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H2flow
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10 Mar 2007 10:22pm
Not satisfied with the merciless slaughter of Whales to put in their stomachs, they are also mass slaughtering our Dolphin friends.
Check out the vid link then sign the petition link to help stop this insane inhumane culling.

Very disturbing for lovers of the ocean. Sometimes the ocean needs our help,and this is one of them.
To view the video is very disturbing, to not act in stopping such behaviour would be a travesty ...
At the very least please sign this online petition. Lovers of the
ocean and it's inhabitants - this is a clear call to action. To do nothing is to approve of it.
Please take the time to look at the video and sign the online
petition.
From little things, big things grow........
And then send it on to as many like minded people that you know. If we build the numbers, we will be heard eventually and things will change, one way or the other Please help! We must change the way people think about their oceans and inhabitants for the good of us all.
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DaveSpruce
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11 Mar 2007 2:08am
When in Rome
user
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11 Mar 2007 7:36am
You won't help by referring to the Japanese people as those"Bloody Japs"

The official Greenpeace veiw,is to let the Japanese people know that we love their people and culture,but hate the killing of whales.

The Japanese people don't kill them,and only a tiny minority eat the meat.


So,aquaint yourself with the Greenpeace mission,after all,its the Greenpeace activists that are out there physically trying to stop the killing.
At the moment they are running a campaign to send origami whales to Japan with a message that we love their culture ,but whaling breaks our hearts.

Go here to help: www.greenpeace.com.au/
coffeebean
coffeebean
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11 Mar 2007 7:41am
Very very cruel, watching that just makes me angry!!!!!
dan OK?
dan OK?
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11 Mar 2007 10:24am
Makes you wonder what they think of us and our live sheep exports!

Who are we to judge?
waxhead1
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11 Mar 2007 10:30am
There is no comparison Dan, I don't know what planet you are on with comments like that!
dan OK?
dan OK?
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11 Mar 2007 10:36am
quote:
Originally posted by waxhead1

There is no comparison Dan, I don't know what planet you are on with comments like that!



Because when we're cruel its different because its us and not them right?

Please explain!
don
don
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11 Mar 2007 10:22am
Unfortunately in history you tend to draw parallels and when I looked at those fishermen, I thought, they just missed their true calling with Adolf and his mates back in the early 1940 S
user
user
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11 Mar 2007 10:01am
quote:
Originally posted by waxhead1

There is no comparison Dan, I don't know what planet you are on with comments like that!



Mate,many,many sheep die a slow distressing death on those live export trips!Plus,they are headed for an unpleasant death by facing Mecca and having their throats cut so they bleed to death !
Don has a point.But,two wrongs dont make a right.
cwamit
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11 Mar 2007 10:09am
There is a big difference between those dolphins pulled from water alive and placed onto a truck - than sheep being transported by ship. Dolphins need water or least constantly need to be kept wet to be considered as humane treatment of a dolphin.

With regards to sheep and transportation in general you might as well draw the comparison to all livestock transportation because ultimately it’s the same sociological argument. Yes they are confined to a space for periods of time. In the ship transport instance there is the inherit risk from the overseas client of refusing a load.. Then problems occur. Personally I think most times that is political because the diseases they claim the sheep have are sometimes false.

Sheep transported on ship are treated as humanly as economically viable to their destination. Yes some die on the trip just as some die in a local abattoirs while penned. Unlike that video were 100 percent of those dolphins were caught and handled inhumanly.

As for cultural differences well... When the sheep get to the location the Australian meat and livestock organization have in place criteria’s to how the sheep must be handled because some of the countries treat all animals in general as bad as those Japanese treated the dolphins.


dan OK?
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11 Mar 2007 1:38pm



hawaii
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11 Mar 2007 2:18pm
I have visited a sheep abbatoir and seen sheep (lambs) be killed on mass (many per minute)... while it is disturbing to see... the death is very quick. Killing these dolphins is clearly worse... they are dolpins!... I find watching that video a lot more disturbing then actually seeing lambs die up close in real life.

Stop those ****ing barbarians (and all dispicable state sanctioned or otherwise activities which are ruining our planet)...

what have I become a god dammed hippie - **** no.

DaveSpruce
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11 Mar 2007 12:49pm
The hypocricy of the nation
krazykatz69
krazykatz69
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11 Mar 2007 3:28pm
literally felt really sick after watching that!!
Coral Sea
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11 Mar 2007 5:08pm
if you are outraged you could always donate a little something to the Sea Shepherd foundation as well as Greenpeace:

seashepherd.org/

I have a feeling the japanese whalers and longliners respond a little better to the concrete reinforced bow of a 650 tonne Sea Shepherd ship slamming into their vessel than to some origami paper cranes.
sleek1
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11 Mar 2007 7:57pm
i think there is way to many kiwis on this forum. danok we actualy eat sheep not commit sexual acts on them. I am sorry that you feel that way about them
cwamit
cwamit
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11 Mar 2007 10:32pm
quote:
Originally posted by dan OK?








Bloody hell I am a such a sucker for these discussions..

Never surprises me how much peta information is propaganda then again their doctrine isn’t about welfare of animals it’s ultimately about freedom of animals... guard dogs for the blind is inhumane in their eyes (get it? in their eyes!)

Anyhow I wouldn’t use their media information - Toni Collette and Pink both ended up rescinding their condemnation of mulesing do to the facts they received from peta were so off the mark. Bit like that video actually

You do know it’s been documented at least one instance (that I know of) of video footage about the Australian meat industry that turned out the livestock wasn’t even of Australian origin. Which essentially I would have to guess was your point. Japs versus Australian animal right ethnics…..

Ceremonial killing.. This happens in Australia still by muslin butchers. Throats cut with sheep pointing to Mecca this isnt on ceremonial special occasions but all the time.. sadly that’s never going to change.. it’s a religious thing.

Don’t think anyone is saying its ok for animals of any species to die slow painful deaths.. that’s a typical emotive comeback from the bandy brigade – They also get easy on the eye girls to dress as little ho peeps. The fact of the matter is the live trade industry has been evolving over time and continues too improve in animal welfare – those deaths cost the industry money so from an economical argument its in the industry interest for the animals to survive the trips – after saying that, there will always be problems – ships break downs and poor form by countries of destination. Though to somehow align the live trade with those dolphins in that video from my perspective seems jilted if not slightly ignorant. BTW i so happen to farm cows And I eat tin tuna which probably has some dolphin in it so perhaps to you I am not such a hypocrite.

Anyhow what has this got to do with kiting? … shouldn’t it be in the general section of the forum.




dustin
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11 Mar 2007 11:44pm
sheep getting slaughtered isnt as bad as they are too stupid to know whats going on, dolphins are one of the most intelligent mammals and are aware that their being seperated from their offspring and getting tortured, saying this i really dont know what im talking about but sounds right.
waveslave
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11 Mar 2007 11:10pm
Japs aren't the problem.
Greenpeace isn't the solution.
The planet is challenged by over-population.

In 1900,
the worlds population was 1.6 billion.
One hundred years later,
the population exploded to 6.6 billion mother-f.u.c.k.s.

If the sea becomes empty of fish,
due to over-exploitation,
we all may end up eating flipper-burgers.
hahahahah
KAOS69
KAOS69
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11 Mar 2007 11:18pm
i have to agree with neoniphon support the sea shepherds these people are true modern day heros prepeared to jump in front of harms way to protect these animals.
greenpeace true modern day bench warmers who would like to do something if only ?????????????? some reason
paper flowers, i know what the whale killers will be doing with that and its not stop whaleing
DaveSpruce
DaveSpruce
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12 Mar 2007 12:07am
You are all ****ing retarded... Yeah **** let's spend all our time, money and consideration on some fish (yeah I know it's mamal ok) when people are dying every minute of HIV, famine, war, terrorism and so on... But nooooooo for gods sake, let's concentrate on the smartass dolphin, that is WAAAAAY more important!!!
user
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12 Mar 2007 6:20am
quote:
Originally posted by KAOS69

i have to agree with neoniphon support the sea shepherds these people are true modern day heros prepeared to jump in front of harms way to protect these animals.
greenpeace true modern day bench warmers who would like to do something if only ?????????????? some reason
paper flowers, i know what the whale killers will be doing with that and its not stop whaleing



You will find that it is Greenpeace activists that are puting themselves between the harpoon and the whales.
http://www.greenpeace.org/australia/resources/photo-stories/whales/whales-hunt?page=2
KAOS69
KAOS69
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12 Mar 2007 9:50am
the last time i saw greenpeace rattling tins i thought yeah, sure good cause and offered a donation after being offered the carsalesmans pitch buy a tree hugger on a retainer i was told that greenpeace can no longer except cash but would be more than happy to garnish (help themselves to your money) your bank account on a regular basis.

i know first hand what greenpeace do and dont do.
dont let yourself be fooled by what there sponsers want you to see in the media.

paper flowers
holey crap !!!!!!!!!!!!.
so thats how the boat court on fire! they must have turned the for home too fast when they recived those nasty paper flowers.
dont get me wrong i am sure the greenpeace do a good job what ever it is that they do.
JEFFERSON
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12 Mar 2007 10:20am
Dave Spruce, I really hope you are joking!

Sheep transportation is also very cruel and we should look at our own country at the same time as we point the finger over seas.

Green peace is good but a lot of money gets spent on their own infrastructure.

Everyone should eat far less meat and do themselves, the animals and the planet a big favour.
Kitehard
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12 Mar 2007 1:18pm
Sorry for not being a big fan of Greenpeace. My old man offered to donate some money to Greenpeace at some stage, I was house sitting for him and some tree hugger rang on the phone demanding money and was really very rude and aggressive. I told him to ring my old man when he got back and that in the mean time he should pull his head in, I will not support their efforts due to their collection strategy. Sea Shepphard sounds better.

As for the greenpeace effort, as I understand it, they will cut down a bunch of trees to make paper origami to send to the Japs to prevent them from whaling ... or maybe let them have a laugh at our attempt at origami?

The Japs probably wont be able to do much whaling for the first day or two once they get up from rolling around on the Floor laughing their arses off. OMFG! <slaps forehead>

Good winds,

DaveSpruce
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12 Mar 2007 2:40pm
quote:
Originally posted by JEFFERSON

Dave Spruce, I really hope you are joking!

Sheep transportation is also very cruel and we should look at our own country at the same time as we point the finger over seas.

Green peace is good but a lot of money gets spent on their own infrastructure.

Everyone should eat far less meat and do themselves, the animals and the planet a big favour.



First of all I am not joking. Second you ever thought that some animals do exist on this planet mainly because we DO eat meat? We breed animals to slaughter and eat them, sure. But if we weren't meat eaters why would be breed some of these animals? Pigs, Cows and other animals probably wouldn't even exist or would be an extingt spicies because we wouldn't need them. This is a fact
poor relative
poor relative
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12 Mar 2007 2:44pm
will you let me slaughter and eat you DJ sprucebag
I think you would be nice with some chives and sour cream
getfunky
getfunky
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12 Mar 2007 2:51pm
My 2c worth is that I have been a paid up member of Greenpeace for over 10 years, yet I have been increasingly unhappy and unsettled by their motivation and drive towards marketing/publicity while their actual focus and more importantly acheivements has really become pretty ordinary. Whaling conflicts and the world wide publicity that ensues is a big earner for GP.

I plan to put my meagre spendies more towards the Oxfam side of things... Oxfam are not immune to the need for marketing either (as anyone acosted by self-righteous backpacker turds in the city will know). However it is sad but I believe teaching the 3rd world to fish is better than giving them a dolphin...

Obviously all these issues are worthy in there own ways but you can't solve all the world's problems at once.

I also agree with comments about live sheep export. It is very easy to look at another culture and write them off as barbarians without looking in your own back yard. A mate of mine lives in Norway (which continues to whale as it is a significant part of their history and culture) and the attitude there is why do we kill our national emblem and point the finger elswhere??? Don't get them started about live sheep exports either - I can barely understand them when they are calm...

I just find it a little difficult that a hummane finish is not possible in this day and age regardless of the fish/mammal/hippy donation collector

colinwill78
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12 Mar 2007 4:58pm
do you think we can we get the japs to eat our sharks and crocodiles instead??
less people give a **** about them.

then japs can be fed and we can swim safer.

all those in flavour say I.
Tonewolf
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12 Mar 2007 4:53pm
I

They'd probably pay big bucks for these delicassies.
GreenPat
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12 Mar 2007 6:24pm
I used to be knocking man at an abbatoir for a holiday job while I was at uni. I've killed more animals than anyone else I know (except of course the long term slaughtermen at the abbatoir). Slitting an animal's throat is a very humane way to kill it. There is minimal pain involved, especially in the standard process of stunning the animal first. Even when they face mecca they still got stunned first. Occasionally I would miss the brain with the bolt gun and the animal would still be alive when the next guy down the chain cut its throat. They wouldn't show any signs of distress at this, the knives were quite sharp and they just seemed to go to sleep as the life drained out of them.
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