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nono19
nono19
7 posts
7 posts
7 Aug 2012 5:28am
Hi all, I heard there are some china kite manufacturers that produce and sell kites which are copy of brand kites.
Has anybody bought or tested these kites?
Does anybody know the factory´s name or contact?
thanks
NigeRobo
NigeRobo
QLD
27 posts
QLD, 27 posts
7 Aug 2012 8:07am
Hang on. I doubt the chinese would ever copy or reverse engineer anything.
Puetz
Puetz
NT
2186 posts
NT, 2186 posts
7 Aug 2012 11:10am
... try google!

I remember years ago a brand called Sand Groper Kites apparently coming out of WA but were re-badged China kites and they were terrible. I don't think you'll benifit too much looking into these, your better off looking at name brands run out models at good prices, at least you know they are ok instead of going for an unknown.

cheers,

Robbie
Skid
Skid
QLD
1499 posts
QLD, 1499 posts
7 Aug 2012 1:51pm
nono19 said...

Hi all, I heard there are some china kite manufacturers that produce and sell kites which are copy of brand kites.
Has anybody bought or tested these kites?
Does anybody know the factory´s name or contact?
thanks



Stabber kites perhaps???
kiteboy dave
kiteboy dave
QLD
6525 posts
QLD, 6525 posts
7 Aug 2012 7:15pm
Just buy a 2nd hand good name kite. More reliable, fly better, more resale and you won't look like a gumby.
kb53
kb53
55 posts
55 posts
7 Aug 2012 6:00pm
Try www.alibaba.com and do a search on kites, look in subcategory of surfing.
AndyEliotH
AndyEliotH
QLD
356 posts
QLD, 356 posts
7 Aug 2012 9:01pm
They look sketchy azzzz !!
theDoctor
theDoctor
NSW
5786 posts
NSW, 5786 posts
7 Aug 2012 9:12pm

their retail outlet is through some dude in indonesia

totally legit, but because of copyright infringements, you have to send the full purchase price up front, and deal with emails in secret squirrel coded pigeon english

to someone with a p.o box in bogor (have you ever been to bogor, i got stuck there for three days once, never belive an indonesian chemistry student when he tells you his homemade mdma is perfectly safe)

but just do it, you're kites will eventually turn up and you'll save like three hundred bucks!!!!

a whole three hundred bucks!!!

imagine all the spare parts and repairs you'll be able to afford from a legit dealer here in this great country that you live in with the three hundred bucks that you save...


I seriously hope that you get totally ripped off and your job gets outsourced to china and your house repossessed and sold to chinese
nono19
nono19
7 posts
7 posts
8 Aug 2012 12:41am
Doctor.....I regret to inform you that Indonesian´s sellers are simply a big fraud!
because there ain´t Kitesurf Manufacturers in Indonesia.
I thank you so much for your wishes, but I can´t agree with your opinion since the famous kite brands produce their kites in China (and not in USA, Australia or Europe with local manufacurers) in order to get more profit.
All around the world you can buy italian´s cheese,italia´s spaghetti and so on....have you ever check they were 100% from Italy?
have a nice day and hope you´ll keep your job and your house.
NigeRobo
NigeRobo
QLD
27 posts
QLD, 27 posts
8 Aug 2012 7:46am
nono19 said...

Doctor.....I regret to inform you that Indonesian´s sellers are simply a big fraud!
because there ain´t Kitesurf Manufacturers in Indonesia.
I thank you so much for your wishes, but I can´t agree with your opinion since the famous kite brands produce their kites in China (and not in USA, Australia or Europe with local manufacurers) in order to get more profit.
All around the world you can buy italian´s cheese,italia´s spaghetti and so on....have you ever check they were 100% from Italy?
have a nice day and hope you´ll keep your job and your house.


Are you Chinese?

Its all about quality control. Major kite brands have it even though they are manufactured in China. Chinese gear doesn't.
nono19
nono19
7 posts
7 posts
8 Aug 2012 6:07am
no i'm not.
mitch88
mitch88
NSW
271 posts
NSW, 271 posts
8 Aug 2012 8:13am
keep your money in aust, buy a decent 2nd hand kite which will fund someone else's purchase on a new brand name kite
trust me if you look hard enough you will found what you want for the price you want
Glitch
Glitch
QLD
292 posts
QLD, 292 posts
8 Aug 2012 9:20am
Have a look at www.made-in-china.com/ .You can get all sorts of crap, even though you might have a minimum order of several hundred and the quality might be siht.
sunseeker
sunseeker
QLD
1203 posts
QLD, 1203 posts
8 Aug 2012 11:58am
nono - theDoctor was being facetious which is a great Australian passtime. He's referring to a fraudulant Indonesian kite seller that featured on this forum a while ago.

What is your motivation for buying a kite from China? There are many posts on this forum about kites from China and how it's just not worth it. There's no after sales service, no backup, inferior design kites etc just to save a few hundred bucks.

nono19 said...

Doctor.....I regret to inform you that Indonesian´s sellers are simply a big fraud!
because there ain´t Kitesurf Manufacturers in Indonesia.
I thank you so much for your wishes, but I can´t agree with your opinion since the famous kite brands produce their kites in China (and not in USA, Australia or Europe with local manufacurers) in order to get more profit.
All around the world you can buy italian´s cheese,italia´s spaghetti and so on....have you ever check they were 100% from Italy?
have a nice day and hope you´ll keep your job and your house.


wishy
wishy
WA
1501 posts
WA, 1501 posts
8 Aug 2012 11:58am
The chinese can make a brilliant copy of anything after a few failed efforts usually.

In the pushbike world you can get an unreal bike for $1,500 that compares to a 6 grand brandname bike.

I'm sure there are chinese kites out there, if someone finds a good one give me a try and let's do a bulk order!
speller
speller
QLD
131 posts
QLD, 131 posts
8 Aug 2012 3:04pm
sunseeker said...

He's referring to a fraudulant Indonesian kite seller that featured on this forum a while ago.

nono19 said...

Doctor.....I regret to inform you that Indonesian´s sellers are simply a big fraud!
because there ain´t Kitesurf Manufacturers in Indonesia.
I thank you so much for your wishes, but I can´t agree with your opinion since the famous kite brands produce their kites in China (and not in USA, Australia or Europe with local manufacurers) in order to get more profit.
All around the world you can buy italian´s cheese,italia´s spaghetti and so on....have you ever check they were 100% from Italy?
have a nice day and hope you´ll keep your job and your house.





Never fear, I have it on reliable authority that the Indo bloke has been banned from Seabreeze
suniboy21
suniboy21
VIC
1090 posts
VIC, 1090 posts
8 Aug 2012 5:24pm
www.alibaba.com/product-detail/kitesurfing_584393936.html

Ive just placed an order of 100000
wishy
wishy
WA
1501 posts
WA, 1501 posts
8 Aug 2012 4:22pm
suniboy21 said...

www.alibaba.com/product-detail/kitesurfing_584393936.html

Ive just placed an order of 100000


Are you Ben Wilson?
kiteboy dave
kiteboy dave
QLD
6525 posts
QLD, 6525 posts
8 Aug 2012 6:39pm
^^ lol

material is repstop cloth, carbon bar and deneema line.


I'd love a kite made of repstop cloth, it's supposed t be 60% as good as ripstop. But the word is that Deneema is only 30% as good as dyneema.
GRunner
GRunner
QLD
238 posts
QLD, 238 posts
8 Aug 2012 8:22pm
Didn't China invent the kite about 3000 years ago
suniboy21
suniboy21
VIC
1090 posts
VIC, 1090 posts
9 Aug 2012 6:33am
thought it was india.... havent you seen the movie "kite runner"
kiteboy dave
kiteboy dave
QLD
6525 posts
QLD, 6525 posts
9 Aug 2012 7:53am
^^ That was Afghanistan champ.
TKC1
TKC1
SA
52 posts
SA, 52 posts
9 Aug 2012 8:20pm
nono19 said...


Does anybody know the factory´s name or contact?


I know Faith kites come straight out of the same factory as North in Sri Lanka, I'm not sure if North have secured the production a bit more now, but a few years ago the Faith kites were IDENTICAL to the North kites and about a third of the price..

I think Dilsiri is the rep and he owns a kite school in Kappaladi, just south of Kalpytia..

I think the user KSSALTONA on Seabreeze is associated with Dilsiri and his school and might be able to help out.


Jess


Paul1
Paul1
QLD
1011 posts
QLD, 1011 posts
9 Aug 2012 9:03pm
A third of the price of the Norths and still the same problems, still twice as much as they are worth then......
Underoath
Underoath
QLD
2434 posts
QLD, 2434 posts
9 Aug 2012 11:16pm
I purchased a 2011 kite today - 9m Slingshot Fuel for 400 in great condition including bar and lines. Bloke going back home to Europe needed to move some gear.

So if your thinking of getting a no name kite based on price alone, think again. There are good deals out there.

Luther
Luther
84 posts
84 posts
9 Aug 2012 10:22pm
quote from the doctor :
I seriously hope that you get totally ripped off and your job gets outsourced to china and your house repossessed and sold to chinese

you sure are a mean person lots of everyday products manufactured in China merely for the sake of cost, i assume you indeed would have some !!!
eppo
eppo
WA
9793 posts
WA, 9793 posts
9 Aug 2012 10:27pm
Agree with the second hand virtue. Went the same path twice for the season coming. But....be aware the ability for Chinese manufacturing to adapt and solve quickly is like nothing we've seen before in history. My brother in law imports high quality top end shoes ( basically shoes that could get you a decent kite hence I will never own a pair) told me stories of his trips to china and has seen quantum improvements within a few years. He said it scared the living sh1t out of him.
GRunner
GRunner
QLD
238 posts
QLD, 238 posts
10 Aug 2012 9:41pm
Monkey see monkey do..... If you've been makin kites for 3000 years I'm sure a couple of years from now 'no name' brands will be as good as (if there not already)
eppo
eppo
WA
9793 posts
WA, 9793 posts
10 Aug 2012 9:07pm
Unfortunately I think, actually I know you are right. I'm turning Chinese Im turning Chinese I think so. The day the instructions for your latest electronic device comes only in Chinese is the day we know we are farqed.
theDoctor
theDoctor
NSW
5786 posts
NSW, 5786 posts
10 Aug 2012 11:36pm


if you leave it that long.... you are most definitely farqued

when you have a gov program outsourced to the private sector (whose only concern is making money off their charters) turning out useless and mollycoddled apprentices who at twenty odd are not even close to adults and far beyond useless as tradesmen and in the fastest moving economy in the country, a whole town stops to allow the transport of infrastructure for the multinationals to be transported from ship to site... infrastructure that should be built in this country but is built in china and fabricators become assemblers...

we are already well beyond farqued
eppo
eppo
WA
9793 posts
WA, 9793 posts
10 Aug 2012 10:05pm
Agreed.
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