journals.lww.com/americantherapeutics/abstract/9000/ivermectin_for_prevention_and_treatment_of.98040.aspx

open.spotify.com/episode/7uVXKgE6eLJKMXkETwcw0D?si=xeYsj63eRHKBqsedtE4dfA&context=spotify%3Ashow%3A4rOoJ6Egrf8K2IrywzwOMk&dl_branch=1


censorship, misinformation, disinformation.

kato said..
Hey...have you now given up on testing us Vico's and moved on to the pesky Sydneyites. Or too busy avoiding lockdowns

Victorians need to learn not to lick everything. I find their hygiene habits abhorrent. It's no wonder they continue to let down our great nation in this big fight.

Have you watched and listened to the podcast above. I suggest you do.

IanR said..
I assume you are talking to me eppo
Yes I started to listen to it till I realised that Dr Pierre Kory is the President of the FLCCC so I decided that there would be no further information as I have already read the full report from Yarpie's link and I don't have 3 hours to waste on this.
Ivermectin may well help people how have Covid-19 and I will wait for the Oxford Study before I fully support it's use
I do look at what has happened in Brazil where these drugs have been supported by the medical community there and think half a million dead Brazilian's might not think it is the miracle drug you and Yarpie make it to be. Have you read the the npr link I posted on page 4

If only half a million Brazil nuts died, then it is a miracle, because in a normal year they lose way more than double that

myscreenname said..

kato said..
Hey...have you now given up on testing us Vico's and moved on to the pesky Sydneyites. Or too busy avoiding lockdowns

Victorians need to learn not to lick everything. I find their hygiene habits abhorrent. It's no wonder they continue to let down our great nation in this big fight.

You're funny , I just hate everyone and don't discriminate... unless I meet them

kato said..

myscreenname said..

kato said..
Hey...have you now given up on testing us Vico's and moved on to the pesky Sydneyites. Or too busy avoiding lockdowns

Victorians need to learn not to lick everything. I find their hygiene habits abhorrent. It's no wonder they continue to let down our great nation in this big fight.

You're funny , I just hate everyone and don't discriminate... unless I meet them

"msn" is just worried that he has to go back to the licking himself. He has previously mentioned that he loves the boss/employee relationship and wishes it to continue

Ps to add if you actually listened to it.
Meta data analyses shows this drug can reduce the contraction of actual COVID by 86 percent with a 1 -2 percent degree of error in the analysis.



large scale population application in Mexico (hence why they were out of control lock downs, India (parts that used it eradicated it, parts that didn't the curve just kept rising) and other smaller parts of the world.



the very guy who invented the MRNA vaccine (or someone important in its development?) has now (just recently - didn't agree until he closely looked at all the data) agreed with Brett that this drug could eradicate COVID and has actually sent him curves (did his own analyses) to show what rates of uptake would make this happen.



and there are plenty of other peices of information. This is not tin foil hat conspiracy this is just good math and science.

And there's no money in being right for these guys.

again I strongly suggest anyone whose genuinely interested in this subject listen to this regardless of your current viewpoint.

NSW Gov has mandated the COVID vaccination for anyone providing services at their airports as of today.

kiterboy said..

FormulaNova said..
Your version of coherent, or a rational person's? By all means, if there is anything that confuses you, please ask. I can explain things.

You way over estimate your ability. All these blocks of text you keep posting and you can't follow any rational thread of logic, much less explain anything.

FormulaNova said..
To save a bit of time; you are suggesting that someone is using the general population is guinea pigs. This has to happen with all vaccines as there just hasn't been any time to have years of clinical trials with controls, in order to understand the effects of the various vaccines.

It's not a suggestion, it is absolute fact.
But you're right, we should do away with clinical trials for everything where time is of the essence for people afflicted.
Think of all the experimentation on the general population that could be done by trialing unproven treatments with no long term health data for cancer, HIV, leukemia...

FormulaNova said..
Can you think of any other option? I can't.

Well that's obvious.

FormulaNova said..
If I were in my 80s...

You mean you're not??! Wow, you sure sound like it, I was going to congratulate you on being able to use a computer at your age.
Still though, give your ineptness at being able to follow logic, congrats are still in order.

Oh hang on, I will wait a few days and come back with an outstanding reply, and argue different points all over the place. Maybe you understand that sort of response?

I hope that when I get to my 80s I don't end up with logic like yours. You hear about all these old people with strong biased opinions independent of fact, but no one actually wants to be one. Then again, people don't generally change as they get older, so you are stuffed.

Great article on the suppression of ivermectin.

It's refreshing to see the prediction I made here in April last year, when the mortality statistics dwindled to be replaced by cases, that the integrity of doctors would shine the light of truth on Covid.And they have.

The FLCCC initially consisted of a small group of men who would not a follow the WHO advice which was basically wait until you turn blue then present to hospital. They knew from experience that is critical to treat illness as soon as possible and between them they, and many others, have saved more than a shipload of lives.

The PCR test has been ruled unfit for use in three European court cases already. There is a fourth in the offing which is a pinion for the Fuelmich initiative. And they will win.

Only then will we return to normal

www.lifesitenews.com/news/prominent-physicians-scientists-believe-u.s-doctors-group-deserves-nobel-prize-for-finding-most-powerful-covid-19-killer-known-to-science

It seems the FLCCC is not anti vaccination. They see ivermectin has a precursor to reducing the chance of getting COVID, treating it in the early stages along with some other drug protocols and lastly to help patients with long COVID.



Meaning that ultimately this should alongside the vaccine or at the very least look at the meta data analysis that os showing almost conclusive proof that this simple and very cheap drug works. Or even at a bare minimum allow a free and non cencored debate on it. They also have some serious doubts on the use of the inflammatory spike protein to make the vaccine and there is growing evidence this could be the cause long COVID. It's a strong suspicion at any rate




regardless of what's what, it's got to be debated, discussed, looked into - but it's not. These regulatory bodies are prone to capture and continually keep getting it wrong - trying to control the narrative before during and after their edicts are time and time again wrong


And when did YouTube and the other big social media dogs become the utopia of medical science now deciding what should be heard and what not, censoring any opinion outside what these reg bodies proclaim as correct



and why does their decisions always involve a bucket load of money needing to be spent on specific areas that all seem to have commercial interest involved

and why do some idiots on here think that is all fine and dandy whilst regurgitating mainstream crap that a 12 ur old could dig up because for some reason it's not censored and is near the top of every search you make on a topic funny that

man that is a recipe for corruption and distortion.

The FLCCC a non for profit organisation of like minded medical scientist (of whom a lot of them are at the pinnacle of their game) - it ain't big pharma, so to those that have a problem with them asking for philanthropic donations - I would say you can't quite comprehend what they and others like them are doing.

IanR said..
Yarpie
When you click on the link you provided you get to a blank page
This is because the study was retracted by the authors due to data integrity issues in June 2020
I feel this will only reinforce you belief in a conspiracy but if you would like to read more about it read the link below it also references the other studies that show the malaria drugs don't work

www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/06/two-elite-medical-journals-retract-coronavirus-papers-over-data-integrity-questions
Have you got any other irrefutable evidence

eppo
Love the Wizard of Oz reference, if I'm Dorothy are you The Scarecrow or do you see yourself as the Wizard

Chris Whitty gave the order to give alleged Covid-19 patients lethal doses of Hydroxychloroquine to both kill them and sabotage trials
dailyexpose.co.uk/

psychojoe said..

psychojoe said..
People keep bringing up 3,000 Covid deaths per day in India. So that takes it from 50,000 to 53,000 all cause daily mortality. Will it be all over the news in a couple of months when their daily toll drops to 47,000. It didn't make the news when it happened in Sweden, six months into the pandemic they were seeing their lowest daily all cause mortality rates in over a decade. I'll stop now before it becomes a HW rant.

Like a ****ing clairvoyant.
Did anyone see on tonights news that Covid deaths in India have dropped by 3,000 per day...
No....no.

Okay, so what is the reason that they are dropping Mr clairvoyant?

Is it better treatment? Is it because the most vulnerable died early? Is it because of changes in the virus? Is it vaccination? Under-reporting by a government keen on showing it is getting on top of it?

What is it? Predicting something is good, but help us understand why.

eppo said..

IanR said..
I assume you are talking to me eppo
Yes I started to listen to it till I realised that Dr Pierre Kory is the President of the FLCCC so I decided that there would be no further information as I have already read the full report from Yarpie's link and I don't have 3 hours to waste on this.
Ivermectin may well help people how have Covid-19 and I will wait for the Oxford Study before I fully support it's use
I do look at what has happened in Brazil where these drugs have been supported by the medical community there and think half a million dead Brazilian's might not think it is the miracle drug you and Yarpie make it to be. Have you read the the npr link I posted on page 4

I found the explanation of meta data analyses versus large scale random trials (which the narrative purports that this is the only trial that should be accepted) very interesting.

I Suppose the reason I asked you to listen was not the specifics of this particular drug discussion, but as an example of the influence of big pharma and governments regulatory bodies (including WHO) on information or More to the point mis to the point of disinformation.

No money in a non patented drug that has been used as avery successful anti viral drug by many millions of people over 3-4 decades.
That being said this is the very thing that produces incentive to create new treatments (such as the vaccine) so like anything it's a two edged sword.



Brett Weinstein is a very clever duck and his logical and measured conclusion (based on meta data analyses) on this drug and the control of the narrative through our so called expert bodies was compelling. Also the control of the narrative through limiting other points of view through censorship.



It seems to me you have made up your mind of what sources you will listen/ read to and hence dismiss quickly other sources. You then produce so callled "evidence" from sources that match your predisposition to counter other ones given of which are predominantly from the mainstream machine and it's controlling interest


that is a dangerous path to self inflicted ignorance I'm afraid.

Brilliant podcast in my estimation. Brilliantly balanced commentary by Bret Weinstein. I have already watched many of Pierre Kory's fight back against the machine interviews. These guys and many more like them are systematically unravelling the narrative.

Heres a bit of interesting info. www.rt.com/op-ed/507937-covid-pcr-test-fail/