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Lartay
Lartay
QLD
39 posts
QLD, 39 posts
5 Nov 2009 11:56am
I think if it weren't for IKO, there would be a lot more accidents and I can almost guarantee the councils would ban it from most beaches. IKO are listening to our ideas and updating their material accordingly. I read in one post earlier about unhooked launching. May I ask when did you do your IKO because I think if you keep your knowledge current you will find that IKO now include all forms of launching dependent on the gear used. They are up to date with the changes in gear and cover old and new kite setups, and they teach us about all setups.
I have done my IKO instructor level one, I was very happy with the material and professionalism of the staff.
What I would like to suggest to IKO if you are reading my post is that you take a look at the AQTF guidelines set by the Australian government and have a look at the currency and fairness rules.
I dont know so much if it is the IKO that are out to grab cash or those that abuse the certification.
In Vocational Education in Australia you are only issued a contract for around 2 years, each 2 years you need to renew the contract by proving the status of your employees, are they certified, is their knowledge current and is it fair? Start auditing and you will find a lot of cash grabbers abusing the IKO certification. But when I say fair, I mean a panel audit, a team of professionals. Start spending some of those dollars you are apparently 'grabbing' from instructors (I do believe they had a choice and what they chose was to learn the universal way) and regulate your certification.

And he who posted that it is rocket science obviously took rocket science at kindergarten, I want to thank YOU for all those people you put on the water who don't know the right of way, who don't watch out for turbulent areas, who land their kites in the trees, who do not check weather conditions before they leave, who can not read the clouds for potential danger and who launch in the power zone near other kiters, well done I am sure the world would be a better place if you were a rocket scientist.

In the end, we all want the same thing right? Safety and the freedom to kite at our beaches.

Passionate and proud to wear IKO.



rhinoman
rhinoman
QLD
362 posts
QLD, 362 posts
5 Nov 2009 12:34pm
where is rattleheads coment its a forum not a pick and chose what good and bad
rhinoman
rhinoman
QLD
362 posts
QLD, 362 posts
5 Nov 2009 12:37pm
dont dare say the word PADI .PADI
Rattlehead
Rattlehead
QLD
555 posts
QLD, 555 posts
5 Nov 2009 12:53pm
Spacemonkey! said...

andyy said...

I just did my course in Brisbane. And failed due to 2 reasons:

1.) I don't fly liquid force
2.) I don't kite by the pool





rhinoman
rhinoman
QLD
362 posts
QLD, 362 posts
5 Nov 2009 12:53pm
BROWN NOSER ... i did my course so i could put in my 2 cents worth of say
Lartay said...

I think if it weren't for IKO, there would be a lot more accidents and I can almost guarantee the councils would ban it from most beaches. IKO are listening to our ideas and updating their material accordingly. I read in one post earlier about unhooked launching. May I ask when did you do your IKO because I think if you keep your knowledge current you will find that IKO now include all forms of launching dependent on the gear used. They are up to date with the changes in gear and cover old and new kite setups, and they teach us about all setups.
I have done my IKO instructor level one, I was very happy with the material and professionalism of the staff.
What I would like to suggest to IKO if you are reading my post is that you take a look at the AQTF guidelines set by the Australian government and have a look at the currency and fairness rules.
I dont know so much if it is the IKO that are out to grab cash or those that abuse the certification.
In Vocational Education in Australia you are only issued a contract for around 2 years, each 2 years you need to renew the contract by proving the status of your employees, are they certified, is their knowledge current and is it fair? Start auditing and you will find a lot of cash grabbers abusing the IKO certification. But when I say fair, I mean a panel audit, a team of professionals. Start spending some of those dollars you are apparently 'grabbing' from instructors (I do believe they had a choice and what they chose was to learn the universal way) and regulate your certification.

And he who posted that it is rocket science obviously took rocket science at kindergarten, I want to thank YOU for all those people you put on the water who don't know the right of way, who don't watch out for turbulent areas, who land their kites in the trees, who do not check weather conditions before they leave, who can not read the clouds for potential danger and who launch in the power zone near other kiters, well done I am sure the world would be a better place if you were a rocket scientist.

In the end, we all want the same thing right? Safety and the freedom to kite at our beaches.

Passionate and proud to wear IKO.






Kitehard
Kitehard
WA
2782 posts
WA, 2782 posts
5 Nov 2009 10:56am
Hey Spacey,

Although maybe funny o sum, I think the above post where you have altered Andyy's words may be a little uncool and could be construed as tarnishing an otherwise good image.

Andy conducts himself on here (forum) with maturity and restraint and people that don't know it's a gag may think less of him for it.

Cheers,

KH
Spacemonkey!
Spacemonkey!
SA
2288 posts
SA, 2288 posts
5 Nov 2009 1:28pm
*Sigh* I thought it was funny anyway

P.S can't wait to read this next KBM
Kitehard
Kitehard
WA
2782 posts
WA, 2782 posts
5 Nov 2009 3:09pm
Hi AaronB,

There is a piece of paper called an ITC Summary Sheet which details personal information about each candidate as to the reasons of their pass or fail, however, it is filled with PERSONAL information and the reasons why any candidate passes or fails, It is of no ones business but that of IKO personnel which had an interest in the training, and certainly will not be made public on a forum.

As I understand it, there was insufficient wind to complete adequate training and evaluation of candidates. IKO Policy mandates that ALL candidates will be asked to complete a minimum of 8 hours of "Shadowing", which is teaching under the close eye of the nearest Level 2 Instructor in the event of insufficient winds or teaching time. Andy will complete his training in Caloundra where he lives.

Cheers,

KH



assmaster
assmaster
WA
224 posts
WA, 224 posts
5 Nov 2009 5:15pm
Would someone tell me what IKO actually does for you? And has it ever paid out? (it is insurance to right?)
As far as I can see (and have seen) it's a load of sh#t. Any old kook can get a teaching certificate from them if they go about it the right way, i've seen people around here with IKO accreditation that i haven't seen on the water for years, and i know for a fact they can hardly go upwind.

I think a well thought out and structured lesson plan and briefing specialised for your own teaching location, with insurance from a company based within this country would be much safer and a far better option. Not to mention students don't know what IKO is to start with.
Lartay
Lartay
QLD
39 posts
QLD, 39 posts
6 Nov 2009 1:32pm
rhinoman said...

BROWN NOSER ... i did my course so i could put in my 2 cents worth of say







Cant you do better than that? or are you still waiting to grow a vocabulary?
harry potter
harry potter
VIC
2777 posts
VIC, 2777 posts
6 Nov 2009 2:58pm
Here's an IDEA how about all you guys stop teaching people to kite surf and start telling everyone how hard it is ....and our local spots will remain uncrowded
rhinoman
rhinoman
QLD
362 posts
QLD, 362 posts
6 Nov 2009 2:31pm
no stupid
Lartay said...

rhinoman said...

BROWN NOSER ... i did my course so i could put in my 2 cents worth of say







Cant you do better than that? or are you still waiting to grow a vocabulary?


rhinoman
rhinoman
QLD
362 posts
QLD, 362 posts
6 Nov 2009 2:34pm
why conform to a vocabulary it just puts you in the same pen as the sheep ...bah bah bah and maybe do some more thinking because it did blow the day you were thinking could be a sign you talk out of your ass ,,,will this do or would you care for me to elaborate with a vocabulary
rhinoman said...

no stupid
Lartay said...

rhinoman said...

BROWN NOSER ... i did my course so i could put in my 2 cents worth of say







Cant you do better than that? or are you still waiting to grow a vocabulary?





rhinoman
rhinoman
QLD
362 posts
QLD, 362 posts
6 Nov 2009 2:36pm
thats you kite near the rocks to stop the flow of sheep following you
harry potter said...

Here's an IDEA how about all you guys stop teaching people to kite surf and start telling everyone how hard it is ....and our local spots will remain uncrowded


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