Disgraceful behaviour like that has no place in the kiting community- I hope he was politely told that he wasn't welcome and never to return.

I also hope somebody apologised to the young fisho on behalf of the kiting community.....

jay said...

Not sure if anyone else saw this but about 6pm last night there was a bit of an incident which has the potential to jeopardise kitesurfing access to Brighton Beach.

A kiter (Black/blue/red Peter Lynn kite , Helmet, impact vest and sunglasses)came within 1m of a young fisherman in an attempt to spray him for what appeared to be no reason at all, surprise surprise the kiter gets caught in the fishermans line. The kiter then comes to the shore and starts heavying the fisho, pushing him, grabbing his rod and telling him to f&*k off from the beach. The unfortunate thing was that the kiter actually thought that he had more rights to be there than any of the other beach users. My granddad used to fish at that spot back in the 1950's, kiters have only been there for about 8-10years.

That kiter needs to have a good hard look at himself.

A number of families and other swimmers would have witnessed the aggro and are probably thinking what a bunch of di&ks kiters are.

Fortunately a couple of kiters on the beach tuned him in after the incident.

Incidences like this are the greatest danger for us. How can we prevent them?

Peter lynn kites seem to be the common denominator for trouble lets ban them..

Keep this thread on topic- it has nothing to do with the kite he flies or his apparent penchant for safety gear. It is his attitude and behaviour that reflect poorly on all of us.

His behaviour is directly affecting somebody elses enjoyment of the beach...

Red thumb away- why not go and speak to the fisho ? Why do people have to turn everything into a confrontation ?

So what if the fisho was trying to rile crew up - what is wrong with society these days that physical aggression is the instant way people see to sort out a problem ?

A friendly chat may or may not have sorted it out but at least the attempt would have been made....

Fek!!

If the young fisho dude was asian then I had a convo with him at 6.30 ish and he even helped land my kite!! He was very friendly and I have no doubt he would have moved if asked civily.

I am pretty sure the PL k-nob wasn't around at that stage but I think he preceded me on my downwinder from Flozzer.

I actually thought about mentioning the fisho’s not-so-great location but I thought – “Well he has been set up for a while now and there weren’t many kites around at all (nearly all kites had gone or continued further to Contacios etc) and to be honest there is still NO SHORTAGE of landing area 20 m south so shouldn’t be a drama”. Obviously I had underestimated the k-nob factor of selfishness and localism that is around. L is for LOSER!

I remember less than a decade ago, pretty much every arvo brighton would have a stack of fishos out trawling. They have obviously moved on due to the proliferation of kiters, but the fact remains THEY HAVE AS MUCH RIGHT TO BE THERE AS US!! The selfish little sandbox mentality of kiters out there needs to smarten up!! Pity the fisho was a nice bloke and didn’t sit the kiter right on his @rse!!

The ridiculous thing is this loser is still probably blaming the fisho for the tangle, even though Mr K-nob chose to get right up to the fishing gear in order to play the hero (in 20-25 kts) and then caused the tangle himself and had the audacity to then start a bit of shovey pushy . What an incredibly narrow minded, insular fool.

K-nobs such as this need their gear confiscated – end of problem. Truly disgraceful and no doubt will stick in the minds of all the beach punters who witnessed. Enjoy Brighton beach while you can fellas…



BTW - lets not derail this thread with slagging off gear/style choices etc. We all in some way or form cramp the usage of other water/beach users.

Guy sounds like such an epic cockbite that there was nothing that could have been done. When you deal with people, you have to realise that a certain percentage can't be helped no matter what.

jonojonojono said...

I would like to make some corrections.

As the kiter in question I did not grab his rod or push him. I did tell him to **** off and question his reasoning for fishing at that spot. It was in an aggressive tone.

No I did not touch him.

I was pissed because his lines had layed down some nice cuts on my hands.

I do blame myself for getting tangled with him, but I question him trying to wind in a kiteboarder.

Between the fishing man and drunk bloke who tried to fly my kite with me attached, Brighton has lost its attraction I won't come back.

Yours truely

Kook
:-(

Mate - credit where it is due - you have admitted some fault. The fact is though you were entirely (and solely) to blame. Your mis-guided anger lead to a bigger hassle of getting tangled and may have ended up with a serious problem for you and the fisho. Not good anyway you look at it.

If you are going to abuse those who, perfectly within their rights, also use the water then it would be wise not to go anywhere near Brighton (or an equally crowded spot) again.

Truly there are heaps of uncrowded spots to chose from so have a look around and find somewhere better. All good for everyone that way.


And for all other kiters IF THERE ARE OTHER USERS/FISHOS AROUND AT BRIGHTON THEN FFS LAND A FEW METRES FURTHER SOUTH THAN USUAL!!! So easy to do and safer, less stress and better for all users all round...

gee fair bit of agro on this thread too...

Correction jono, you did grab his fishing rod and at no point did you question his right to be there, instead told him he shouldnt be there with some poorly choosen words and an attitude to match.
I witnessed the whole event.

Why do you question him reeling in his line (if he even was)? If you wernt so over powered and went from the shoreline to 30m out in 1 second he might have had a chance to slacken the line. Think i would have turned the drag off and started winding after the way you tried to make a point by spraying him and almost loosing control in the process. A little cut on the finger...reckon you were lucky thats all that happened.

Your a dooshbag mate.

Not surprised one bit.. I was down at the Brighton earlier, at about 1 to 2 and it was obvious there would be some sort of accident/altercation/stuff up at one point considering how some of the guys (North kites) were kiting there. Reckless and cocky behaviour, jumping on boards, thrusting (well over-powered on 12m) over the waves, riding close to swimmers, hitting waves among surfers and swimmers, throwing tricks and stacking it not more than 3-4 meters from shore, often resulting in crashing and several times got "dragged" just up on the beach resulting in the lines coming very close to several beach goers..

I am sure they were in control, they were capable kiters but maybe that was the problem as blatant arrogant, cocky behaviour made me shake my head several times. Stressed "gaylies" pulled 5 meters from shore, kiteloop transitions showcased 5 meters out and so on... There were alot of kiters out and the majority stayed way clear of the beach and swimmers and still managed to boost big air and ride waves so why a couple had to push it so much further I can not understand..

Just a matter of time before a ban or similar will be put in place...

sprucey.

well said

solid comments!!!!

..who is right.........who is wrong......you can keep going.............but at the end of the line there is no excuse whatsoever for aggressive, threatening behaviour from a kiter. We have enough sentiments against us.
Grow up Jono!!! No matter where you go, eventually you will see other people who may not behave according to your likings......you still have no right to abuse them...you now run away from Brighton...fair enough.....but unless you change you will not be welcome anywhere else....

Reading all these threads on kiters behaving badly. I have to confess something before I give my opinion. I was kiting all alone yesterday, pretty much the only kiter to be seen on the water for miles (a couple of miles). When a small group of people stopped to watch (in amazement!). So I decide to give them a bit of a show from the limited bag of tricks that I know. Nothing wrong with that. But I started to get too cocky and came closer and closer to shore with my little parcel of tricks, at one point diving the kite quite low making one young lady run for cover terrified. After that they just walked away carrying on down the beach. I felt so bad and when they walked back up the beach I came in and apologized. They said that they found it amusing and didn`t think anything bad of it. I`m sure the young lady was thinking something else . There is nothing wrong with showing off, but there is no excuse to behave like an idiot. Problem is I see it all the time, more so with kiters than other water users (with exception to people on jet skies) and cringe. Like the kiteboarder up my way who in the middle of summer insists on racing through the swimmers all afternoon.
That`s the first time I`ve done something like that and the last. It`s just stupid.

DaveSpruce said...

Not surprised one bit.. I was down at the Brighton earlier, at about 1 to 2 and it was obvious there would be some sort of accident/altercation/stuff up at one point considering how some of the guys (North kites) were kiting there. Reckless and cocky behaviour, jumping on boards, thrusting (well over-powered on 12m) over the waves, riding close to swimmers, hitting waves among surfers and swimmers, throwing tricks and stacking it not more than 3-4 meters from shore, often resulting in crashing and several times got "dragged" just up on the beach resulting in the lines coming very close to several beach goers..

I am sure they were in control, they were capable kiters but maybe that was the problem as blatant arrogant, cocky behaviour made me shake my head several times. Stressed "gaylies" pulled 5 meters from shore, kiteloop transitions showcased 5 meters out and so on... There were alot of kiters out and the majority stayed way clear of the beach and swimmers and still managed to boost big air and ride waves so why a couple had to push it so much further I can not understand..

Just a matter of time before a ban or similar will be put in place...

Its all because the nobs think that if you are more than 5m from the shore the girlies wont see your trick and go wow look at him isnt he good.
Shame he didnt reel in jackass. It aint big and it aint clever to treat other beach users that way, we all gota share.