poley areas, kite areas WTF?. you WA mob have all gone crazy. Where I live we all ride together, no hassels, everybody gets on, the way it should be

The best way to deal with localism is to put a few stickers on your car

eg:
1) A large "Winchester Rifles", Remington etc..... sticker accross the back window
2) I hunt and I VOTE sticker
3) Shooters Rights etc......

for full effect any of the above stickers should be accompanied by the mandatory Bundy, Jack or Jim sticker and a healthy use of foul language upon exiting the vehicle feel free to huck back some phlegm and spit it into the air to check wind strength also.........

NO ONE WILL EVEN SPEAK TO YOU....... LET ALONE ABUSE YOU.

stamp said...

harry potter said...

The best way to deal with localism is to put a few stickers on your car

eg:
1) A large "Winchester Rifles", Remington etc..... sticker accross the back window
2) I hunt and I VOTE sticker
3) Shooters Rights etc......

for full effect any of the above stickers should be accompanied by the mandatory Bundy, Jack or Jim sticker and a healthy use of foul language upon exiting the vehicle feel free to huck back some phlegm and spit it into the air to check wind strength also.........

NO ONE WILL EVEN SPEAK TO YOU....... LET ALONE ABUSE YOU.

you've never been to WA have you harry? no one would look twice at a car decked out like that, its pretty much standard

Ha ha ha very true..

Been to WA a few times and agree with your statement if you travel further North hence my accurate description
but in lancellin..... I'm not so sure.

Actually come to think of it almost every car at Wedge matched that description as did the passengers............. But it worked....... I didnt speak to any of them. And the place had a MAD MAX vibe...

So where is the best spot to actually kite at lano?

I am thinking about going up on Sunday.

I skim read over all the posts and I guess front in front of the club house is no good (looks crap anyway boats and moorings everywhere)

What about just north near the island?

www.google.com.au:443/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode&q=lancelin&sll=-25.335448,135.745076&sspn=67.418571,135.263672&ie=UTF8&hq&hnear=Lancelin+WA&ll=-31.0051,115.324388&spn=0.007927,0.016512&t=h&z=17

You can kite at the North Point as in your link, however the South Point at the very South end of the town is better, but as mentioned in the thread don't launch on the grassed area walk a bit further south towards the point or if you have a 4x4 drive down to the point.
The club house that you are refering to is probably actually the tavern and yes it is no good there.

www.google.com.au:443/maps?ie=UTF8&ll=-31.026956,115.324795&spn=0.009653,0.013711&t=h&z=16

you all have forgot that the park is bordered by a set of posts..
if you go outside those posts you are within your rights.
the ranger is full of hot air..he is always saying you will get a fine but have not heard of one being handed out...
just pump up on other side of posts...there are photos on gin gin website displaying the boundrys..he can't touch you...
as for werener..we all know he is a wanker but can't teach old dog new tricks..maybe he'll explode one day from all stress he causes himself..haha

KIT33R said...

.........How did this rift between kiters and windsurfers happen, anyway?.........

In one word.....Werner!

WAKSA has been in contact with the shire of Gin Gin due to recent problems.

It seems the issue was attacked too late mainly because of lack of information. Dont know where this is heading at the moment but here is the official responce from the head ranger.
We can use the park, just dont inflate the kite, leave it in the bag. Use the showers and any public facilitys, thats about it.




Thank you for your query regarding Kite surfing regulations in Lancelin.

Kite surfing activities have been prohibited from Grace Darling Park because of safety concerns raised by community members. This park is heavily used in season by many water activity user groups and families that picnic at the provided barbeques. It is thought that for best safety practice the activity of kite surfing should be undertaken away from this area. The two areas where kite surfing should be undertaken is to the south at the Edward Island beach or further to the north at 'the point'
The intent was not to discourage kite surfing in Lancelin but to move it to a more appropriate place.


At Council' s Ordinary meeting held on the 30th of April, 2009 the following resolution was passed.

Resolution 09.0112

Moved Councillor Brady that Council, consistent with Resolution 09.0059 and in the absence of any submissions regarding the matter:

1. Prohibit kite surfing activities from portion of Reserve 32942, Grace Darling Park, Lancelin including the beach area directly to the west;

2. Legitimise the existing signs prohibiting kite surfing activities from Portion of Reserve 32942, Grace Darling Park, Lancelin; and

3. Increase signage in order to encourage kite surfers to use the area in the vicinity of Edward Island Point.

CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY

'Kite surfing activities' would mean the setting up or packing up of the equipmnmet related to kite surfing as well as the actual activity itself.

To allow kite surfers to pump up their kite canopy on this area would be in breach of the regulation. Whilst I understand that that in itself would not present a serious hazard to the general public it would be very difficult for attending Rangers to Police the regulations if we were to allow some activities and not others.

The penalty for a breach of the regulations reads as follows;

10.3(1) Any person who fails to do anything required or directed to be done under this local law, or who does anything which under this local law that person is prohibited from doing , commits an offence.

(2)Any person who commits an offence under this local law is liable ,upon conviction , to a penalty not exceeding $5,000, and if the offence is of a continuing nature, to an additional penalty not exceeding $500 for each day or part of a day during which the offence has continued.

The prescribed modified penalty is $100-00.

Kite surfers are not forbidden to use any public facilities in Lancelin provided they are not undertaking kite surfing activities at Grace Darling Park.

I trust that the above clarifies your concerns. If you wish to see the entire agenda item from the Council meeting I can forward it to you. Thanks again for your enquiry.

So given your allowed to use the showers... what if you wash your board & harness?
Is that a kitesurfing activity?

tin snips work a treat

Abesy said...

dam movies they make me feel invincible
i dont box, im more of a palates kind of person

but if some poley charges at me on the water in an attempt to hurt or scare me off, i will fetch something hard from the car and at least confront him.
and it happens up there way too often!

like reporting on him (mainly one douche) is going to do anything... seriously!
it would be as useless as catching a car thief in the act and handing him into police. he will be let out as soon as you leave with a court summons he is never goin to turn up for anyway

i have no prob with the rules as to pumping up or even launching from that area as you can walk only 50m up the point and go from there, and there are too many families with kids, trees and poles out and around there.....

i think i even have one of them pathetic no kitesurfing signs in my shed
was a bitch to get off the pole though!!!

RayQ said...

Thank you for your query regarding Kite surfing regulations in Lancelin.

...

1. Prohibit kite surfing activities from portion of Reserve 32942, Grace Darling Park, Lancelin including the beach area directly to the west;

...

'Kite surfing activities' would mean the setting up or packing up of the equipmnmet related to kite surfing as well as the actual activity itself.
...

It appears the Ranger is simply making his own interpretation of what constitutes "kite surfing activities" in the regulations. I would have thought "kite surfing activities" refers to actual kitesurfing, not setting and packing up.

The regs do not appear to define "kite surfing activities". This is a somewhat ambiguous term. In terms of any offence, any ambiguity will be interpreted in favour of the offender. In the circumstances, there appears to be a good argument to defend any fine.

For example, when does the line between "non-kite surfing activities" and kite-surfing activities" start. Is it the night before when you are laying in bed thinking about the good session you are going to have in Lanno? Is it when you are packing up your car in Perth ready to go? Is it when you are taking your stuff out of the car in the carpark? (You get the point!)

Further, by analogy, does "surfing activities" include waxing your board on a non-surfing beach? Does "football activities" include putting your footy boots on in the changerooms before heading onto the field? I wouldn't have thought so.

Even a former US President did not consider "sexual relations" included oral sex!

If the Council's intention was that setting up kites in the Park should be banned, then the relevant regulation should have been made clear. Ie., "Prohibit kite surfing activity including but not limited to setting up and packing up kites ..."

And a further observation, in terms of a public nuisance to picnicing families, what is the difference between setting up a kite and setting up a windsurfer?

DISCLAIMER

This post is intended as a general comment in an internet forum. You should seek you own independent legal advice before relying on any part of it.

Anyone who actually coughs up a fine for inflating or packing a kite in the wanker's area is a cock head.

They can stick their fine up where the sun don't shine because I will never give them my name, I will tell the ranger get #$%^ and if they find out who I am from the rego of my car I would challenge it all the way to court.

I can already smell the goodie police red thumbing me for arrogant attitude and no respect for the laws in place.

My motto is if a law is stupid, it doesn't apply to me and this one is definately up there in my book.

Grow some balls and join the club

If Gin Gin and Lancillin were smart they would promote kiting in the designated area, maybe build a shade hut, a grassy launch area, showers and clean up the track for 2wd's - Its such a pity Werner & the 'bad ranger' seem so intent on giving kiters a hard time.

so f**k em

epoxy the bbq coin slot & graffiti the dunnys write 'poleys are gaylords' in diesel on the precious grass

sebol said...

Anyone who actually coughs up a fine for inflating or packing a kite in the wanker's area is a cock head.

They can stick their fine up where the sun don't shine because I will never give them my name, I will tell the ranger get #$%^ and if they find out who I am from the rego of my car I would challenge it all the way to court.

I can already smell the goodie police red thumbing me for arrogant attitude and no respect for the laws in place.

My motto is if a law is stupid, it doesn't apply to me and this one is definately up there in my book.

Grow some balls and join the club

Its an offence to not give a name, or to give a false name to a ranger (and the police for that matter). You won't be able to fight that one.

You are better off giving your details and then fighting the fine for undertaking "kite surfing activities" (if that is what you want to do!)

so is it ok to launch from in front of the endeavor tavern, just north of the main jetty??????