@logman,
the orgill report is still not finalised and a coronial inquest is being tabled. other than the critisism it has received from nsw greens and coalition it did not have the powers required to fully explore the outcomes. it is worth noting that the 2.7% figure is the figure based on complaints orgill looking into. there are accusations that some complaints weren't accepted. time will tell what the actual outcomes were
as to your post above. yes, finally the major parties will take the environment seriously is what i said. i hardly see that as saying the libs have a credible policy. it also says i think the same of labor. so what's your point. other than to think i share the same view on climate change as the coalition. as i pointed out. i don't vote for a party. i vote for policy and i certainly don't share either labors or libs view on climate change
and again, what do you mean my mob? more of the preconceived ideas. i have voted labor, liberal, national and the greens before at different times and at different levels of government because i vote for who i believe has the best policies and can do the job. yes i do research the policies prior to making my decisions. one of the main items stopping me voting greens this election was the fact they joined forces with labor. that to me was a deal breaker. but as you suggest, i pretty much don't vote labor federally because of unionism and track record. if they change, i'll change.
so don't lump me in with any particular party. i'm no sheep.
as for your comments on the ets. what your are saying is basically the labor party line. labor tried twice to get their ets policy through the senate. they failed both times by not gaining support from the greens or the independants. they failed to broker the deal. they failed to broker a lot of deals considering they had so many numbers in both houses, funny that. they also didn't need the support of the libs to get it through by the way. as it stood everyone in the senate pretty much voted against it including the libs, indipendants and greens.
furthermore, labor could have then also asked for a double dissolution election if they felt strongly enough about it but they didn't did they. they rolled over.
some of the facts
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_Pollution_Reduction_Schemenow back on topic.
as far as a minority governments go, (regardless of who that is) it can have some very positive outcomes becuase you can end up with a very balanced legislative process. anyone can introduce a bill into the lower house, both from the opposition and government. there it is debated and voted on. if you have a majority rule in the lower house then typically only the views of the majority party will get through to the upper house. but in the case of a few independants or greens forming the balance of power bills can get through that are not necessarily the view of the minority government if members cross the floor
i don't beleive climate change is stuck in never never land.
the indepandants so far have said they want green power industries, national broadband, carbon emissions scheme certainty and no mining tax to name a few.
the greens also now have a lower house representative to introduce bills.
if someone does manage to form a government it will be an interesting 3 years.
