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ric

31 posts

ric

WA, 31 posts

11 Dec 2006 10:38am

There is a clear rule for right of way which everybody should follow.
Starboard tacking has right of way over port tacking.Example:on a S/SW at Scarb, going out from beach, you have got right of way over any one coming in towards the beach.So please:Heroes,cool dudes,fashion models, get the hell out the way.......
ric

jan

1119 posts

jan

WA, 1119 posts

11 Dec 2006 10:54am

erm isnt that port tack?

king of the point

1836 posts

king of the point

WA, 1836 posts

11 Dec 2006 10:57am

Self distruct, you water hogs.
Leave us windsurfing crew to it.
As for the kite fag putting stickers on the back of a heap of signs out bush.
Sorry about the wider brackets {kite kooks,****,***}

myes myes

223 posts

myes myes

WA, 223 posts

11 Dec 2006 11:01am

yeah jan's right going out it port tack in a seabreeze, people coming in have right of way over u ( this is not the same everywhere)

hosko

393 posts

hosko

WA, 393 posts

11 Dec 2006 11:35am

haaha you idiot ric

fver

453 posts

fver

WA, 453 posts

11 Dec 2006 11:37am

hehe

, that would explain some of the animosity we witness on the beach?!?

And King seems pretty pissed off!

brooksy

498 posts

brooksy

WA, 498 posts

11 Dec 2006 12:34pm

here's the fail safe rule:

Left hand forward has to give way!

Doing a turn has to give way to everyone unless they are jumping.

Jumping has to give way to everyone, period.

Upwind kite stays high, downwind kite has to stay low no matter what tack they are on.

kitecrazzzy

2184 posts

kitecrazzzy

WA, 2184 posts

11 Dec 2006 12:51pm

ROFLMAOCUGGIWFS-nah ive forgoten what it stands for already and i made it up

starboard tack is your right foot leading/your right hand leading/kite on your right/going towards the beach on the perth coast line
this doesnt change if you are ridding toe side

this rule should not be used unless we all know it and judging by rik's post some people dont know the rules.

now if you are both going in the same direction... the kiter down wind has right of way-can even make the other kiter change tack ect

enter the surf rules... i have no ****en idea but cut some one off thier wave and i think you are in the wrong 4 sure

brooksy

498 posts

brooksy

WA, 498 posts

11 Dec 2006 12:55pm

that's correct right foot or hand forward has right of way - left hand forward has to GIVE way.

Surf rules kind of depend - normally it is first person on the swell (even if it's way out the back) then most upwind and then closest to the breaking wave.

It's unwritten law that everyone should do their best to get out of the way of a person on the wave.

111111sam

36 posts

111111sam

36 posts

11 Dec 2006 12:58pm

stop using fancy lingo and stuff. All you need to know is the people cuttin out to see have all the fckin ocean to cut upwind and the people cuttin back in only have to the beach. So the people cutting in shoul dhave right of way. Make sense to me and that how we have always done it here and no trouble ever gets caused. So ric i am pretty sure u must be that hero/fashion model in everyone elses minds.

jan

1119 posts

jan

WA, 1119 posts

11 Dec 2006 1:23pm

quote:
Originally posted by kitecrazzzy
this rule should not be used unless we all know it and judging by rik's post some people dont know the rules.

These are well recognized international boating rules.

See ~~http://www.dpi.wa.gov.au/imarine/recboating/1179.asp~~ .

They are likely the rules that will be considered in any legal argument. There is also an overriding rule that states ALL vessels must endeavour to avoid a collision (consider a damaged vessel that is unable to turn well)

Surf rules etc are simply courtesy (and practical). Don't stuff up someone's wave and don't force someone into a pounding.

ric

31 posts

ric

WA, 31 posts

11 Dec 2006 2:06pm

Sorry mates, I meant port tacking.I just mentioned it because some guys just never give way, even in a simple plain trajectory.

ric.

amp

67 posts

amp

67 posts

11 Dec 2006 4:24pm

remember the old saying of, goes something like -
"there's no red port left"

waveslave

4263 posts

waveslave

WA, 4263 posts

11 Dec 2006 6:31pm

quote:
Originally posted by ric

Sorry mates, I meant port tacking.I just mentioned it because some guys just never give way, even in a simple plain trajectory.

ric.

lol
'Trajectory' means the line of flight thru the sky that you take after hacking a huge boost.
Right of way is established by simple communication.
Try eye-contact and hand signals, it works.

shithotkiter

VIC

30 posts

shithotkiter

VIC, 30 posts

11 Dec 2006 8:47pm

hey Ric,

did you drop this?

....(P)

i know it's probably silent but thought you could use it

kitecrazzzy

2184 posts

kitecrazzzy

WA, 2184 posts

11 Dec 2006 7:29pm

in reply to jan's comment; i know the rules, you know the rules, the next person you try use them on doesnt. the last person and you can get to know each other a lot better over a couple minuets sorting out tangled lines.

i know the rules and i use them to justify cutting people off (making them go into the shallows vs me going in) but i wouldnt trust them (kiter on port) to turn down wind and i always have a back up plan although crashing like that hardly ever happens.

time to go kiting ;p

ran

VIC

333 posts

ran

VIC, 333 posts

12 Dec 2006 10:03am

quote:
Originally posted by kitecrazzzy

in reply to jan's comment; i know the rules, you know the rules, the next person you try use them on doesnt. the last person and you can get to know each other a lot better over a couple minuets sorting out tangled lines.

i know the rules and i use them to justify cutting people off (making them go into the shallows vs me going in) but i wouldnt trust them (kiter on port) to turn down wind and i always have a back up plan although crashing like that hardly ever happens.

time to go kiting ;p

You use them to justify cutting people off??? Mate bad form, how about educating other people? Not everyone comes from a yachting or windsurfing background, they dont know, some bloody instructor hasn't taught them. How about doing the right thing?

[}:)]

ellery

VIC

187 posts

ellery

VIC, 187 posts

12 Dec 2006 5:35pm

If in doubt, give way.

kitecrazzzy

2184 posts

kitecrazzzy

WA, 2184 posts

12 Dec 2006 8:46pm

cutting people off is the realistic way of saying "enforcing your right of way" i only do it to guys i know

dachopper

1802 posts

dachopper

WA, 1802 posts

12 Dec 2006 9:12pm

really... all you need to do is not aim to hit the other person and you can forget about all the starboard / port crap...

if your going to pass below them put your kite low, and if your gonna pass just upwind of someone the put your kite high....and if you can see your aiming for someone early on then cut harder upwind or downwind early so that when you get close, you are upwind / downwind and it's impossible to collide, also move your kite hi / lo early to signal your intensions if your around beginnerish people.

and if you want to get really technical you can yell other stuff like

" mast abeam "
" walk the plank "
" water "
" arr me salty sea dogs "
" arr that be a fine kite loop you've got thaar "
" arr "

and then unfurl and hiost your protest flag up the 5th line when
no-one pays any attenion to your abuse.

stamp

QLD

2800 posts

stamp

QLD, 2800 posts

12 Dec 2006 11:20pm

do we have to do a 720 if we hit someone?

FlyingWhiteBoy

111 posts

FlyingWhiteBoy

WA, 111 posts

12 Dec 2006 10:41pm

I assume that every guy out there doesnt know the rules so I just give way every time even if they look like a pro. This is fine unless you are a **** kiter and cant kite upwind easily. This doesnt work for guys that have massive egos as a result of small genitals. If this is you then know that being a tool doesnt make them grow any bigger.

Dont be an arse clown. The guy you cut off one minute may be the dude that sees your board floating a km out on the ocean.

Murf1

256 posts

Murf1

WA, 256 posts

15 Dec 2006 11:10pm

Hi All

go the kooks ! you probably were at some stage - admit it!

well at present, Im a kook and all over the show, so best keep out of my way, whatever way you see it !

Monkeyfish

Its a real fish by the way, fast and defensive

jan

1119 posts

jan

WA, 1119 posts

16 Dec 2006 1:33pm

quote:
Originally posted by Monkeyfish

Hi All

go the kooks ! you probably were at some stage - admit it!

well at present, Im a kook and all over the show, so best keep out of my way, whatever way you see it !

Monkeyfish

Its a real fish by the way, fast and defensive

see this is the sort of bull**** attitude that needs to change

your a KOOK, LEARN THE RULES, STAY OUT OF PPLS WAY

it is NOT up to other water users to cater for you

kitecrazzzy

2184 posts

kitecrazzzy

WA, 2184 posts

16 Dec 2006 3:11pm

peli has become kook and the more server... euro kook Central, found myself going a couple km upwind to get away from it and i still had a kite miss me by like 1M as i was coming into land!

o yah jans right, learn etiquette and the rules before going out. a lot of learners have been getting this right lately but it takes one arrogant arse hole to ruin other peoples fun

now come in SEABREEZE!!

Jess

206 posts

Jess

WA, 206 posts

16 Dec 2006 4:02pm

"peli has become kook and the more server... euro kook Central"

Sorry kitecrazzy, we speak English in this forum, would you mind translating?

Janos is totally correct, ignorance of the international boating right of way rules is not an excuse. We are watercraft and fall under this category. If you're a learner and can't control your speed and direction in order to obey the rules, don't kite where everyone else is.

I'm getting sick of having to fling my kite out of the way at the last minute 200m off Scarborough when some ignorant beginner-intermediate refuses to give way. I accept they're trying to do the right thing by holding their line and signalling their intent early, but when I'm starboard and they're port, it's my luxury to maintain my line, not theirs.

Please learn the rules and we'll all be fine.

Jess

baggsy

QLD

118 posts

baggsy

QLD, 118 posts

17 Dec 2006 2:29pm

6 newbies all flying in all directions, who gets right of way??

the ones who can stay upright the logest!! HA HA HA HA

getfunky

4485 posts

getfunky

WA, 4485 posts

18 Dec 2006 3:37pm

Mmmm... anyone seen a Pink leading edge kite at Brighton wanting right of way on the way out AND on the way in? ... I should clear up that we are talking well clear of the break here... SIGH...

I can understand that every second kiter seems to have a differant take on who has ROW, but who really believes that they have ROW going in AND out from shore???

I am pretty cool with giving way in most situations (especially around the break, even if I do have the ROW)just to avoid agro or damage, but honestly, it seems some of the more 'experienced' (read: should know kn better) kiters tend to see an old kite and assume "kook/newby so get outta my way cause I'm posing for the camera and I am the only one who DESERVES a free run in and out with my spanking new gear that rockets upwind".

Very selfish and tiring. Eventually it comes down to getting pissed with losing ground to the same kiter and unexpectedly (for them anyway) holding my ROW line and giving them some verbal and one nasty tyre track in their wetty!

Anyhoo it's good to have a thread like this early in the season to try and get everyone on the same program... Now lets see if I am a good kiter get a nice bright new kite from santa then i can pss everyone else off! Oh please santa you creepy looking beardy please give me e new kite, I sooo want to be a goose too...

Just should not be neccessary, especially on occasions when there aren't many kites out

Merry chrissy to all the more considerate folk out there

kitecrazzzy

2184 posts

kitecrazzzy

WA, 2184 posts

18 Dec 2006 4:04pm

sorry severe not server

keithbavarianswearingbear

343 posts

keithbavarianswearingbear

WA, 343 posts

18 Dec 2006 5:49pm

And then there's the kn bloke who kites at Contacios in his blue kn speedos.

Suggest you stay out of his kn way, not because he doesn't know the kn ROW rules, but because he wears blue kn speedos

hosko

393 posts

hosko

WA, 393 posts

18 Dec 2006 5:57pm

quote:
Originally posted by getfunky

Mmmm... anyone seen a Pink leading edge kite at Brighton wanting right of way on the way out AND on the way in? ... I should clear up that we are talking well clear of the break here... SIGH...

I can understand that every second kiter seems to have a differant take on who has ROW, but who really believes that they have ROW going in AND out from shore???

I am pretty cool with giving way in most situations (especially around the break, even if I do have the ROW)just to avoid agro or damage, but honestly, it seems some of the more 'experienced' (read: should know kn better) kiters tend to see an old kite and assume "kook/newby so get outta my way cause I'm posing for the camera and I am the only one who DESERVES a free run in and out with my spanking new gear that rockets upwind".

Very selfish and tiring. Eventually it comes down to getting pissed with losing ground to the same kiter and unexpectedly (for them anyway) holding my ROW line and giving them some verbal and one nasty tyre track in their wetty!

Anyhoo it's good to have a thread like this early in the season to try and get everyone on the same program... Now lets see if I am a good kiter get a nice bright new kite from santa then i can pss everyone else off! Oh please santa you creepy looking beardy please give me e new kite, I sooo want to be a goose too...

Just should not be neccessary, especially on occasions when there aren't many kites out

mate i have a kite with a pink leading edge and kite at scabs. if you are referring to me then talk to me at the beach and don't whinge on the forum. i'm not a scary bloke so come have words. if it is me you're talking about then i don't know what you're on about because i make alot of effort of not getting in the way of someone who is about ready to 1: perform a trick or 2: ride a wave and beyond that i just do whatever everyone else does fly low if i'm downwind or fly high if i'm upwind.

quote:
Originally posted by getfunky

Merry chrissy to all the more considerate folk out there

merry christmas to all the whingers.....

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