Violence , my two bobs worth

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Cassa
Cassa
WA
1305 posts
WA, 1305 posts
18 Mar 2009 7:23pm
While we are all dicussing the attacks on our police force , I agree ,with all comments regarding this unbelievable verdict, they should be JAILED...
But I think the mandatory sentancing laws being put before parliment should include Attacks or act of violence towards ANYONE.. I think the police have a difficult job to do , especially with all the alcohol , and drug flooked idiots out there.... Send those who commit a violent act against anyone , to the can, stack them in 2s, 3s even 4 to a cell , we dont need these scum in our world, having worked in the prison system years ago , I have seen how good they get life in there.... Lets rack -em and stack-em in the can ,,..... we dont need them in our society.
I feel for those women and men whose partners work in the police force, waiting for them to come home safe must be hell.
Wannabe
Wannabe
NSW
148 posts
NSW, 148 posts
18 Mar 2009 9:57pm
Hypothetical situation... You're in a public place, almost no one else around, reasonably late at night. You look around and see a man physically abusing his girlfriend/partner.
Do you:
a) turn the other cheek
b) try to do your best to do something about it... you realise that this will more than likely mean that you may get hit yourself. Obviously it they do, your not going to cower in the corner, your probably going to hit the guy back. But wait, if you get your way that would mean prison.
surfingboye
surfingboye
NSW
2707 posts
NSW, 2707 posts
18 Mar 2009 10:26pm
knock the chicks lights out then p1ssbolt.
busterwa
busterwa
3782 posts
3782 posts
18 Mar 2009 8:28pm
i believe the cassa
most fights i see are kids just out of school because they are allowed to do it at school a young age they think they can get away with it
when these kids get into the big bad world they often think there back at school.
as for the hypothetical question
www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=47788
i have been in that situation before mabe not a chick but another living creature
KEARNSY
KEARNSY
WA
1322 posts
WA, 1322 posts
18 Mar 2009 8:31pm
As we have come to learn from last weeks events , It is a fine line between Using force to hurt someone and self defence. And at which point do you cross the line in self defence??? Would you be allowd to hit back or just keep "blocking" if you were under attack?
We all have different judjements on when force is needed.
Im not sure Jail is the answer for EVERY violent offender. It costs US- the taxpayers.
Definatley jail for seriouse offenders .

I Know what Id like to suggest but that punishment is only available in some states in the U.S.

Its a fine line!!!!

Bertie
Bertie
NSW
1351 posts
NSW, 1351 posts
18 Mar 2009 10:50pm
Wannabe said...

Hypothetical situation... You're in a public place, almost no one else around, reasonably late at night. You look around and see a man physically abusing his girlfriend/partner.
Do you:
a) turn the other cheek
b) try to do your best to do something about it... you realise that this will more than likely mean that you may get hit yourself. Obviously it they do, your not going to cower in the corner, your probably going to hit the guy back. But wait, if you get your way that would mean prison.



My mate picked option b. Then a goup of other blokes got out of a car and re-aranged his face, in particular kicking him in the face while he was down. He ended up with a broken jaw, many missing teeth and some psychological problems he wont admit to.
To top it off the cops did **** all and the chick was gettin slapped about for a $100 drug debt.
As you can see sometimes it aint worth getting involved in other peoples affairs coz sometimes they deserve it.
It has made me re-think this kind of hypothetical and how i'd respond.
Cassa
Cassa
WA
1305 posts
WA, 1305 posts
18 Mar 2009 9:37pm
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, surfingboye , your comments are not worthy of a reply
Mark _australia
Mark _australia
WA
23684 posts
WA, 23684 posts
18 Mar 2009 10:31pm
Wannabe said...

Hypothetical situation... You're in a public place, almost no one else around, reasonably late at night. You look around and see a man physically abusing his girlfriend/partner.
Do you:
a) turn the other cheek
b) try to do your best to do something about it... you realise that this will more than likely mean that you may get hit yourself. Obviously it they do, your not going to cower in the corner, your probably going to hit the guy back. But wait, if you get your way that would mean prison.


For God's sake where do you people get this crap from?

Wannabe (lawyer?): If you are acting in the defence of another it is lawful. Therefore you would not go to prison.

You have the same powers as Police, if you see somebody hitting somebody you can drag them off and if they hit you you can hit back. It is not adviseable cos you can end up in a situation like Bertie describes.
Ill advised conjecture like Wannabe's post leads people to believe some pretty weird sh!t and oppose the GOOD new laws that are being proposed now.
busterwa
busterwa
3782 posts
3782 posts
18 Mar 2009 11:11pm
i reckon if she is dumb enough to go out with a viloent dip**** well she deserves a flogging
if she was hot id think well u should of chose to be with an outstanding aussie mandette like myself who would give u flowers insted of a punch in the head

top tip ...
NEVER EVER get caught up in other peoples disputes allways walk away or keep away use ur phone to take photos

call the cops and they will take the flogging for you that what service they provide and i support the new laws fully as im not a criminal or young and dumb
i bet if the laws were introduced

now people will be usisn the excuse and pleading insanity to get out of the charges or someother loophole
firiebob
firiebob
WA
3182 posts
WA, 3182 posts
19 Mar 2009 12:41pm
Please don't walk away.

I've interfered a few times and it has worked out well so far. But I have been scared s**tless a couple of times.
vermanator
vermanator
QLD
3 posts
QLD, 3 posts
19 Mar 2009 3:16pm
In answer to your hypothetical question, the law states that you have a duty of care to provide assistance to anyone being attacked, or you beleive the situation to be life threating it also states that in providing that assistance should you injure anyone you could be charged with assult yourself,( if there are any eye witnesses,) dammed if you do dammed if you dont, what to do? dont know about you, but if i was to see some scumbag beating the crap out of a woman i would allow him the same feeling as he did her, the feeling of having a bigger animal hand out the same to him,from my experience most of these dipsticks that beat up girls are usually girls themselves. good luck deceiding what your going to do [}:)]
Wannabe said...

Hypothetical situation... You're in a public place, almost no one else around, reasonably late at night. You look around and see a man physically abusing his girlfriend/partner.
Do you:
a) turn the other cheek
b) try to do your best to do something about it... you realise that this will more than likely mean that you may get hit yourself. Obviously it they do, your not going to cower in the corner, your probably going to hit the guy back. But wait, if you get your way that would mean prison.


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