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nightmonkey
nightmonkey
WA
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14 May 2012 9:46pm
Smokers are a dying breed. If they wanna burn there hard earned money on getting cancer. Go for it. It'll only help clear the line up as they get older :-)
busterwa
busterwa
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14 May 2012 10:08pm
In my trade (heavy industry) there is alot of people who smoke there is also alot of people who are ****en lazy. .Lets not be judgmental or confuse the two. Just cause your sitting in an orifice on a computer earning **** money .

Tell us your gross earning and ill tell you how smart smokers are.

Go talk **** about football for half an hour.
felixdcat
felixdcat
WA
3519 posts
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15 May 2012 10:49am
busterwa said...

In my trade (heavy industry) there is alot of people who smoke there is also alot of people who are ****en lazy. .Lets not be judgmental or confuse the two. Just cause your sitting in an orifice on a computer earning **** money .

Tell us your gross earning and ill tell you how smart smokers are.

Go talk **** about football for half an hour.


????? 165K not smoking!!!!!!

jamdfingr
jamdfingr
QLD
663 posts
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15 May 2012 1:12pm
85K Non Smoker....

I agree with their freedom of choice... but I disagree that they then get tax payer funded medical assistance when they knowingly ingest these toxins. (I understand for people who have smoked for more than 10 years as it is an addiction)

If you have ever spent time with someone going through cancer (lung, bowel, prostate) then you would try to remove any chance that you would ever get this illness.....

I dont understand why kids still smoke today....



An interesting fact I heard... and Im not saying this in a judgemental way....

95% of people who have mental health issues... are smokers....

This is from a South Australian Health Professional who works in Communtiy Health....

Just an interesting statistic.... I didnt think it would be that high....
Trant
Trant
NSW
601 posts
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15 May 2012 1:43pm
jamdfingr said...
An interesting fact I heard... and Im not saying this in a judgemental way....

95% of people who have mental health issues... are smokers....

This is from a South Australian Health Professional who works in Communtiy Health....


Non-smoker here and I thought that sounded a bit high

www.tobaccoinaustralia.org.au/chapter-1-prevalence/1-10-prevalence-of-smoking-in-other-high-risk-sub-
Among mentally ill in-patients with co-existing alcohol and other drug problems, smoking rates as high as 90% have been observed


So 90% of a small sub-sector of the mentally ill smoke.


Trant
Trant
NSW
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15 May 2012 1:45pm
I don't care if you smoke, but I thought it was healthy to take a 5 minute break every hour.
I know I do (and I don't smoke)

Sailhack
Sailhack
VIC
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15 May 2012 1:59pm
jamdfingr said...

I dont understand why kids still smoke today....

Me neither...I guess it's a peer/coolness issue with kids (still). Also, when you're a kid, coolness rates so much higher than mortality & health.


95% of people who have mental health issues... are smokers....


Maybe it's because they have a mental health issue that they either 'need' or 'choose' to smoke? Although I'm a NS, I think that may have bias written all over it?
stuk
stuk
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15 May 2012 2:20pm
They dont call them f*gs for nutin
jamdfingr
jamdfingr
QLD
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15 May 2012 2:22pm
Sorry, I got the figure wrong.

As I said, I had heard it second hand from someone else but as the bloke above mentioned, it is around 90% which I still find quite high.

I am not trying to make any points by it but simply found that it was a statistic that is staggering.

Generally, you would assume that this is due to the reason that people with mental health issues can be prone to addictive behaviours such as smoking and cannot excert the same level of self control as other people within the population.

This is the reason why government provides assistance to those people who wish to give up smoking because breaking the addiction is difficult for most people let alone putting mental health issues into the mix.

For the comment about breaks, you are far more productive when you do take regular breaks and allow your mind to relax and go again. Like any muscle, continuous use over long periods leads to fatigue and exhaustion. Doesnt really matter if you smoke on those breaks or post comments on seabreeze (...guilty...), taking a short break enables you to focus and produce better results while at work.
RPM
RPM
WA
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15 May 2012 12:42pm
poor relative said...

Smokers should be denied access to medical services until they give up.
/discuss


Same as asylum seekers..

discuss also
poor relative
poor relative
WA
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15 May 2012 1:35pm
cisco said...


You are such a sanctimonious prick pr.




LOL

Glad i got under your skin.

I really do hope that i never ever think like you behave like you or have anything that remotely reminds people of you in any shape or form.
Indeed i find you quite ithyphallic.
doggie
doggie
WA
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15 May 2012 1:53pm
poor relative said...

cisco said...


You are such a sanctimonious prick pr.




LOL

Glad i got under your skin.

I really do hope that i never ever think like you behave like you or have anything that remotely reminds people of you in any shape or form.
Indeed i find you quite ithyphallic.



What is ithyphallic?
Trant
Trant
NSW
601 posts
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15 May 2012 3:58pm
jamdfingr said...
Generally, you would assume that this is due to the reason that people with mental health issues can be prone to addictive behaviours such as smoking and cannot excert the same level of self control as other people within the population.


Personally I thought it was because of the "co-existing alcohol and other drug problems" rather than the mental illness. Shrug.

The same report shows:
"35% among patients suffering from common mental disorders"

Is that higher than the norm?
Trant
Trant
NSW
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15 May 2012 3:59pm
doggie said...
What is ithyphallic?


From the cartoonus period I believe.


poor relative
poor relative
WA
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15 May 2012 2:01pm
doggie said...


What is ithyphallic?


It is a polite way of saying you're a dick
doggie
doggie
WA
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15 May 2012 2:07pm
poor relative said...

doggie said...


What is ithyphallic?


It is a polite way of saying you're a dick


HAHAHAHAHA

Easier to say d!ck
jamdfingr
jamdfingr
QLD
663 posts
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15 May 2012 5:45pm
Wouldnt that be Quasi-Phallic? as in only a part time d!ck?

Or it could be Perma-Phallic... as in a full time d!ck!

Im not calling anyone a Phallic... just providing further ammo for the discussion....
jamdfingr
jamdfingr
QLD
663 posts
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15 May 2012 5:46pm
If he was an ithyphallic... pronounced ( I-Thee-Fallick ) would that make him a self righteous d!ck?
cisco
cisco
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16 May 2012 7:10pm
poor relative said...

cisco said...
You are such a sanctimonious prick pr.


LOL

Glad i got under your skin.

I really do hope that i never ever think like you behave like you or have anything that remotely reminds people of you in any shape or form.
Indeed i find you quite ithyphallic.



I find you quite psychophallic. (Into brain phucking)

You will have no luck here. My chastity belt keeps me free.

pierrec45
pierrec45
NSW
2005 posts
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3 Jul 2012 10:14pm
We (I, really) let go of someone just last week - towards end of probation.

Smoking and all the time taken for it was a big factor, not that we told him.
He took between 10-15+ minutes per hour to go for a smoke. Plus could not sustain training and long meetings.

Otherwise an OK worker, my research says.

As to the argument that other workers do Twitter and surf on working hours or are lazy: true that, but it's an everything-else-being-equal argument.
fingerbone
fingerbone
NSW
921 posts
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5 Jul 2012 5:23pm
Who will pay the extra tax if everyone gives up smoking.
doggie
doggie
WA
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5 Jul 2012 4:02pm
fingerbone said...

Who will pay the extra tax if everyone gives up smoking.


GST?
felixdcat
felixdcat
WA
3519 posts
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5 Jul 2012 5:02pm
Is there carbon tax on death sticks?
doggie
doggie
WA
15849 posts
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5 Jul 2012 5:04pm
felixdcat said...

Is there carbon tax on death sticks?


Na just heaps of tax, in Indo you can buy a pack for $4 I think. I dont smoke so that may not be right but they are very cheap up there.
Little Jon
Little Jon
NSW
2115 posts
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5 Jul 2012 8:41pm
how about dening medical treatment for someone silly enough to get injured windsurfing or driving a car
fingerbone
fingerbone
NSW
921 posts
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5 Jul 2012 9:01pm
If the Gov was serious about it they would ban them
Smokes are legal and until they are not there should be no discrimination toward people who choose to partake.
Complaints about smokers breath is a common complaint
I choose to complain about Garlic Breath and BO
Little Jon
Little Jon
NSW
2115 posts
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5 Jul 2012 11:27pm
Why not raise the legal age by one year, every year. Existings smokers could still smoke but that will be the last geneeration that does.
felixdcat
felixdcat
WA
3519 posts
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6 Jul 2012 9:12am
Little Jon said...

Why not raise the legal age by one year, every year. Existings smokers could still smoke but that will be the last geneeration that does.


And what is that going to change! Kids as young as 12 are smoking happily!
prohibition does not work! You will find plenty of black market ciggies, the price is going to be even higher and that will increase the crime rate 'cause peeps will be desperate to get money to feed the addiction.

Could help the pensioneers to have a bit extra at the end of the month by becoming ciggies dealers!
actiomax
actiomax
NSW
1576 posts
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6 Jul 2012 11:29am
Medical treatmemt is denied to smokers
I am refused dental surgery until i quit.
I would like to see the documention of the
Statistics of smokers with mental health probls
Or is this just your imagination.
It is recognised that schitzophrenics have .
Beniforts from smoking as in
reduced episoded . Although its not understoof whu
Wollemi
Wollemi
NSW
350 posts
NSW, 350 posts
6 Jul 2012 12:45pm
actiomax said...

Medical treatmemt is denied to smokers
I am refused dental surgery until i quit.
I would like to see the documention of the
Statistics of smokers with mental health probls
Or is this just your imagination.
It is recognised that schitzophrenics have .
Beniforts from smoking as in
reduced episoded . Although its not understoof whu


...that looks like some kinda prose. (And it looks like SeaBreeze could use a spell-check.)

Anyways, I have worked in a psycho-dementia NH and the mental health unit of a public hospital, as well as non-psych wards (just for comparison...). Those people who are smokers make a up a fair bit of psych patients. Perhaps 40%+
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