If you click on this link, www.kiteboarder.be/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=341&Itemid=31&lang=en download the video and watch it you will see that their new wave bar isn't really very good, because you can do that with any 5 line kite and also have a full safty system. All you need to do is clip your 5th line safty to the 5th line loop and your spreader bar, unhook and the more you streach your arm out the more depower you get.IT WORKS...TRY IT

Tried that a while ago testing new stuff for Airush , you do depower the kite but you lose a lot of steering .
It works but no real advantage .

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Originally posted by Kite -Kid

u dont need to weld you attach it to your spreader bar loop thingy where the chicken loop goes STUPID!!!

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Not quite kiddie... have a good look... it's a loop atop the chicken loop hook. Two hooks on the one spreader bar. STOOPID!!!!

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What you are refering to is the "Wipika surf system"

and I did make my own version to try it's effectiveness.

I actually tried it on an Impact 13, and yes it would work on any 5th line kite.

it very simply allows you to keep power control while being unhooked, so by extending your arm for unhooked waveriding you can dump all power for your bottom turns.

I have all the facilities right here to make these spreader bars etc. but wouldn't be bothered. So have ordered a few.

the 2nd hook allows you to set the surf system and still be able to hook in and out unhindered thus not looking stoopid.

It is simple and of course most will say " why didn't we see it sooner" and the like. the fact is wipika have and are producing them for all those who like the idea and wnat one. those that don't can do their own thing.

At any rate Kite-kiddy I'm sure Wipika thanks you for the posting.

Hi Guys and Girls,

Let me get this straight. So really, if you are riding surf unhooked and then you hook in to the fifth line to manage the power, is it hooked in riding or unhooked? It is probably easier to just keep the chicken loop hooked into the hook and then you don't need any fancy shmancy bar with two hooks. You can just sheet in and out as required.

I mean, the added degree of difficulty riding unhooked is because you have to deal with the "all or nothing" power of not being hooked in to depower,it requires a different approach to wave riding to ride unhooked. It takes away that degree of difficulty and puts you right back in with the hooked in riders. I don't see the point

I don't think it will catch on but kep the progression coming anyway!

Good winds,

the benefits are one little thing that makes all the difference:
STYLE!
you can lay out and surf the wave with the pull coming from your arms rather than being pulled by ur hips where you are hooked in.
doesnt really make much of a difference with twintips but with a surfboard makes all the difference.

try it some time, it may help...

Unhooking gives your body heaps more freedom...and is probaly easier!
Having said that, a lot of the crew at scarbs who ride hooked in are killing it anyway
Surfboards...the way to go

Oh yeh nearly forgot to mention the stopper balls.
With out these your 5th line will jam when unhooked in the bar. No good in and out movement.
Have a couple mates using wave system on Slingshot bars with out the cleats but the Wipika bar works the best.

Correct me if I'm wrong, if your using a 5th line kite/system at present and your leash attaches below the bar you could make one of these systems your self without the double hook ?.

Connect the end of your 5th line to your spreader bar with a quick release(may have to extend your 5th line a few inch's). Have your leash attached so if you pull the quick release it still saves your kite from flying off. I recon it would function in the same manner .

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people never rip hooked in. they try and they have twin tips or something else lame like a tiny directional with straps and throw "massive ultra cool sprays" but they are by no means "ripping" ask any good surfer what they think and they will say stuff like:
"what is that guy doing he is doing turns in the wrong part of the wave"
or "when is he gonna ride in the pocket"
or " why does he poke his ass out"
or "why does he drag him bum in the water after turns"
or "do you have to have your arms up in the air like that it looks real wierd"
or the most asked one "cant you just let go when you want to do a turn it would look way better"

so anything thats getting everyone further away from "massive power" ,"hooked in puffness", and "straps" is a good thing for everyone as far as style and getting some respect for the sport goes.

I recon the Wipika guys have tried all the different solutions like mentioned. Probably why its like it is.
Need the option to pass the bar easily with out openning clips and rearranging too much when unhooked.

Kite-Kid is a cocky lil phucker. What say we intro him to the time honoured tradition of grommet abuse.

Ever 'spit the winkle' Kite-Kid?

hey Ben De Jonge y dont u just calm down and ease up!!!no need for abuse well u can do da grommet abuse thingy and i'll teach you to kiteboard while were at it!!!








just kidding!!!

think again! just compare the number of waves you **** up cause you have a kite in your hand pulling you in the wrong place, its no comparison to good surfing.

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Originally posted by assmaster

think again! just compare the number of waves you **** up cause you have a kite in your hand pulling you in the wrong place, its no comparison to good surfing.

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think again! just compare the number of waves surfers **** up cause they dont have a kite in their hands pulling them into the right place, its no comparison to good kite surfing.

I'm having a ball myself, at your expense Kite Kiddo.

Cocky means arrogant, up your self. Maybe you can teach me to kite and I can teach you Aussie English.