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CRUZIN
CRUZIN
WA
55 posts
WA, 55 posts
16 Mar 2012 10:05pm
Is it worth the trip
Who has been. Good or bad experience.
chillout
chillout
WA
38 posts
WA, 38 posts
17 Mar 2012 12:20pm
I went two years ago, flat water, great lagoon, wind all day. Kited for 6 days straight in solid 15 knots late July/ early August as an intermediate kiter. I was lucky with the wind and able to use an 8 and 10 generally. Needed a 12 that I hired from Jen at Zephyr for a day or so. Duty free alcohol, fresh food's expensive (all flown from Perth). Mobile phones and crackberries didn't work there two years ago - this is the best part of the place so I hope that hasn't changed. Would definitely go back.
woodys
woodys
WA
218 posts
WA, 218 posts
17 Mar 2012 12:23pm
My daughter went a few years back.
Went from just holding ground to well upwind, way better stance and style and with confidence boosted immensely.
She had a great time. Came home with some awesome photos.
Rob S
Rob S
VIC
391 posts
VIC, 391 posts
17 Mar 2012 4:49pm
Listen to the voice of experience. Don't go.

It's awful.

I've been every year since 2007 and booked again for this year.
ApatheticEnd
ApatheticEnd
WA
995 posts
WA, 995 posts
17 Mar 2012 2:48pm
Is there any tide/access restrictions? I want to be able to kite all day.
Rob S
Rob S
VIC
391 posts
VIC, 391 posts
17 Mar 2012 7:05pm
ApatheticEnd said...

Is there any tide/access restrictions? I want to be able to kite all day.


Break your 12 hour session each day for a few hours at low tide.
ezza
ezza
NSW
561 posts
NSW, 561 posts
18 Mar 2012 10:13pm
Cocos was the best trip I've ever done. Kite from dawn to dusk some days. Relax into island time, no phone reception, no need to lock the door, just kite, eat sleep & repeat. Jogging down the road on the first morning I saw a massive whale breach about 500m off the beach. The snorkelling is better than the great barrier reef & the vibe is the ultimate chill. Book it now.
Shayne86
Shayne86
WA
189 posts
WA, 189 posts
18 Mar 2012 7:42pm
So, worth the thoudands of dollars to get there and kite??? Would love to go one day when im more experienced than I am now
wdric
wdric
NSW
1625 posts
NSW, 1625 posts
18 Mar 2012 11:39pm
Shayne86 said...

So, worth the thoudands of dollars to get there and kite??? Would love to go one day when im more experienced than I am now


How many times a week to you currently kite?
How long will it take you to get 5 or 6 good solid sessions in?

Just think how much more experienced you will be after a trip like where you can watch others and ask questions and everyone helps each other out, and at the end of each day you can talk about kite sh!t with everyone else

cauncy
cauncy
WA
8407 posts
WA, 8407 posts
18 Mar 2012 9:04pm
Had a great time with the family , awsome fishing , diving,freediving,great surf , if you like kiting in flat to choppy conditions , then I'm sure you'd love it, after 2 weeks there i missed my home spot and the waves, for a beginner I'd recommend it, if you want clubs and nightlife , awsome restaurants, you'd be better off elsewhere, but that's what I loved about it, can get a bit costly, $1000+each for flights,$4000 for house, car hire, I think all up we spent $11000 ish for a family of 4 we went of our own accord not sure what it costs with zephyr kite tours, email Rob s he's a village elder or visit the website,
foosdepilly
foosdepilly
28 posts
28 posts
18 Mar 2012 11:05pm
Haven't been there myself... but there is a great artical on Cocos in the latest Kiteworld mag.... Sounds awesome
max14
max14
SA
220 posts
SA, 220 posts
19 Mar 2012 11:37am
Went there in 2009 and have been hanging to go back ever since. Awesome place, so chilled. I think because its a little expensive it keeps the the average tourists and bogans away, so it's a win really!!!
ApatheticEnd
ApatheticEnd
WA
995 posts
WA, 995 posts
19 Mar 2012 1:22pm
What is the accomdation like with Zephyr? No details on their site.

Interested in the Advanced Camp in August.
cauncy
cauncy
WA
8407 posts
WA, 8407 posts
19 Mar 2012 2:02pm
Apethetic usually shared house accommodations,but the place has units villas and private houses check out cocos island tourism
ezza
ezza
NSW
561 posts
NSW, 561 posts
19 Mar 2012 9:14pm
ApatheticEnd said...

What is the accomdation like with Zephyr? No details on their site.

Interested in the Advanced Camp in August.


I chose the share house package, and it was a roomy 3 bedroom place with comfy beds. within a day or two everyone was buddies.
Shayne86
Shayne86
WA
189 posts
WA, 189 posts
19 Mar 2012 11:06pm
wdric said...
How many times a week to you currently kite?
How long will it take you to get 5 or 6 good solid sessions in?

Just think how much more experienced you will be after a trip like where you can watch others and ask questions and everyone helps each other out, and at the end of each day you can talk about kite sh!t with everyone else




not as much as i would like unfortunately
working away on the mines is great. . . .except if the wind is no good the week im home theres 5 weeks without any time on the water. gonna take me years just to start jumping hahaha

will definately book a trip over one day, looks amazing! and no passport required? is that correct as its ozzy soil????

Davereid
Davereid
98 posts
98 posts
20 Mar 2012 7:45am
havent been
killing to go there (anyone want to be a lamb for me to kill so i can go)

12mtr is basic kite setup there and long runs and just awesome :( i hate all the stories i hear of it...

would be great to do it for a week.
ApatheticEnd
ApatheticEnd
WA
995 posts
WA, 995 posts
21 Mar 2012 12:17pm
Rob S said...

Listen to the voice of experience. Don't go.

It's awful.

I've been every year since 2007 and booked again for this year.


Do you go with Zephyr or do your own thing?
zephyr
zephyr
NSW
84 posts
NSW, 84 posts
27 Mar 2012 2:58pm
HI Guys, the accommodation we have on the Cocos in the packages are 2 of the 3 only big houses available. With a population of about 100 on and West island the town only 1km by .5km max, there inst much to choose from.

As is is pretty exxy to go to the Cocos we have made packages that make it affordable for people to come and experience the awesome kiting there.

The package may seem pricey but we give you more in that package that you can get on your own and for better value too. Sharing the love means better value, more fun and more options to eat out and be social.

Everything on Cocos is a logistical night mare due to its size and remoteness so with our 8 years experience we can give all our kiters everything they need and more.

You can go on your own, the Cocos Islands Tourism website has details.
You can also get make your own plans then join us on Island to get all our kiting services like supported lagoon crossings, down winders and free coaching etc
or come on a package.

Shayne86 - the Cocos is perfect for all levels because of the shallow water, consistent winds and our experienced advanced instructors.

Everything Rob S says! He has been there every year since the beginning of time.

Any more questions post them here or see the website www.zephyrkitetours.com


gmd
gmd
WA
97 posts
gmd gmd
WA, 97 posts
27 Mar 2012 12:34pm
I had emailed a few organisations in CoCos and have mixed results in the quality of answers. Some take days if not weeks to answer, some answer straight away, some never answered.
For me this is already an indication of the performance of a business. If I have to wait too long for an answer I am not interested. I give them the benefit of the doubt, but after 3 days I expect an answer.

You can book the cheapest flights for 460 - 480$ one way. I booked a self contained unit in a bit more exclusive setting for $140 a night for two. Alkohol is cheap (tax free) and a buffet dinner can be had in the Motel I was told. I have a car for the time to be independent and lock my stuff when I am at the public beach although I was told this is not necessary.
I am not a group person, so I prefer to travel as individual as I am. After a complaint to someone in Cocos that I do not get any answers on some emails I received a friendly email from
Kerenda.

Here her email:
=============================================================
My name is Kerenda and I am the Coordinator of the Cocos Keeling Islands Visitor Centre.

I believe that you have some queries regarding your trip to the Cocos Islands in July.

If there is anything that I can help you with or any issues that you need clarified, please do not hesitate to contact me directly on (08) 9162 6790 or via email [email protected]
===============================================================

I believe she is happy to answer all your questions.

I had a very long chat with two people who have been there and got a reasonably good picture about what to expect. If you want you can PM me, maybe I know what you are looking for.

I will be there in the second half of July.

regards
gmd
Knickers
Knickers
WA
257 posts
WA, 257 posts
27 Mar 2012 2:10pm
^^
Note to sef, аvoid July for a trip to Cocos.

If you are frustrated with level of service on island so far, you will be about ready to go on a shooting spree after your first days there:-(

I recommend take some chill pills and go with the island flow, it is NOT a tourist resort which will pander to your every need.
gmd
gmd
WA
97 posts
gmd gmd
WA, 97 posts
27 Mar 2012 2:33pm
Knickers said...

^^
Note to sef, аvoid July for a trip to Cocos.

If you are frustrated with level of service on island so far, you will be about ready to go on a shooting spree after your first days there:-(


I recommend take some chill pills and go with the island flow, it is NOT a tourist resort which will pander to your every need.


I do not expect "service for every need " .. I am real good on my own doing everything myself. :) but they all also expect your money upfront, so I expect
a minimum of professionalism.

I just hate lack of information and consider unanswered emails lack of courtesy
not just lack of business sense.

It is very simple to set up an auto answer. May be something like this: Hi there, am out having lots of fun. Not sure when I am back, but please do not get impatient if it takes a few days to get back to you. I am ok with something like that ..

Actually some answered pretty quick and nice ..

No answer or late answer - lack of competence in a service job .. period ..


Well, I live long enough in WA to be used to that everything happens in slow motion and not just in Cocos

regards
gmd

davem207
davem207
VIC
138 posts
VIC, 138 posts
27 Mar 2012 8:34pm
www.theaustralian.com.au/nocookies?a=A.flavipes


wonder if u could re-direct the camera for some good action pics on the next trip! lol
Rob S
Rob S
VIC
391 posts
VIC, 391 posts
27 Mar 2012 9:37pm
This would mean massive changes to the current minimal security and change the whole feel of the place. I doubt the scroungers will continue to play golf across the airstrip if this happens.

davem207 said...

www.theaustralian.com.au/nocookies?a=A.flavipes


wonder if u could re-direct the camera for some good action pics on the next trip! lol


Kazan
Kazan
QLD
699 posts
QLD, 699 posts
27 Mar 2012 9:44pm
gmd said...

Knickers said...

^^
Note to sef, аvoid July for a trip to Cocos.

If you are frustrated with level of service on island so far, you will be about ready to go on a shooting spree after your first days there:-(


I recommend take some chill pills and go with the island flow, it is NOT a tourist resort which will pander to your every need.


I do not expect "service for every need " ..



Well in a way you do. If they don't answer emails as soon as you would expect, you may not appreciate how poor communications are in remote places, especially islands. I remember a similar poor level of comms from Samoa when I went there on a surf trip. It took months of planning just to know someone was going to be there to recieve us at the airport, let alone have accomodation booked.
I suggest you exercise your patience and try other more direct ways of comms. Some Indo islands I visited required telegrams! Yep.
wdric
wdric
NSW
1625 posts
NSW, 1625 posts
27 Mar 2012 11:43pm
gmd said...

Knickers said...


but they all also expect your money upfront, so I expect
a minimum of professionalism.

I just hate lack of information and consider unanswered emails lack of courtesy
not just lack of business sense.

No answer or late answer - lack of competence in a service job .. period ..

Well, I live long enough in WA to be used to that everything happens in slow motion and not just in Cocos

regards
gmd


Some of your best holiday experiences in the world may very well be at a place that has poor service as you see it, but I bet when you land in an island paradise like this you will be greeted with a friendly smile that will help you forget all about the emails back home because they are good with people not computers;)

I reckon you are more likely to have a sh!t holiday at a place that has a fancy brochure, swank website and answer emails very efficiently because they are more focused on making money than making memories for their guests!
davem207
davem207
VIC
138 posts
VIC, 138 posts
28 Mar 2012 7:22am
Perhaps this is a bi-product of the world we live in now with all this "insociable" media we have, i remember having some great holidays, as a kid, all of which were organised via a simple phone call and or letter, i think these days we just expect too much too soon, though after owning several businesses in a past life i do appreciate that prompt response and or at least a response can go a long way, thank god now i dont work for myself so at least i have a spare 5 mins in my life these days and the wonderful benefit of having Sick (aka kite) days.
GreenGriff
GreenGriff
SA
137 posts
SA, 137 posts
28 Mar 2012 8:30am
wont be long the place will be full of yanks and restricted areas :/ prolly have good internet and communication tho
KIT33R
KIT33R
NSW
1716 posts
NSW, 1716 posts
28 Mar 2012 10:59am
Why would you want to go to Cocos?
It's windy all the time, day and night!
Mobile phones don't work.
Alcohol is too cheap
There are no 5 star hotels
The water is too warm and clear in winter
The wind is too warm in winter
The sea life are constantly darting about under your board as you cruise across the vast lagoon
And when you have to leave, all you want to do is go back. It makes you miserable!


I almost forgot - There's nothing to do except kite until your legs falls off and party when it's too dark to kite.
NigeRobo
NigeRobo
QLD
27 posts
QLD, 27 posts
28 Mar 2012 10:00am
Get in there now before the yanks take the place over, absolute disgrace.
the gaz
the gaz
WA
173 posts
WA, 173 posts
28 Mar 2012 8:31am
I think you'll find they are already there, half the reason the Cocos get all the government handouts it does is because of it's strategic value.
Still a good place to kite when it's not low tide.
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