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twosouls
twosouls
QLD
17 posts
QLD, 17 posts
8 Nov 2011 2:23pm
I've been on a 9m Bandit Dos for a couple years now and love the depower of the kite, the speed of the kite and specifically the boosting height from the kite..
I recently went to a 9m Bandit III and find it hard to jump as high as I do on my Dos..
So I'm looking at getting a different kite as my Dos is on its last legs..

What kites on the market have the aspect ratio built for doing big boosts?

I'm sure I'll get slammed and people will say "every kite can jump big", etc... So if that is your opinion or answer, please don't respond... Note that I'm looking for a kite that has the aspect ratio more like a Bandit Dos rather than a Bandit III

Thanks for your help
Gary
theDoctor
theDoctor
NSW
5786 posts
NSW, 5786 posts
8 Nov 2011 4:23pm


Slingshot Link
Samm
Samm
WA
8 posts
WA, 8 posts
8 Nov 2011 1:32pm
North Rebel it'll put you through the roof..[}:)]
the walks
the walks
WA
448 posts
WA, 448 posts
8 Nov 2011 1:40pm
used to fly the dos myself, nearest kite on the market to the dos in the north fuse, if its big air you want try the ozone edge
Chris6791
Chris6791
WA
3271 posts
WA, 3271 posts
8 Nov 2011 4:02pm
www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Kitesurfing/Review/Ozone-Edge-11m-Review/

Three pages debating the best kite to boost on, I think the Ozone Edge is beyond my skill level but that doesn't stop me from wanting to pinch one of AKS's demo's for a play.
Chris6791
Chris6791
WA
3271 posts
WA, 3271 posts
8 Nov 2011 4:04pm
...but I just need to wait until there is sufficent wiggle room on the credit card, just in case I want to make an impulse purchase.
RPM
RPM
WA
1549 posts
RPM RPM
WA, 1549 posts
8 Nov 2011 4:08pm
twosouls said...

I've been on a 9m Bandit Dos for a couple years now and love the depower of the kite, the speed of the kite and specifically the boosting height from the kite..
I recently went to a 9m Bandit III and find it hard to jump as high as I do on my Dos..
So I'm looking at getting a different kite as my Dos is on its last legs..

What kites on the market have the aspect ratio built for doing big boosts?

I'm sure I'll get slammed and people will say "every kite can jump big", etc... So if that is your opinion or answer, please don't respond... Note that I'm looking for a kite that has the aspect ratio more like a Bandit Dos rather than a Bandit III

Thanks for your help
Gary


if you are ready and cash is no issue then the ozone edge will do the job. Its no delta shape like the bandit so will take you a while to dial it in. Other good options. Core gt 7m, north rebel, wainman smoke, best kahoona. Plus im sure there is others. These are just the ones i have rode which go big.

Remember if you want big jumps use a small kite when its nuking. 7m will give you bigger boosts than you would imagine.
Intheozone
Intheozone
WA
247 posts
WA, 247 posts
8 Nov 2011 4:51pm
Rebel without fail. I used to be a regular ozone rider but have recently made the switch to a rebel. It really is the do anything kite.
Wisha
Wisha
SA
255 posts
SA, 255 posts
8 Nov 2011 8:04pm
Core GT 7m or 9m is the closest newer kite you will get to the DOS. Basically the same shape with a refined bridle and one pump. The GTS has a revised canopy shape and a lighter feel, with more of an unhooked focus. The GT is just raw power.
Built next door in the same factory are North kites, and the Fuse looks like being the other brother to the DOS and GT. Also, the later revision Best Kahoona's apparently are around the mark.
Try those 4.

P.S. you will need to make your own rear line extensions if you want to use the DOS bar. Bandit 2 doesn't have equal length lines like the others.
ok
ok
NSW
1089 posts
ok ok
NSW, 1089 posts
8 Nov 2011 8:39pm
bws
surfingboye
surfingboye
NSW
2707 posts
NSW, 2707 posts
8 Nov 2011 8:44pm
Wipika Classic.
TurtleHunter
TurtleHunter
WA
1675 posts
WA, 1675 posts
8 Nov 2011 7:35pm
ok said...

bws

you got to be trolling
TurtleHunter
TurtleHunter
WA
1675 posts
WA, 1675 posts
8 Nov 2011 7:36pm
surfingboye said...

Wipika Classic.

I think he is after hight not rag dolling down wind
dave......
dave......
WA
2119 posts
WA, 2119 posts
8 Nov 2011 8:09pm
twosouls said...

I'm sure I'll get slammed and people will say "every kite can jump big", etc... So if that is your opinion or answer, please don't respond... Note that I'm looking for a kite that has the aspect ratio more like a Bandit Dos rather than a Bandit III

Thanks for your help
Gary


0'6 North Rhino ( I wish, but wrong aspect ratio ), For a simple pull the trigger and see the stars, V3 Kahoona ( I havent tried the V4), 2011 North Rebel, and the Ozone Kite the guys recommend (just obesrvations on the beach)in no specific order as everyones different in their riding style. Some will give you more float Ozone, Kahoona, and the rebel will give you a more direct up and down feel. But its your feel. All of these boost big and wont hindenburg on your head if you mess it up. Have fun demoing
KnutH
KnutH
VIC
427 posts
VIC, 427 posts
8 Nov 2011 11:10pm
It also depends on what type of jump you want:
A high aspect, flat kite (Edge, Crossbow) will take you up slowly like an elevator and you will glide downwind quite a bit.

A Delta will yank you up there more aggressively.

An allround freeriding kite can be a good medium, e.g. the Ocean Rodeo Rise jumps quite aggressively and also high with good hangtime.

A c-kite will sling you up there pendulum style and drop you quite fast. You gotta ride fast and hold the edge for a bit to get good airs.

That said, my personal boosting favourites so far are the Nemesis HP and Ocean Rodeo Rise.
Mr float
Mr float
NSW
3452 posts
NSW, 3452 posts
8 Nov 2011 11:38pm
Naish ar 5

Seriously tho I got some nice boosty floaty jumps today on a griffin argo 13,5 2012 (similar kite to bandit)
DaCurls
DaCurls
WA
134 posts
WA, 134 posts
9 Nov 2011 8:24am
learn to fly a true C-kite beyond its wind range
twosouls
twosouls
QLD
17 posts
QLD, 17 posts
9 Nov 2011 10:53am
Those are some great suggestions.. Thanks for that..
I was looking at a Core GT this week to buy, but will now look at some of the other suggestions just to see what I can find...

Thanks again for all the help..

Gary
Plummet
Plummet
4862 posts
4862 posts
9 Nov 2011 11:04am
KnutH said...

It also depends on what type of jump you want:
A high aspect, flat kite (Edge, Crossbow) will take you up slowly like an elevator and you will glide downwind quite a bit.

A Delta will yank you up there more aggressively.

An allround freeriding kite can be a good medium, e.g. the Ocean Rodeo Rise jumps quite aggressively and also high with good hangtime.

A c-kite will sling you up there pendulum style and drop you quite fast. You gotta ride fast and hold the edge for a bit to get good airs.

That said, my personal boosting favourites so far are the Nemesis HP and Ocean Rodeo Rise.


Thats good advice. i have the 11 which takes off like a plane elevates you up and glides you down miles away. Its a glorious feeling.

In saying that i'm prefering the urgent hoik and drop style of the c4 at the moment. you need to be bang on with the c4 redirect or your landing like a bag of ****. I stuffed up the other day and came down hard from about 15 foot up. problem was i was jumping in about 6 inches of water... yikes the splash down wasn't very forgiving before my back hit the sand. .... any way that aside it like operating a surgeons scalple by comparison with the edge. slice and dice the c4 around the sky is heaps of fun particularily if you have waves into the mix aswell.

The edge is a great booster but its not the best in the waves.

SugarQube
SugarQube
WA
490 posts
WA, 490 posts
9 Nov 2011 11:16am
Nothing beats the old C-kites for boosting.
These days I have to watch a video clip to see some one go massively high

So is it the kite. or the skill level?
puppetonastring
puppetonastring
WA
3619 posts
WA, 3619 posts
9 Nov 2011 11:33am
First comment of demo feedback on the Best Kahoona is almost always its boosting & hangtime. I have to agree - they boost like a champagne cork at a wedding and hangtime is awesome.
It may just be another delta but I reckon it has to be something to do with the centre panel. They are truly surprising. Defo worth look if boosting & freeride is your thing.
SaveTheWhales
SaveTheWhales
WA
1913 posts
WA, 1913 posts
9 Nov 2011 11:39am
The 'Epic' screamer shoots you up like a rocket,

the odd kite height jumps in squalls at the 'Pond' yesterday makes me think this
bennie
bennie
ACT
1258 posts
ACT, 1258 posts
9 Nov 2011 4:11pm
puppetonastring said...

First comment of demo feedback on the Best Kahoona is almost always its boosting & hangtime. I have to agree - they boost like a champagne cork at a wedding and hangtime is awesome.
It may just be another delta but I reckon it has to be something to do with the centre panel. They are truly surprising. Defo worth look if boosting & freeride is your thing.



yeah it's the same with the griffins. No centre strut, these kites go big!
Chris_M
Chris_M
2132 posts
2132 posts
9 Nov 2011 1:36pm
+1 for puppets comment, was always a little wary of Bests but was truly surprised at the ease in which the Kahoonas boost you and let u drift back down. Good low end and seemed pretty good in waves too. Not real stoked on the bars though
wishy
wishy
WA
1501 posts
WA, 1501 posts
9 Nov 2011 2:17pm
7m Core GT + 35knots + Pull the Bar All the way in.
Then pull on one side of the bar as hard as you can.
Send us a seabreeze message if you're not dead afterwards.
eppo
eppo
WA
9793 posts
WA, 9793 posts
9 Nov 2011 3:21pm

Owned and flown Kahoonas, Core GTS and Rebels. GTS probably beats rebels and the kahoona, rebels next, then the kahoona - they all go big. Rebels are the most stable of the lot in terms of gettting down in one piece.

The Older GT I've been told boost bigger than them all.

But the biggest boosting kite I have ever owned, believe it or not, was the flysurfer pyscho 4!! But at everything else it was complete crap, hence didn't have for long. But what it showed me was a nothing will boost, then glide, then land as well as a proper wing...

Now the closest on the market to a proper airfoil wing is the Ozone edge. That would be my choice for boosting. On that was your question, not surfing, boosting.

Haven't flown one - I will soon at AKS, but from what I can gather from a lot of research nothing will beat that kite if it is big boosting you want! After all, that is its design reason - and racing. Apparent wind my friend, apparent wind.
INTHELOOP
INTHELOOP
QLD
1855 posts
QLD, 1855 posts
9 Nov 2011 10:02pm
the best boosting kite i have riden are North Rebel 7m, Spleene QX 7 and 9m and Core GT 7m.

AndreC
AndreC
WA
512 posts
WA, 512 posts
9 Nov 2011 8:08pm
Bandit-Revolt is a newer gen Dos.
the walks
the walks
WA
448 posts
WA, 448 posts
9 Nov 2011 8:23pm
but the bag Andre
DaCurls
DaCurls
WA
134 posts
WA, 134 posts
9 Nov 2011 9:02pm
seen those gt's in action @ corro's last year biiiiiig and look like they loop a treat
Chris6791
Chris6791
WA
3271 posts
WA, 3271 posts
9 Nov 2011 9:53pm
Come and give one of my GT's a go Eppo, I need someone to show me how to boost properly. I keep getting smashed up on the landings, god help me if I actually get some height as well.
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