Euros kite accident, learn your right of way!

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default
default
WA
1255 posts
WA, 1255 posts
12 Sep 2012 3:25pm
wonder if there will be less euros this year, now that they don't have any money with the euro financial crisis and all (?)
sir ROWDY
sir ROWDY
WA
5378 posts
WA, 5378 posts
12 Sep 2012 4:43pm
^^^Well there was last year... and from general word on the street I would say yes, for sure. Most people will go to SA instead.
Puetz
Puetz
NT
2186 posts
NT, 2186 posts
12 Sep 2012 6:35pm
default said...

wonder if there will be less euros this year, now that they don't have any money with the euro financial crisis and all (?)


... that and all the sharks in WA!
dbabicwa
dbabicwa
WA
809 posts
WA, 809 posts
12 Sep 2012 5:18pm
Puetz said...

default said...

wonder if there will be less euros this year, now that they don't have any money with the euro financial crisis and all (?)


... that and all the sharks in WA!


...that and all money sharks in EU!
terminal
terminal
1421 posts
1421 posts
12 Sep 2012 5:57pm
Cameras, especially ones with fish eye lenses encourage people to get close.

You often see guys standing in the water and guys ride almost over them or jump very near them. There are several videos showing impacts when it goes wrong.

Even when you're not close you can still be in range (just hit the back edge of his sail). Given there's plenty of space, he probably gave them more clearance next time.

holgs
holgs
WA
303 posts
WA, 303 posts
13 Sep 2012 1:28pm
pgh said...

hello all....



when i get out again i wont change my kiting practices riding ..just maybe wear some american football kit when i'm out with my kite buddy



How about keeping a bit more distance from other kiters and water users ?

Gorgo
Gorgo
VIC
5127 posts
VIC, 5127 posts
13 Sep 2012 3:42pm
.. Your set of rules is obvious but does not hint at how to avoid collision (usually why those collisions happen: not knowing what to do) you might know by now what to do but a beginner might not be enlightened to such extent and needs to understand how to avoid dangerous situations... Dissing the rules just won't help, dismissing them is irresponsible altogether.


That's easy. Stop. Turn around. Move over. Ride somewhere else.

The application of the starboard rule is eminently simple, just turn right. Nobody knows what the rule is and nobody applies it.

The speed and maneuverability and crowding that many people kite in renders the starboard rule mostly pointless. You end up with people trying to guess where they are relative to each other and grumpy people yelling at everybody else.

If you ride along expecting people to obey some silly rule then you create the situation where people have a sense of entitlement. "He hit me because he was in the wrong!"

Start off from the position of "see and avoid". That makes collision avoidance the responsibility of everybody.

It also follows that more experienced riders "see" better and "avoid" better so the problem of incompetent newbies causing crashes is reduced.
79Boarder
79Boarder
NSW
94 posts
NSW, 94 posts
13 Sep 2012 3:54pm
stamp said...

i reckon the gopro is a big part of the problem. people are so worried about getting that great footage they are oblivious to what's going on around them.
the presence of a camera of any sort is enough to turn a normally competent rider into an idiot.



^^^^ +1
Spacemonkey!
Spacemonkey!
SA
2288 posts
SA, 2288 posts
13 Sep 2012 4:27pm
As others have eluded to starboard/port ROW is more or less irrelevant in a lot of circumstances. In a wave location generally you should give way to the person riding the wave regardless of tack. In a freestyle/free ride situation it depends on the spot but generally make you intentions clear whether to go upwind or downwind by kite position. If there is a circuit like there is at many beaches you should be considerate of people trying to find space to do tricks (i.e keep upwind) although it is obviously the person doing a tricks responsibility to find the space- don't be a dick and ride downwind of them. In a racing circumstance the starboard/port rules absolutely apply.

There's just no point complicating the issue by expecting people to add port/starboard confusion into a simple act of seeing someone deciding whether you will pass upwind or downwind of them and making your intentions clear by raising or lowering the kite.

Each beach will operate differently- respect the other riders.
SUPSurferQLD
SUPSurferQLD
QLD
340 posts
QLD, 340 posts
13 Sep 2012 7:33pm
Spacemonkey! said...

As others have eluded to starboard/port ROW is more or less irrelevant in a lot of circumstances. In a wave location generally you should give way to the person riding the wave regardless of tack. In a freestyle/free ride situation it depends on the spot but generally make you intentions clear whether to go upwind or downwind by kite position. If there is a circuit like there is at many beaches you should be considerate of people trying to find space to do tricks (i.e keep upwind) although it is obviously the person doing a tricks responsibility to find the space- don't be a dick and ride downwind of them. In a racing circumstance the starboard/port rules absolutely apply.

There's just no point complicating the issue by expecting people to add port/starboard confusion into a simple act of seeing someone deciding whether you will pass upwind or downwind of them and making your intentions clear by raising or lowering the kite.

Each beach will operate differently- respect the other riders.


+1 - well said
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