you will catch one -

www.news.com.au/national/western-australia/two-sharks-caught-just-hours-after-baited-drumlines-are-set-off-metropolitan-perth/news-story/010e0af46d9405563e5ff788954dd597

or two..
Ian K
Ian K
WA
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31 Jan 2014 4:19pm
MDSXR6T said..

Heh, who knows really. 13 tiger shark attacks in hawaiian waters in 2013, one over east recently. Possible unidentified attacks in wa. Some fatal some not but if my german shepherd bit your leg and you survived you'd want him destroyed even if he mistook your leg for his squeeky toy!

I've seen big tigers first hand at places like the montebellos and they really arent the friendliest of creatures


Not a good analogy, German Shepherds are not endangered. They are nicely domestic because we've continually culled out the snappy ones. On the other hand the non-domesticated strain of the species has been re-introduced to Yellowstone National Park, which had lacked an apex predator, with spectacular, cascading benefits to the waning ecosystem. If one of the wolves at Yellowstone did bite someone on the leg you can be sure there wouldn't be an an indiscriminate cull.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolf_reintroduction
Woodo
Woodo
WA
792 posts
WA, 792 posts
31 Jan 2014 4:24pm
DARTH said...
MDSXR6T said..

Didnt a bloke over east get killed by a tiger late last year?

A tiger shark is a tiger shark no matter what ocean, estuary or river they swim in. They will still attack a human being.


So just kill them all then , I didnt hear about anyone getting killed by a tiger shark last year. Do you have a link??

Cause that's what we're going to do. "Kill them all" Typical response from the anticull. Nice one Jb, I mean darth.
DARTH
DARTH
WA
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31 Jan 2014 4:27pm
Woodo said..

DARTH said...
MDSXR6T said..

Didnt a bloke over east get killed by a tiger late last year?

A tiger shark is a tiger shark no matter what ocean, estuary or river they swim in. They will still attack a human being.


So just kill them all then , I didnt hear about anyone getting killed by a tiger shark last year. Do you have a link??

Cause that's what we're going to do. "Kill them all" Typical response from the anticull. Nice one Jb, I mean darth.


So far they have caught two small tiger sharks, Im sure they wont kill them all but Im sure Im not the only one to see this is a waste of tax payer money.

Above all my biggest issue with the drum lines is that it won't work and will in fact bring more sharks closer in that would normally stay offshore.
Woodo
Woodo
WA
792 posts
WA, 792 posts
31 Jan 2014 4:32pm
They're already in close. If anything the drums will draw them out.
4m white 60m off city beach last weekend incase you hadn't heard.
Anyhow drums are in. I'm happy. Lets keep this thread a poll. Not another 24 pages of repetitive dribble.
DARTH
DARTH
WA
3028 posts
WA, 3028 posts
31 Jan 2014 4:40pm
Woodo said..

They're already in close. If anything the drums will draw them out.
4m white 60m off city beach last weekend incase you hadn't heard.
Anyhow drums are in. I'm happy. Lets keep this thread a poll. Not another 24 pages of repetitive dribble.


As long as you are happy mate thats all that counts.......
pweedas
pweedas
WA
4642 posts
WA, 4642 posts
31 Jan 2014 4:40pm
Woodo said..
Lets keep this thread a poll. Not another 24 pages of repetitive dribble.


yes!
Lots of comments here that could be expanded on if people want but there are numerous other shark threads here.
Why stuff up this one with stuff that can be said on any of the others.
DARTH
DARTH
WA
3028 posts
WA, 3028 posts
31 Jan 2014 4:44pm
pweedas said..

Woodo said..
Lets keep this thread a poll. Not another 24 pages of repetitive dribble.


yes!
Lots of comments here that could be expanded on if people want but there are numerous other shark threads here.
Why stuff up this one with stuff that can be said on any of the others.


Who cares thses threads dont do anything except divide people opinions.

Kill sharks, thats what you want and now you have it.

Pweedy Im amazed that you give a toss as you decend into the ****ty years.....
Jonopark
Jonopark
WA
400 posts
WA, 400 posts
31 Jan 2014 4:55pm
Its simply for or against, dont clog up the thread ****ers!
FOR BTW
Oldmate78
Oldmate78
172 posts
172 posts
31 Jan 2014 5:43pm
DARTH said...
pweedas said..

Woodo said..
Lets keep this thread a poll. Not another 24 pages of repetitive dribble.


yes!
Lots of comments here that could be expanded on if people want but there are numerous other shark threads here.
Why stuff up this one with stuff that can be said on any of the others.


Who cares thses threads dont do anything except divide people opinions.

Kill sharks, thats what you want and now you have it.

Pweedy Im amazed that you give a toss as you decend into the ****ty years.....


Yet you still comment in them....lets keep it to a simple yes or no otherwise it will be to hard to tally the votes at the end of the week
southace
southace
SA
4803 posts
SA, 4803 posts
31 Jan 2014 8:21pm
You just need to count the WA surfers (and minus surfers over 40s) and then count the rest of Australia and that will answer Your poll. Haha
jbshack
jbshack
WA
6913 posts
WA, 6913 posts
31 Jan 2014 6:21pm
evlPanda said..







Someone was busy around 6pm EDST last night.




(Google Docs don't collect IP using a GUI made in Visual Basic)



That would have been me I wanted to check if you could vote more than once, as often is the case, because if you can it can't be trusted. I then added a few votes and thought id throw it up for a laugh, but i remembered not many have my sense of humor and just moved on..Sorry.

Sadly there is now too many non vote replies. But i concede defeat and i will say i am generally surprised..
JacobMatan
JacobMatan
WA
431 posts
WA, 431 posts
31 Jan 2014 8:42pm
I think shark attacks are a real problem in WA

I also think sharks have a right to live freely in their own environment

I also think we should ban picket fences as they are too uncomfortable to sit on

Just jokes, For!
pweedas
pweedas
WA
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31 Jan 2014 11:04pm
DARTH said..
Pweedy Im amazed that you give a toss as you decend into the ****ty years.....


Then continue to be amazed.
I've spent the last 15 year restoring 500 acres of farmland back to natural bushland, all at my own time and expense.
I'm well aware that the earth needs more restoration but it wont happen if we put everyone offside by having wildlife feasting on people, be it tiger snakes, kangaroos, magpies or sharks.
Whatever the result is, it has to be people friendly or it wont happen.

I vote yes. (oh wait,.. I think I've already voted,.. or did I just think I did?,.. or was I just dreaming,.?.was I getting into the bath or out of the bath,? ..what did you say??.something about floss was it,.? yes I floss. . )
pweedas
pweedas
WA
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WA, 4642 posts
31 Jan 2014 11:18pm
results up to here;-
Page one ..........,12 for : 12 against
Page two ........., 22 for : 2 against
Page three ,....... 15 for : 1 against.
Page 4 , to here .. 2 for: 1 against
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Total ..... . . . . . . 51 for : 16 against.

approx one in four against the targeted cull. Three out of four agree.
And yet almost all the noise is anti cull. I wonder what that means?

Only 3 votes on page 4 and the page is nearly finished.

evilpanda,.. nice graph but are you going to vote?
$20 fine if you don't.

I hope you're not just waiting to see which side wins so you can vote with the side which wins!!!
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