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waveslave
waveslave
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7 May 2010 8:21pm


Can anyone see a valid use for my invention ? ^^^
It's a standard control bar with a normal central-hole ...
but I've fastened a 'fairlead' hole-bracket onto the centre as an extra feed-guide.
I call it the 'double barrel c0ntr0l bar'. (patent pending)
jmkd
jmkd
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3 posts
7 May 2010 8:36pm
nah but like your hot knife they are good for bladder repairs if you are quik
sir ROWDY
sir ROWDY
WA
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7 May 2010 8:42pm
I can, you could sell it to different companys to pair with their overpriced, overhyped bow contraptions. You could make millions.
Spacemonkey!
Spacemonkey!
SA
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7 May 2010 10:23pm
Almost as good as my new invention to replace the bicycle

SaveTheWhales
SaveTheWhales
WA
1913 posts
WA, 1913 posts
8 May 2010 8:42am
Sorry WaveSlave

I am blinded by creativity - all i can see is twice the amount of stuff to twist up in multiple rotations

Maybe artfull as a bathroom hand towel rail
Burls
Burls
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209 posts
8 May 2010 9:10am
Slave, I don’t really see it's purpose………… Is this a new place to connect your death leash to?
Trant
Trant
NSW
601 posts
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8 May 2010 11:32am
Didn't Gaastra make a 2 holed bar once? The idea being that, combined with a swivel on your chicken loop, untangling the bar after a rotation simply required the kiter to push/pull the bar and the chicken rope would untangle.
(In Gaastra's case, it was a 5th line. In Wavey's case, I'm assuming it's the other half of the chicken rope)

Is that what you're doing 'slave?
SaveTheWhales
SaveTheWhales
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8 May 2010 10:49am
The laugh is on us hes tinkering with our heads
djdojo
djdojo
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8 May 2010 3:56pm
don't core bars already have three holes in the centre?
GalahOnTheBay
GalahOnTheBay
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8 May 2010 4:26pm
Trant said...

Didn't Gaastra make a 2 holed bar once?


Yeah that rings a bell, but theirs was a left and right hole in the main bar.

All that thing did was chew the chicken loop line!
mattyjee
mattyjee
WA
575 posts
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8 May 2010 5:46pm
^^ Yes, core bars have the 3 hole thingy for untwisting lines.

Also, WTF is that tool in the background of the original photo?
gruezi
gruezi
WA
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8 May 2010 5:48pm
Lurve your work Slave, but I haven't got a clue.........nice tinkering weather though
lotofwind
lotofwind
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8 May 2010 8:05pm
Will it improve your upwind wave riding at all
Factory
Factory
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8 May 2010 6:23pm
mattyjee said...
Also, WTF is that tool in the background of the original photo?

rope cutter.
Spacemonkey!
Spacemonkey!
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8 May 2010 8:51pm
Factor 5 said...

mattyjee said...
Also, WTF is that tool in the background of the original photo?

rope cutter.


Hot knife
jjd
jjd
WA
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jjd jjd
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8 May 2010 8:05pm
mattyjee said...

^^ Yes, core bars have the 3 hole thingy for untwisting lines.

Also, WTF is that tool in the background of the original photo?


Was it Slave ?
lol
TurtleHunter
TurtleHunter
WA
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8 May 2010 8:12pm
and what about the bar twisting with a hole off centre.
TurtleHunter
TurtleHunter
WA
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8 May 2010 8:13pm
I think we have to get to 2 pages before he tells us.
TurtleHunter
TurtleHunter
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8 May 2010 8:14pm
waveslave said...



Can anyone see a valid use for my invention ? ^^^
It's a standard control bar with a normal central-hole ...
but I've fastened a 'fairlead' hole-bracket onto the centre as an extra feed-guide.
I call it the 'double barrel c0ntr0l bar'. (patent pending)

We there yet slave
waveslave
waveslave
WA
4263 posts
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8 May 2010 8:23pm
Why does the hole need to be thru the bar ? ^^^
It makes more sense NOT to have a hole (thru the bar) strengthwise.
Beersy
Beersy
TAS
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8 May 2010 10:36pm
waveslave said...
It makes more sense NOT to have a hole (thru the bar) strengthwise.


That's true, but how often do bars actually snap. I've been using one bar on all three of my kites for 2 years now and it's not showing any signs of stress. So strengthwise, they're already up to the job, and adding appendages just adds more complexity.
rhinoman
rhinoman
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362 posts
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9 May 2010 9:37am
Spacemonkey! said...

Almost as good as my new invention to replace the bicycle


this looks more like a WA sex toy for gay people who live in the west...the seat pole lookes like it has been ribbed for that extra rough ride

Smedg
Smedg
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836 posts
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9 May 2010 12:22pm
I like it slave. Where do you attach your safety?

ps old cad bars had the hole not going through the bar and they had that 'revolutionary' but really **** idea for locking down the power which i think was useful for deadmans and nothing else.
djdojo
djdojo
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9 May 2010 1:28pm
I think it's a safety system. And as it's slave's it's probably an alternative to a leash, only works for those who ride hooked in, and sucks for untwisting.

Still, these imagined limitation saside, I'm guessing that there's a loop that goes through the second hole and then one end up through the bar to your front line/s and the other end goes to your chicken loop (though I'm not sure how that helps. The loop attaches to your harness and if your chicken loop fails or unhooks involuntarily, the loop pulls through in such a way the your front line/s are pulled down to the bar, thereby depowering/flagging the kite like a regular front line flag, but with the bar still within reach so you can re-set it or self-rescue more easily.

And slave, I still would like to see pics of your custom chicken loop.
Poida
Poida
WA
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9 May 2010 12:01pm
hey slave,
how much of that windsurfing rope did you buy back in the day?
I have a whole lot of used 1m lengths if your idea takes off
lostinlondon
lostinlondon
VIC
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9 May 2010 6:43pm
Beersy said...

waveslave said...
It makes more sense NOT to have a hole (thru the bar) strengthwise.


That's true, but how often do bars actually snap. I've been using one bar on all three of my kites for 2 years now and it's not showing any signs of stress. So strengthwise, they're already up to the job, and adding appendages just adds more complexity.


When you think about it, most of the load is on the centre lines, not on the bar. The bar is only attached to the rear lines, which don't tend to have that much load on. The only time some load might come on the bar is when you are unhooked, but as I see it, guys hold the bar pretty much in the centre when they unhook most of the time.

This off axis hole looks pretty pointless if you ask me. Not to mention the drilling of holes and insertion of screws into the bar could induce a weak point(s) in the bar, right near the existing hole, where stress will be concentrated in the bar anyway.

Kind of like Homer Simpson putting tweed elbow patches on his leather jacket...
waveslave
waveslave
WA
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9 May 2010 8:55pm

djdojo said...

And slave, I still would like to see pics of your custom chicken loop.





Not really a chicken loop...maybe it's a chicken ring. ^^^
richswing
richswing
WA
724 posts
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9 May 2010 9:41pm
I know its a turkey ring or whatever Felix , Tophat and the boys call it. Ride fully powered, sh!t hits the fan release on your contraption.

Been looking at the vids of the boys and it definitely seems alot of power is lost with depower, you could ride quite a few sizes down!

Cheers
Rich
prea
prea
QLD
184 posts
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10 May 2010 9:31am
Post it on the Poleys forum they might have a use for it
nebbian
nebbian
WA
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10 May 2010 7:52am
What stops it from falling off your harness hook if you lose tension?
waveslave
waveslave
WA
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10 May 2010 8:36am
I have a donkey dick which is attached to my spreader bar. ^^^
I make my donkey dick by cutting off the 'horn' from a poley harness line.
This is a fail-proof donkey-dicking method and the chicken ring never comes out unintentionally.
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