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campers
campers
WA
66 posts
WA, 66 posts
27 Nov 2008 6:24pm

Active ingredients on the tube I've got:

Benzophenone-3
Octinoxate
Octisalate
Octocrylene

Inactive ingredients:

Cyclopentasiloxane, Ethylene/VA Copolymer, C12-15 Alkyl Benzoate, VP/Eicosene Copolymer, PPG-15 Stearyl Ether, Helianthus Annus (Sunflower) Seed Oil, Aloe Barbadensis Leaf Extract, Propylparaben.

Here endeth today's chemistry lesson.


Here starts todays bio-chemistry lesson :)

If you're serious about choosing the best sunscreen then you need to look at the Environmental Working Group's recent round up of 952 sunscreens with extensive references to scientific studies on the ingredients.
http://www.cosmeticsdatabase.com/special/sunscreens2008/summary.php

The scary stat:
"Only 15% of 952 products analyzed met EWG's criteria for safety and effectiveness,"

A quick review of that ingredient list

Benzophenone-3 (Oxybenzone) - Hazzard score 8/10
www.cosmeticsdatabase.com/ingredient.php?ingred06=704372
"When benzophenone-3 penetrates into the skin, the level of Reactive Oxygen Species increases above that produced naturally under UV illumination."

Octinoxate - Hazzard score 4/10
www.cosmeticsdatabase.com/ingredient.php?ingred06=704203
"Octylmethoxycinnamate decreased the hormonal release significantly in male and female rats , potentially affecting the reproductive system and sexual maturation."

Octisalate - Hazzard score 3/10
www.cosmeticsdatabase.com/ingredient.php?ingred06=704204

Octocrylene - Hazzard 3/10
"Produces damaging reactive oxygen species upon exposure to sunlight"

Notice how a couple of these igredients produce more reactive oxygen species (ROS) than if you didnt use them. So while you might not get burnt, damage is still being done.

Many ROS's are also know as free radicals, which you may know you need to eat your fruits and vegies to get the anti-oxidants to balance them out.

Anything with zinc in is the way to go Personally I use this organic olive oil based sunscreen [disclaimer: girlfriends shop site] purchase.mionegroup.com/en/product/13430. (It only can say spf15 cause they have to pay the Theraputical Good Administration to claim more. labs test are ) It has extra anti-oxidants to mop up any damage. Diet is important too and I take a two pronged approach by supplementing with an antioxidant superfood purchase.berryradical.com which is like an internal sunscreen. The book 'The anti-cancer diet' by Dr David Servan-Schreiber is a good one to read.

Check out the EWG stuff any try either the one I use or anything from their recommendedl list. Once you go through the ingrdients you'll be able to work out what you want anyway. It's a bit of effort to learn about it but seeing how much we're in the sun its deadly important info.
Freeflow
Freeflow
QLD
133 posts
QLD, 133 posts
27 Nov 2008 10:29pm
campers said...


Active ingredients on the tube I've got:

Benzophenone-3
Octinoxate
Octisalate
Octocrylene

Inactive ingredients:

Cyclopentasiloxane, Ethylene/VA Copolymer, C12-15 Alkyl Benzoate, VP/Eicosene Copolymer, PPG-15 Stearyl Ether, Helianthus Annus (Sunflower) Seed Oil, Aloe Barbadensis Leaf Extract, Propylparaben.

Here endeth today's chemistry lesson.


Here starts todays bio-chemistry lesson :)

If you're serious about choosing the best sunscreen then you need to look at the Environmental Working Group's recent round up of 952 sunscreens with extensive references to scientific studies on the ingredients.
http://www.cosmeticsdatabase.com/special/sunscreens2008/summary.php

The scary stat:
"Only 15% of 952 products analyzed met EWG's criteria for safety and effectiveness,"

A quick review of that ingredient list

Benzophenone-3 (Oxybenzone) - Hazzard score 8/10
www.cosmeticsdatabase.com/ingredient.php?ingred06=704372
"When benzophenone-3 penetrates into the skin, the level of Reactive Oxygen Species increases above that produced naturally under UV illumination."

Octinoxate - Hazzard score 4/10
www.cosmeticsdatabase.com/ingredient.php?ingred06=704203
"Octylmethoxycinnamate decreased the hormonal release significantly in male and female rats , potentially affecting the reproductive system and sexual maturation."

Octisalate - Hazzard score 3/10
www.cosmeticsdatabase.com/ingredient.php?ingred06=704204

Octocrylene - Hazzard 3/10
"Produces damaging reactive oxygen species upon exposure to sunlight"

Notice how a couple of these igredients produce more reactive oxygen species (ROS) than if you didnt use them. So while you might not get burnt, damage is still being done.

Many ROS's are also know as free radicals, which you may know you need to eat your fruits and vegies to get the anti-oxidants to balance them out.

Anything with zinc in is the way to go Personally I use this organic olive oil based sunscreen [disclaimer: girlfriends shop site] purchase.mionegroup.com/en/product/13430. (It only can say spf15 cause they have to pay the Theraputical Good Administration to claim more. labs test are ) It has extra anti-oxidants to mop up any damage. Diet is important too and I take a two pronged approach by supplementing with an antioxidant superfood purchase.berryradical.com which is like an internal sunscreen. The book 'The anti-cancer diet' by Dr David Servan-Schreiber is a good one to read.

Check out the EWG stuff any try either the one I use or anything from their recommendedl list. Once you go through the ingrdients you'll be able to work out what you want anyway. It's a bit of effort to learn about it but seeing how much we're in the sun its deadly important info.


Valid info I'm sure, but looking at the bigger picture; there's alot more harmful s**t we come into contact with or do everyday (household cleaning products, driving a car etc.), so for me personally I'm not too fussed about the odd layer of sunblock.

I will however stop putting my Aloe Gator on my pet rat
tightlines
tightlines
WA
3509 posts
WA, 3509 posts
27 Nov 2008 10:48pm
Think I will stick to wearing my hat.
pintofpale
pintofpale
SA
229 posts
SA, 229 posts
28 Nov 2008 11:57am
Can you get aloe gator in Australia yet or is it only available online from the USA?
mattyjee
mattyjee
WA
575 posts
WA, 575 posts
28 Nov 2008 4:39pm
Just for the slower ones,
dihydrogen monoxide = H2O = water.
Its a piss-take.

Your aloe-gator is safe.

Freeflow
Freeflow
QLD
133 posts
QLD, 133 posts
28 Nov 2008 5:54pm
mattyjee said...


Your aloe-gator is safe.




Unless you smear it on a rat.
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