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sir ROWDY
sir ROWDY
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15 Aug 2009 10:33am
dude, show me how someone is going to do a mobe 7 with their kite low going at walking pace...... I think you will find that is impossible.
What is a "low mobe"?...

p.s. Yeah numnutz, there are some old mobe5's in those vids which is so sick especially seeing it was so long ago, but i was saying i havent seen any BS mobe 5's. as in blind freddo 5s that were legit.
andyy
andyy
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15 Aug 2009 3:12pm
I'm saying that most of the wake guys ride at about walking pace. No trick done at walking pace a foot off the water is impressive.

And Aaron has done a legit Mobe 7.
sir ROWDY
sir ROWDY
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15 Aug 2009 1:46pm
I don't know if you noticed... but so do most of the straps guys to.... and your point is?
I agree, no trick done slow and low is impressive.
Ok so so you have seen "Aaron do 1..." but "I" have never seen one. Post a vid if you have it.
NumNutz
NumNutz
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403 posts
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15 Aug 2009 6:15pm
you should be throwing ur tricks with a gps strapped to ur arm so u can up load how fast u were throwing down on ur personal computer.
lotofwind
lotofwind
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6451 posts
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15 Aug 2009 6:47pm
yas should be kiteing in the waves anyway,that flatwater stuff is ghay you might as well be poledancers
sir ROWDY
sir ROWDY
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15 Aug 2009 4:55pm
I am kiting in the waves.... how else am i going to get up in the air. After all thats what waves are there for.
decdok
decdok
VIC
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15 Aug 2009 7:26pm
a c-kite
andyy
andyy
QLD
232 posts
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15 Aug 2009 11:45pm
sir ROWDY said...

Ive never even seen a mobe 7 kiting....... ive seen a double ass pass (aka pullup) but no mobe 7.


Then I said:
Aaron did the best ever mobe 7 in Coche back in 2006. Going about 1000000 miles an hour with the kite super low. (Rebuttal for your claim of double pullup)
I think this is better than a 'legit low mobe' haha going about walking pace with the kite a little lower than Aaron's mobe 7. (New point saying how much better a good mobe 7 is than a lame mobe)
If the wake guys want to do a real mobe they'll have to up their pace to over walking speed and pretend there is at least some risk in doing a 'low mobe'. (Pure Rabble but continuing of from previous comment)

How is this confusing??

Rowdy you post so much rabble you don't know who's rabbling and who's not.
sir ROWDY
sir ROWDY
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16 Aug 2009 8:58am
Yes... and you still don't understand... lol I'm not the confused one.
"I" said "I" have never seen a "mobe 7" kiting.... whether you have or not makes no difference.
I don't get this "wake guys", "walking pace" thing.... lol. I could easily pigeon hole every strapper and say they need to stop taking their board off if they want to do a mobe 7... Just because there are kooks out there riding slow in bindings doesn't mean they all are... hell there's enough kooks out there riding straps as well thats for damn certain lol.

p.s. I also still don't understand how you could do a "legit" "mobe 7" going at "about walking pace" hahaha, i think you will find its impossible to get high enough to do a legit mobe 7 with your kite low if you are only going walking pace.... Thus any mobe 7 with your kite actually low would have to be legit, by virtue of how fast you would have to go to get enough height to pull it.
djdojo
djdojo
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16 Aug 2009 12:02pm
I suspect this thread could have the legs to get to more pages and go more wildly off topic than "surfari lodges fiji."

Keep sledging lads, keep making obscure references, and keep refusing to address the original topic, which seemed like asking for a bunfight anyway.

Perhaps a youtube of Wainman riding boots at about the speed of light is in order?

btw, who's feeling inspired to re-ignite the surfari lodges thread with a new dimension of surreality?
sir ROWDY
sir ROWDY
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16 Aug 2009 11:14am
djdojo said...

btw, who's feeling inspired to re-ignite the surfari lodges thread with a new dimension of surreality?


I think I got a massive clue.......
Charl dv
Charl dv
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16 Aug 2009 12:22pm
that 4th place postition is getting to your head andy, think you should get your head out of the clouds there you sky merchant
andyy
andyy
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16 Aug 2009 8:05pm
sir ROWDY said...


p.s. I also still don't understand how you could do a "legit" "mobe 7" going at "about walking pace" hahaha, i think you will find its impossible to get high enough to do a legit mobe 7 with your kite low if you are only going walking pace.... Thus any mobe 7 with your kite actually low would have to be legit, by virtue of how fast you would have to go to get enough height to pull it.


I agree. When and where did I say you could do a legit mobe 7 at walking pace??
sir ROWDY
sir ROWDY
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16 Aug 2009 6:27pm
Lol i thought you were talking about mobe 7s.... since you were comparing it to an example of kite height in a mobe 7... it would have made sense. Reading back though i can see what u are saying, however your sentence structure was misleading.

This also mislead me,
""If the wake guys want to do a real mobe they'll have to up their pace to over walking speed and pretend there is at least some risk in doing a 'low mobe'.""

Ive seen heaps of wake guys do real mobes.... am i confused or didn't the trick "mobe" come from wakeboarding itself? and if i'm not mistaken first done by a wake guy on a two line kite.....

I think if strap guys gonna pretend there is some risk in riding "mega powered" doing "wakestyle" in foot hooks with their there kite so far back in time that it's panel layout has yet to even been sketched, they need to at least grow a sack and put some bindings on so someone will at least take them half seriously.
Adrenalin Rush
Adrenalin Rush
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876 posts
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16 Aug 2009 9:01pm
Back on topic.


SLE, open Arc C kites, are great for wakestyle / Freestyle. For the average rider like most of us are, these kites are going to be the better choice because the style of kite allow for a massive range of use.

If you are riding for your self and not for a company, then in my opinion get an SLE that is designed for freestyle. It will allow you to do all the base wake and freestyle moves you want, with the benefits of huge wind range, lots of depower which makes it safer to learn and progress quicker.

The day you get good enough to place in comps and or the day you feel held back because you cannot finally land that hadle pass move should be the day to head to C kites. I dont feel there is much need to limit your range unless you have the dollars to invest in 3 C kites.

From what I have tested so far this year, I feel the following would be worth looking at for what you want

-Best Nemesis NXG
-North Vegas or Rebel.
-Cabrinha Switchblade worked as well.
-Cant comment really on the Naish Cult because of lack of wind for the size we had.
-Slingshot RPM

If you cant find something that works from this line up then there is something wrong.






ewan kite
ewan kite
VIC
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16 Aug 2009 10:07pm
pretty decent mobe 7 at 2.35, the kite isnt sssuuupper low but its def not a dangle pass

sir ROWDY
sir ROWDY
WA
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16 Aug 2009 8:48pm
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I think we got a different deffinition of the word "decent".... And that deffinetly can't be called a mobe 7.... It's a double dangle pass.

p.s. cant believe i sat through that.
Its claiming/naming stuff like that so wrong that makes this sport a joke to any other credible board sport.
Charl dv
Charl dv
WA
2485 posts
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16 Aug 2009 8:59pm
arsa said...

Back on topic.


SLE, open Arc C kites, are great for wakestyle / Freestyle. For the average rider like most of us are, these kites are going to be the better choice because the style of kite allow for a massive range of use.

If you are riding for your self and not for a company, then in my opinion get an SLE that is designed for freestyle. It will allow you to do all the base wake and freestyle moves you want, with the benefits of huge wind range, lots of depower which makes it safer to learn and progress quicker.

The day you get good enough to place in comps and or the day you feel held back because you cannot finally land that hadle pass move should be the day to head to C kites. I dont feel there is much need to limit your range unless you have the dollars to invest in 3 C kites.

From what I have tested so far this year, I feel the following would be worth looking at for what you want

-Best Nemesis NXG
-North Vegas or Rebel.
-Cabrinha Switchblade worked as well.
-Cant comment really on the Naish Cult because of lack of wind for the size we had.
-Slingshot RPM

If you cant find something that works from this line up then there is something wrong.











when you start unhooking all the depower in the world doesnt mean shyt.. any kites usable unhooked range is roughly the same size for size and as soon as you start trimming it it flies like a bag of dicks. therefore it doesnt matter what your on in that regard as either way you will need the same amount of kites to use in the same wind range, c bow sle hybrid what ever. just because you can push the bar out to kill power doesnt mean you can use that same depower while unhooked. and once you depower a kite, ESPECIALLY SLE KITES past a certain point they just fly forward and make unhooking a complete dog.


oh and the thing about team riders aswell is its not like they ride C because they are told to, you'd be suprised that some companies would way rather have them on the SLE's n Hybrids to show the average joes that they are good kites. afterall team riders promote the gear to the public so they should be promoting gear everyone wants to ride.
Adrenalin Rush
Adrenalin Rush
QLD
876 posts
QLD, 876 posts
16 Aug 2009 11:43pm
Charl dv said...

arsa said...

Back on topic.


SLE, open Arc C kites, are great for wakestyle / Freestyle. For the average rider like most of us are, these kites are going to be the better choice because the style of kite allow for a massive range of use.

If you are riding for your self and not for a company, then in my opinion get an SLE that is designed for freestyle. It will allow you to do all the base wake and freestyle moves you want, with the benefits of huge wind range, lots of depower which makes it safer to learn and progress quicker.

The day you get good enough to place in comps and or the day you feel held back because you cannot finally land that hadle pass move should be the day to head to C kites. I dont feel there is much need to limit your range unless you have the dollars to invest in 3 C kites.

From what I have tested so far this year, I feel the following would be worth looking at for what you want

-Best Nemesis NXG
-North Vegas or Rebel.
-Cabrinha Switchblade worked as well.
-Cant comment really on the Naish Cult because of lack of wind for the size we had.
-Slingshot RPM

If you cant find something that works from this line up then there is something wrong.











when you start unhooking all the depower in the world doesnt mean shyt.. any kites usable unhooked range is roughly the same size for size and as soon as you start trimming it it flies like a bag of dicks. therefore it doesnt matter what your on in that regard as either way you will need the same amount of kites to use in the same wind range, c bow sle hybrid what ever. just because you can push the bar out to kill power doesnt mean you can use that same depower while unhooked. and once you depower a kite, ESPECIALLY SLE KITES past a certain point they just fly forward and make unhooking a complete dog.


oh and the thing about team riders aswell is its not like they ride C because they are told to, you'd be suprised that some companies would way rather have them on the SLE's n Hybrids to show the average joes that they are good kites. afterall team riders promote the gear to the public so they should be promoting gear everyone wants to ride.


For the average punter, SLE's are the most versatile over a large wind range. What I am trying to say, if the original poster is still at the beginner stage of unhooking, then I suggest sticking with an SLE because of the already mentioned benefits.

Believe me I understand what team riders are and are not asked to ride. If you are a team rider and your gear is free then this is where you are able to have a quiver of C kites to be able to make use of every change in wind strength. However for the avaerage pounter, you will get a lot more miles and save the bucks if you stay with SLE's.

The max depower thing. yes doesnt mean **** when you are unhooking, but again the average rider will appreciate the max depower when stacking it over and over again whilst trying to progress. The relaunch is at most times better and a lot less frustrating meaning a clearer mind and more time riding.

Im not a C hater by all means. Just answeing the guys post with a realistic approach to what is available on the market today. If he wants to ride a C kite all good. I just feel that SLE have come a long way since 2006, and many brands are bringing out Open C SLE for the every day kiters that want the most from their gear for the best buck.




Charl dv
Charl dv
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16 Aug 2009 9:52pm
dont get me wrong here either. not bagging SLE kites either. if you look back you will see i suggested the RPM over the fuel for "wakestyle"

only benefits of a c kite really is if you know how to pop properly you get a bit more slack in the lines for passes, the control is a bit more direct and crisp and if you want kiteloops and crap like that they are more predictable in the power delivery and also deliver way more power through the loop.. if ur using a real C that is.

I will probably be rocking out on bridle kites next season too simply for the relaunch and resale value seeing as the performance for what i want, which is pretty much jsut unhooked is good enough
NJPornstar
NJPornstar
WA
790 posts
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16 Aug 2009 11:11pm
For sure you can tune up a high lift SLE and ride unhooked.
No doubt about it.
But the problem with flatter/wider arcs is landing tricks unhooked.
Wider arc kites back wind far easier than a C kite when landing hot.

You would understand what I mean if you have landed a few high loaded stuntz.

Its also a myth that C kites dont have much top end. The NEW range of kites have more than most popular SLEs.
We need good top end in this part of the world, especially for charging larger waves.




Charl dv
Charl dv
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16 Aug 2009 11:29pm
yer must agree there. i was on a 8m at kitestock n i was out pretty mch whole event
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