kiters rescued off mullaloo

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JEFFERSON
JEFFERSON
WA
72 posts
WA, 72 posts
12 Jan 2006 10:40am
You can't take risks and expect emergency services to always be able to help you out. Funds and resources are very limited and the only way to change that situation is to loby the state government and request that everyone pays more tax to fund a 'kite surfer in trouble rescue service.'

I imagine the actual guys involved knew they were taking a risk and as such probably are perfectly happy to accept responsibility for their own actions. Don't bag them out, they were having a crack and it back fired, sometimes risks pay off, sometimes you get a long swim. That is part of the sport, just like helping your mates in a time of need.
Kitehard
Kitehard
WA
2782 posts
WA, 2782 posts
12 Jan 2006 10:46am
Hey Guys,

We really dont want praise or to be paid for using our boat, as user said, as a kite school on the spot, I agree that it is part of our duty on the beach to help out and be of assistance where necessary. It's the reason we have a rescue boat in the first place. We dont need money, but we do drink beer, Crownies actually!

I really don't want to put down the rescue services too much, especially the volunteer guys as they aren't paid. I actually used to do work for the Royal Volunteer Coastal Patrol in Sydney and know the types of guys who work in this area. Good guys, just under funded and probably the last to be called.

Like I said, the Johnny's-on-the-spot are probably the Mullaloo Clubbies who do a great job and could have been there in minutes, had I thought to call them. I learned a few lessons from this episode so it was not a waste, just glad it all turned out OK.

Anyways, I dont want this thread to go on and on. We will be there with the boat and first aid whenever we can and will always help out wherever possible as it is part of our responsibility as a good school, as I'm sure Choicey and Youngy and Peli would all do the same.

Cheers and thanks all

Darren AKS

owieb
owieb
WA
158 posts
WA, 158 posts
12 Jan 2006 10:54am
Agree with Waveslave, people need to take responsibility for their actions and be prepared for worse case scenario.

In this instance other people were potentially putting their lives at risk by having to go out and rescue/check on these kiters.

However, it does appear that they may well have made it back to shore under their own steam without any assistance.

I'm pretty sure (correct me I'm wrong) that the DPI requirements are that you must have a flare, PFD (life jacket) if you go more than 400m off-shore?

Kitehard is indeed a great assest to have around at Pinnaroo, but I don't think he should be *expected* to have his boat there and provide a rescue service.

Most of the crew are vigilant and keep and eye out for each other and provide help and assistance where needed. I've helped a few people, retrieving boards, dragging someone in, and likewise people have helped me, for which I am very grateful.

I'm sure no one would just sit on the beach and watch someone else in trouble and not do anything about it; but kiters shouldn't think that they can just "do what they want" because there is someones "personal" boat at the beach.

Be responsible, be prepared and kite within your limits.



kiterpilot
kiterpilot
WA
249 posts
WA, 249 posts
12 Jan 2006 11:13am
quote:
Originally posted by owieb

Be responsible, be prepared and kite within your limits.



You summed it up right there
adamaki
adamaki
WA
5 posts
WA, 5 posts
12 Jan 2006 12:53pm
Yes, we used to surf out behind Little Rock / Seal Island at Pinnaroo, by towing boards behind 2 person waveski. We had a little prong anchor and 1 flare - which Marine and Harbours said was sufficient (they stopped us once on the paddle out). But I think life vest is vital if kiting out to sea.

quote:

I'm pretty sure (correct me I'm wrong) that the DPI requirements are that you must have a flare, PFD (life jacket) if you go more than 400m off-shore?


LouD
LouD
WA
642 posts
WA, 642 posts
12 Jan 2006 3:45pm
Waveslave

"Polesurfers" have been riding Little Island for the last 10 yrs and still continue to do so! 5-6 years ago there would be 8-10 windsurfers out there on any good summer PM. The only reason the numbers have diminished is that most of them are now kiteboarders and they are a bit more wary of not having a nice big board to paddle back.

I have to agree that if you go out there you are responsible for your own actions and should not rely on rescue services to bail you out. Condemning them for being late is absurd. I would have been eternally grateful for getting any help at all. A few people have had to swim back in the past. A well known Pinnaroo windsurfer/kiteboarder did the swim after the wind swang easterly and spent a lot of time swimming after dark- How scary is that?

kitecrazzzy
kitecrazzzy
WA
2184 posts
WA, 2184 posts
12 Jan 2006 3:52pm
they probably had to find guys who could get off work to come out and rescue you, its not as tho there were many boats out there in those conditions.
leski
leski
NSW
661 posts
NSW, 661 posts
12 Jan 2006 6:57pm
quote:
How scary is that?

really scary!!
I've sailed there quite a few time (always been with other mates too) and wouldn't want to have to do the swim that is for sure.

However you could always stay on the little sand bit at the back of the island if you don't mind the big mama seals checkin you out!

I always thought that this is what I would do if I was in real trouble. Better that than drifting like shark bait!

gruezi
gruezi
WA
3464 posts
WA, 3464 posts
12 Jan 2006 5:07pm
Right on Loud.

Best kiting in packs with exit plan for the adventurous stuff.

RayQ
RayQ
WA
638 posts
WA, 638 posts
12 Jan 2006 7:26pm
Ok, just realy interested in the details, I have spent countless days windsurfing behind little island , and been in the unfortunate position of paddling against a 20knot easterly with all my pole gear, ending up at oceanreef at 9 Oclock at night. Thing was though , you can usualy always get back to the Island and wait for help.
If you are capable of selfrescue and here is my point, dont understand how the guys ended up where I saw them from the beach , unless it turns S/E.
Jesse19
Jesse19
WA
101 posts
WA, 101 posts
12 Jan 2006 11:37pm
number 1 dont dis the whitfords sea rescue awesome organisation. ya neva know what they were tied up with before hand. (kitehard was in the right the whole time). secondly slave is right you have got to kite within your limitations.

kitehard is doing an awesome job at pinnaroo and i reckon deserves a little more credit than he receives like he said if he rescues your board think how much it has saved u ($100~$500) sheesh i think you can afford to pay him back! m8 he does a wikid job there look after the resources u have. keep it up kitehard
Kitehard
Kitehard
WA
2782 posts
WA, 2782 posts
12 Jan 2006 11:46pm
Hey Jesse,



Good winds,

pezza
pezza
WA
155 posts
WA, 155 posts
13 Jan 2006 10:27am
hey RAYQ have you ever thought that the current might have had something to do with where they ended up not the wind direction
RayQ
RayQ
WA
638 posts
WA, 638 posts
13 Jan 2006 6:07pm
Maybe you want to enlighten me mista PEZZA and no more sweettalking please,
pezza
pezza
WA
155 posts
WA, 155 posts
14 Jan 2006 10:54am
you said you couldnt understand how they got to where they did unless the wind turned SE, and I said that have you ever considered that the current might have dragged them that way. hope thats sweet enough for you.
pezza
pezza
WA
155 posts
WA, 155 posts
14 Jan 2006 10:58am
just because the wind chop is going a certain direction doesnt mean thats what way the current goes, especially when you are in deeper water or where the bottom drops off.
NorthSide
NorthSide
WA
238 posts
WA, 238 posts
16 Jan 2006 10:26am
My wife was flying the channel 7 chopper. She can't control how much the story is pumped up... that is up to the journo. They were asked to hang around by the rescue services (nearly $1000/ hour to run the chopper), I believe channel 9 turned up and took over so the channel 7 chopper went to another story.
My wife is very sensitive about getting in the way of rescue efforts and avoids doing so. She has been in the role of rescuer many times herself in other rotary wing jobs. They have often hung around when others have given up.
I kite myself, and her first reaction was of great concern for the safety of the kiters in the water.
As for the shark, well people call up the station to inform them of a sighting. Apparently it makes great news. I mean you guys watch it! We don’t even have a television
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