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cRAZY Canuk
cRAZY Canuk
NSW
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19 Aug 2008 11:59am
Guy in Florida gets one hell of a beating, that building doesn't look soft!

http://cbs4.com/local/Kite.Surfer.las.2.798049.html
TheChad
TheChad
QLD
142 posts
QLD, 142 posts
19 Aug 2008 12:03pm
Yeah, definately looks painfull!

Hope he is alright
Kadkhah
Kadkhah
WA
381 posts
WA, 381 posts
19 Aug 2008 10:19am
With that speed he don't need a board any more
Lovely
Lovely
QLD
248 posts
QLD, 248 posts
19 Aug 2008 12:43pm
Looks like he tried to jump the C kite ready to be landed. Then the small kite he was flying dropped him hard and he over corrected and kite looped on landing.

Twat for boosting on the beach in the first place.

Check out the still, huge BOW style depower throw. But the depower didnt work in this wind, over confidence gave him a proper shafting

http://cbs4.com/local/Kite.Surfer.las.2.798049.html
GreenPat
GreenPat
QLD
4107 posts
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19 Aug 2008 1:27pm
"The incident is a very surreal reminder of the dangers inherent in Tropical Storm-force winds"

I don't see what's surreal about it, looks pretty lucid to me.
walshd
walshd
SA
601 posts
SA, 601 posts
19 Aug 2008 1:15pm
Ban parasailing in Florida I say!!

Luckily no kiteboarders were stupid enough to go out in that storm.


The end of the news report said he was OK. He'd better buy a lottery ticket after that one!!
tightlines
tightlines
WA
3510 posts
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19 Aug 2008 11:50am
If you watch the video on the first link right through there is a second video that
talks about the "parasailers" accident and apparently the word from his friends is that he is going to be ok. That is not the official word but what paramedics supposedly told his friends at the scene. Judging by the fact that he was even going out in those sort of winds you would have to assume he was reasonably experienced yet it doesn't look like he even let go of the bar let alone pulled his QR. It can all go pear shaped so quick so I urge everyone please practice dropping the bar and pulling your release, and don't be afraid to do it as soon as you are in a situation where you feel uncomfortable, it is not that hard to untangle lines. If you are scared about landing the kite and feel you are about to be lofted it is probably better to just go to safety. Or better still keep an eye on the approaching weather and don't let yourself get in that situation. The accident occured at Fort Lauderdale Florida in Tropical Storm Fay.
Velocity
Velocity
WA
185 posts
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19 Aug 2008 12:00pm
tightlines said...
Judging by the fact that he was even going out in those sort of winds you would have to assume he was reasonably experienced

The accident occured at Fort Lauderdale Florida in Tropical Storm Fay.


Which part of "experienced" and kiting in Tropical Storm Fay go together?
tightlines
tightlines
WA
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19 Aug 2008 12:05pm
Velocity said...

tightlines said...
Judging by the fact that he was even going out in those sort of winds you would have to assume he was reasonably experienced

The accident occured at Fort Lauderdale Florida in Tropical Storm Fay.


Which part of "experienced" and kiting in Tropical Storm Fay go together?



Yep good observation there Velocity, sometimes you should just sit in your car and eat a pie.
GreenPat
GreenPat
QLD
4107 posts
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19 Aug 2008 2:18pm
Mmmm pies....

I have some vague recollections of my early days when I was getting thumped up and down the beach. Of that first touchdown after being hauled into the air becoming the instinctive time to pull the QR, the kite depowering and the spanking coming to an end. Can't say I've had any serious thumpings on land for a while, but I still practice with the QR regularly.
Saffer
Saffer
VIC
4501 posts
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19 Aug 2008 2:29pm
Lovely said...

Looks like he tried to jump the C kite ready to be landed. Then the small kite he was flying dropped him hard and he over corrected and kite looped on landing.

Twat for boosting on the beach in the first place.

Check out the still, huge BOW style depower throw. But the depower didnt work in this wind, over confidence gave him a proper shafting

http://cbs4.com/local/Kite.Surfer.las.2.798049.html


I don't think he was trying to jump anything, I think the first gust lifted him and then he landed badly and couldn't release.
laurie
laurie
QLD
3902 posts
QLD, 3902 posts
19 Aug 2008 3:02pm
urrgh .. that was a sickening vision ...
Mr float
Mr float
NSW
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19 Aug 2008 3:06pm
yes well we've all got something to say about this .

his friends either didn't mention ,or were't quoted as saying " WHAT DO YOU EXPECT WHEN YOU GO OUT WITH ANYTHING BIGGER THAN A HANKEE IN A BLOODY CYCLONE AND HOOK YOURSELF TO IT "
who cares how many quick releases you've got ya
git!

Lovely
Lovely
QLD
248 posts
QLD, 248 posts
19 Aug 2008 3:08pm
Why did he run and send the kite back?

Looks like there was a crowd trying to save his C kiter mate.
I recon he thought he would show them all he could do a jump and simply depower his bow kite. It's my evil thought for the day [}:)]
sci
sci
WA
762 posts
sci sci
WA, 762 posts
19 Aug 2008 3:11pm
If you are going to put a kite up in that weather then expect to get rolled. Or he spotted the camera and thought 'heres my 10 seconds 'FISHPOLE IT!
Mr float
Mr float
NSW
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19 Aug 2008 5:25pm
Seriously tho

2 things come to mind and sunsequent lessons can be learnt .Florida is notorious for light wind and no doubt when the wind came up with the storm and things looked wicked for a high wind session (as they did at the end of the news story where the guy is out while the guy is rounding out the story) the local crew got raging hard ons and headed out .The big blow came through and the rest is history .We have had crappola winds for nearly a year and when we get a big southerly blow and some good swell no doubt our local crew will be heading out (and have done so in the past ) BEWARE FOLKS there will always be wind at some time in the future and if in doubt go without (yes I know the pain can be hard ,especially if you have taken the day off to make the most of it ,but not half as painful as your brain passing through your eye sockets as your head comes to a screaming halt as it meets the concrete wall)

Perhaps the camera crew filming the " mad" kitesurfers kind of spurred them on to put on a show ,again don't let the desire to be famous for 10 seconds on tonights weather shot allow common sense and good judgement to go out the window

Be safe have fun
lotofwind
lotofwind
NSW
6451 posts
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19 Aug 2008 7:48pm
I feel sick
jumpindave
jumpindave
WA
124 posts
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19 Aug 2008 6:11pm
windgardium leviosssssaaaaaaa!!!!!
burley
burley
VIC
132 posts
VIC, 132 posts
19 Aug 2008 8:15pm
Yep, My girlfriend and i saw something very similar a few years back at St Kilda Beach. The guy nearly hit the wall, he was smashed up real good and thats without hitting anything.
Anyway, that day i also was given a brand new 10mtr kite by my girlfriend
, she has struggled with the sport since that day.
But i persistantly keep buying her new 10 mtr kites to use, and unfortunatly she keeps sooking out and giving them to me.
Oh WELL.
GreenPat
GreenPat
QLD
4107 posts
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19 Aug 2008 9:21pm
That sounds like a tough life, how many 10s have you been through?
Coral Sea
Coral Sea
QLD
476 posts
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19 Aug 2008 9:45pm
If you have a close look at the footage around 0:40 and watch him accelerate up and off the ground then straight downwind at high speed, that can only come from a kite looping back toward the water.

Maybe a rider error, maybe a gear failure...bottom line is kiting in a tropical storm with clouds like that in the background and concrete buildings within a few 100m, it's going to be a bad time for anything to go wrong.

Makes you really wonder about the power of looping kites in high winds.....I'm going to be doubly careful next time I pull the trigger on the 8m in 25+

Anyway, lets have some compassion for the guy, his family and friends. We all make mistakes, he has made one now too, and has paid a very heavy price.

Could be one of us next time.................
Mr float
Mr float
NSW
3452 posts
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20 Aug 2008 9:38am

Anyway, lets have some compassion for the guy, his family and friends. We all make mistakes, he has made one now too, and has paid a very heavy price.

Could be one of us next time.................



Your kidding right ?(mr groovy buddhisty type sand drawing photo guy.)
Imagine if his brains had have been splatted .then it would have made the channel 10 nightly news or worse the channel 9 ,7 , SBS and ABC and not only would kiteboarding have been banned there but by the nanny state (wrap us all up in cotton wool) here as well

Uoh alright .....I wish you and your family all the best and hope that your recovery is as fast and painless as possible (ya goose)
myusernam
myusernam
QLD
6160 posts
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20 Aug 2008 9:55am
neoniphon said...

If you have a close look at the footage around 0:40 and watch him accelerate up and off the ground then straight downwind at high speed, that can only come from a kite looping back toward the water.

Maybe a rider error, maybe a gear failure...bottom line is kiting in a tropical storm with clouds like that in the background and concrete buildings within a few 100m, it's going to be a bad time for anything to go wrong.

Makes you really wonder about the power of looping kites in high winds.....I'm going to be doubly careful next time I pull the trigger on the 8m in 25+

Anyway, lets have some compassion for the guy, his family and friends. We all make mistakes, he has made one now too, and has paid a very heavy price.

Could be one of us next time.................


I agree. Just because mr float has learnt all his lessons doesn't mean you can't feel compassionate about newbies or gumbies....everyone was one once and probably got their ambitions mixed up with their capabilities a few times..... and this guy was experienced according to the article.

There was so much wind there by the looks of it I dont reckon he would have to have looped his kite...if he had a big kite up and a front come over he could have been that overpowered that his kite was flapping and foldind and doing all sorts of crazy stuff(especially if his bladder had gone down a bit). When your'e super overpowered on a windsurfer sail (like a big storm gusts) the luff can actually buckle and give you a reverse camber and push the sail towards you. I am sure kites could do the same?
vader
vader
NSW
418 posts
NSW, 418 posts
20 Aug 2008 11:42am
well that made me wince. poor bastard.
even if your the best rider in the world sh#t can go wrong so have your below the bar safety hooked up when flying in unpredictable winds so you only have to pull one qr to flag out. that was horrible.
Mr float
Mr float
NSW
3452 posts
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20 Aug 2008 2:19pm
Um ,how about be prepared to eat s%*t if you go kiting in a cyclone ,the chances of this happening are hugely magnified even if youve got 5 QR's under ,over ,flag out what ever .

Actually just going kiting in whatever has its hazards , good rule of thumb ,expect the unexpected
.
Did you know that many serious knee injuries with skis are people falling over in the lift line with a slow twist of the knee and ankle (not enough to rellease the binding)


vader said...

well that made me wince. poor bastard.
even if your the best rider in the world sh#t can go wrong so have your below the bar safety hooked up when flying in unpredictable winds so you only have to pull one qr to flag out. that was horrible.


NJPornstar
NJPornstar
WA
790 posts
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20 Aug 2008 12:32pm
Its good to have your safety leash attached full time to a flagging line. The worst always happens when you least expect it. Like this bloke in Florida on the news.

This is a video of a single action release and how to successfully land your kite the quickest way in cyclonic squals.



There are no moving parts on the kites to surprise the rider. All the kite control is in your hands in reach and its up to you how you use it.
www.newkiteboarding.com
poor relative
poor relative
WA
9106 posts
WA, 9106 posts
20 Aug 2008 12:36pm
Doesn't matter what safety you have.
If it happens in a 40-50knot squall on a 9m+ kite its gonna happen fast, real fast no time to do anything except say F**k
sandgroper
sandgroper
WA
368 posts
WA, 368 posts
20 Aug 2008 12:41pm
At 0:16 to 0:17 he gets picked up and lofted what seems to be about 40-50m. In the next second he seems to accelerate in the air. This suggests he was moving in the order of 160kph or more.

What strikes me is that while the medics are unsure if he'll live, his so called "friends" are in complete denial that he's not going to be ok. If his "friends" are that ignorant, it doesnt say much for this guys mentality or that of the other guys on the beach who put their kites up in storm that even has its own name.

So is Kitesurfing a dangerous sport, or is it that some people who do it are dangerously ignorant of the hazards ?

Hands up anyone who has gone (or would go) out in an approaching cyclone....
NJPornstar
NJPornstar
WA
790 posts
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20 Aug 2008 12:48pm
I do. But not if its raining or I get my hair wet.
ade r
ade r
NSW
102 posts
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20 Aug 2008 3:17pm
the real story:

fksa.org/showthread.php?p=35987#post35987


courtesy ianc
Reflex Films
Reflex Films
WA
1463 posts
WA, 1463 posts
20 Aug 2008 1:35pm
As claimed by some manufacturers

"100% depower on bow style kites"

i always thought that was an irresponsible claim to make.

And if crew can claim to hold 16s and 14s in 35 knots then surely its possible to hold down a 9 in 40 ... or maybe not in the real world.
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