Tell us if you think they will get this boat off the beach in 1 piece

No. They'll get it off, but piece by piece and year by year.

So nobody's kiting at Nobby's at the moment then?

reckon it'd form some great banks for surfing, right and a left of each side

What about putting one of these babies up while the westerlies are blowing?
foxxaero.homestead.com/indsail_028.html
Might save a few million in supertugs and broken cables!

Only the front half.

slave, i reckon if ya take the oil out, the thing will implode and break up. crap situation for locals.

looks like a job 4 the gas axe.

Its going to break in half, spill some fuel, kill a gold fish or two, then get gas axed, and in six months time it will be Pasha Bulker who!

I don't think there is any way it is going to break up , it's a couple years old and has a few scraches on the bottom??? it hasn't been torpedo'd or hit an ice burg doing 40 kts, it just slowly ran aground like a dingy when you come into a beach on some rocks.

they have allready pumped oil into the safer tanks inside the ship so there's probably no chance of any spill even if it just sits there for months rubbing the bottom, cause its not rubbing near the tanks. They would send guys inside to patch the damage up anyway?

Too much over-reaction I think, if it were EVER going to leak it would have done it in the 40kt flood storm with huge seas that smashed it onto the reef in the first place..

I always knew they would get it floating again.
Na I thought it would be heading back to Korea as scrap metal, but no it is mooving.

Keep the updates coming...I'm on dialup for a week whilst my server sends out a new modem. CW won't stream like broadband does for me unfortunately. Must be a relief for all those involved tyo see it moving...

I told ya so[}:)]

Just heard on sunrise news program this morning that they are trying to contain a small oil leak they have discovered after moving the ship more then 90 degrees last night.

Lets hope it doesnt turn into anything major!!

Angie xx

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Originally posted by jquigley

Hey Waveslave,

I thought I put what I said about oil spills in context of not being a good thing and why wouldn't they take every precaution to avoid it, ie, pump the oil off the ship?

Oil is something that occurs in the natural environment and mother nature does have a way of dealing with it. I thought this was interesting and whether you like it or not it's a fact. You selectively quoted me so readers could take my comments out of context. You didn't even qoute the full sentence.

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Jquigley,
Sorry for the misunderstanding...
but I was confused by your fence-sitting.

On one hand you say pump out the oil...
and then on the other hand you say;
well,if the oil spills that's ok too...
The bacteria will fix it.
lol.

I just don't think it's ok to turn the environment into a sewer,
especially if there was a good chance to avoid the problem in the first place.

But really it's just about the money...
it's always about the money.

Yeh, ok I guess it did sound a bit rich, sorry if you thought I was advocating we have a 700 tonne oil spill.

Thanks for the apology by the way, my nose is still bleeding but thanks.

As for my comment on oil not being very toxic: I worked as a fitter for 15 years and had the occasional oil bath, hydraulic hose burst in front of me, etc and I can say it's not a pleasant experience but you can get covered in the stuff, get it in your eyes even swallow it without any real adverse effects. It's not toxic in the sense that it causes a chemical reaction and shuts down your nervous system or something akin to cyanide or arsenic. But obviously wreaks havoc on the environment because of it's physical properties ie, sticks like the proverbial to a blanket, renders birds feathers unflyable fishes gills unbreathable, etc.

As for it all being about the money, I agree.

Somehow in this day and age where it seems we have to pay for just about everything we do, we can still go out and enjoy being on the mostly pristine ocean and have a priceless experience with no money changing hands, allelujiah!! If the government gave the EPA the power to fine oil spillers let's say ooooh a million bucks for every tonne of oil spilt there might be a few less accidents.

Anyway that's just a few more of my fence sitting thoughts. Better get back to work.

Go the microbes.

J-P

J-P

I believe the oil on board is in the form of the fuel that the ship uses. It is relatively safe in the tanks.

It is not an oil tanker. It is empty,on its way to pick up coal.

yeh, it'll be interesting to see how things have changed there.. maybe we'll get some good banks over the coming weeks as the sand around the reef moves around.