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Charl dv
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22 Jul 2008 9:32pm
soo im studying discourse in school, i have to choose a type of discourse and find articles relating to this, hit up a couple of mags and got a few articles on travelling etc that has kiting discourses.. was thinking about using a forum thread for another form of article, anyone got any suggestions of an article that general public will understand but where having knowledge of kiting will help you appreciate the article more?

oh and does anyone have a link to the news article on the bondi accident? maybe the article about what happened to the man who drowned recently? and the ones of the hero up in gero?
Unchained
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22 Jul 2008 9:37pm
seriously, just do gender discourse, you'll get a better mark :)
Charl dv
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22 Jul 2008 9:42pm
gender discourse sucks my fat 1. i hate the whole idea of discourse so if i can confuse my teacher enough she might just give me marks
Jimmyz
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23 Jul 2008 1:39am
The difference between straps and bindings, wow that was intriguing
Charl dv
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22 Jul 2008 11:45pm
genious i never thaught of that one! il try to force it in somewhere, surely a english teacher / tee examiner would know the difference between the two?
GreenPat
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23 Jul 2008 2:02am
Maybe the English teacher I used to kite with in Townsville would.
Danger Mouse
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23 Jul 2008 10:01am
Go the old stand by.... Bows Vs Cs

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getfunky
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23 Jul 2008 11:29am
Bite the bullet and do gender discourse as yourrather muscular passive aggressive female lecturer will be sure to A+ you mate..
kiter789
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23 Jul 2008 6:33pm
Really? You really have to write a paper about "discourse?"

Back when I was at school we had rocks.
kiter zac
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23 Jul 2008 7:03pm
yeah its crap. i gotta write about discourses too
Keahi
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23 Jul 2008 7:09pm
^^^ me too
Charl dv
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23 Jul 2008 5:49pm
when are all yours due? i just formulated a sick plan! we all do same topic, do a section each.. then add it together and bam there is one sweet paper on discourse.
GreenPat
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23 Jul 2008 7:59pm
Does that class as cheating?
manicskier
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23 Jul 2008 8:51pm
Different schools, it would work well, just dont let them see this thread.

Also WTF is a discourse?
Charl dv
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23 Jul 2008 6:59pm
people who play fair in life always loose. school teaches us this.

im not too sure but i think its the language a community uses to communicate their ideas and beliefs ra ra ra..
basically wat i got off the net is that when you read an article, it is the knowledge the person reading has that helps them make a better understanding of the article.. ie in football injuries, when we read this there is a medical and a football discourse, if the reader has knowledge on football they will understand how this injury will affect the player and how long he will be out for etc. if the reader has medical knowledge the type of injury this person has and the intencity in the injury etc will make more sence to them and inturn make them understand the article at a higher level.
kiter zac
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23 Jul 2008 9:04pm
i just though it was like a representation or a theme. like what kitesurfers where and act like in australia proabaly is a different discourse to what they act like in germany
manicskier
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23 Jul 2008 9:10pm
Cool... odd though, you got this from the net... what do the teachers do, tell you to google stuff. The world of education must have changed so much int he last few years (lets say 10), did you get something from the teacher on this?

So another question for you (to help you learn how to learn, is that what the teachers say) is it the language we use (is there a context there, online, papers, magazine or books) or the knowledge that the reader has. Maybe a discourse about the changing discourse of our society.

Cheers

(Also I hope you us a spell checker and grammar, i have noticed that you have lots of spelling errors, or correct spelling but wrong word - not trying to stir, just check your submission the teacher)

Ben De Jonge
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23 Jul 2008 7:11pm
I just wish school would teach you this:

People who play fair in life do not always 'loose'.
They may, however, 'lose'.

Lose means to have Lost.
Loose means undone, not tight.

The need to cover the basics before they take off on Discourse. Whatever that means.
manicskier
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23 Jul 2008 9:14pm
I think you will find they are nutters everywhere

kiter zac said...

i just though it was like a representation or a theme. like what kitesurfers where and act like in australia probaly is a different discourse to what they act like in germany



where - where is that place
were - the kitesurfers were boosting massive air
wear - i wear the coolest gear out man, dude, sick, (i htink this is what you were after)

Charl dv
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23 Jul 2008 7:36pm
ok when i write english essays n do my assaignments i do spell chek n make sure i use proper words at the right time, but to be honest its not worth the effort on a forum.


can someone PLEASE give me a clear cut definition of what discourse is because this assaignment is confusing the hell out of me!

the assaignment is:

evaluate through investigation the discourse of a sport, the family, buisness, politics, the law, medicine, a hobby, religion or the media. present your findings in your investigation notebook in atleast three different written forms. The discourse for investigation must be negotiated with your teacher and a suitable and manageable topic chosen. Present your findings in the form of an analytical essay.
kiter zac
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23 Jul 2008 9:37pm
yeah i know. im just lazy on the key board. i didnt even use capital letters for the names of countries
Charl dv
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23 Jul 2008 7:47pm
as for what they teach u at school..
my english teacher teaches me nothing, they assume shes good because shes a ex ter examiner but shes useless... after our teacher interviews when mum askd bout em.. dad says: well she talked alot..... but said nothing.

i cracked up laughin and said that is exactly why i wanted to be moved from her class! she literally speaks an entire hour about pointless stuff that doesnt matter and drifts off topic for ages
manicskier
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23 Jul 2008 10:11pm
yeah cool, not trying to be a spelling nazi (im pretty bad myself), it just when you use the a word with the correct spelling out of contect like 'loose' i and the other dude with his 'where' meaning 'wear', that wont get picked up by a spell checker.

Learn from that teacher, the skill of being able to talk without saying anything is good, its called faking it till you make it

Still think you should get the others together to help research and bounce ideas off each other (if your from different schools) yup
GreenPat
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23 Jul 2008 10:16pm
Charl dv said...

to be honest its not worth the effort on a forum.


There's a subject for discourse, whether or not it's worth the effort of using correct spelling and punctuation on internet forums.



You will have to discourse without me though, I officially do not have an opinion on the matter any more.

p.s. When I wonder the exact definition of a word I like to type "define:<the word in question>" into google. For discourse
www.google.com.au/search?q=define%3Adiscourse&gws_rd=ssl it returned:

Definitions of discourse on the Web:

* extended verbal expression in speech or writing
* to consider or examine in speech or writing; "The author talks about the different aspects of this question"; "The class discussed Dante's `Inferno'"
* sermon: an address of a religious nature (usually delivered during a church service)
* converse: carry on a conversation
* discussion: an extended communication (often interactive) dealing with some particular topic; "the book contains an excellent discussion of modal logic"; "his treatment of the race question is badly biased"
* hold forth: talk at length and formally about a topic; "The speaker dissertated about the social politics in 18th century England"
wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

* Discourse is communication that goes back and forth (from the Latin, discursus, "running to and from"), such as debate or argument. The term is used in semantics and discourse analysis. ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discourse

* Verbal exchange, conversation; Verbal expression, either in speech or writing; A formal lengthy exposition of some subject, either spoken or written; An institutionalized way of thinking, a social boundary defining what can be said about a specific topic (after Michel Foucault); To engage ...
en.wiktionary.org/wiki/discourse

* A conversation; the act or result of making a formal written or spoken presentation on a subject; in linguistics, any form of oral or written communication more extensive than a sentence.
csmp.ucop.edu/crlp/resources/glossary.html

* Formal, extended expression of thought on a subject, either spoken or written.
h1.ripway.com/peter21ma/GlossaryofLiteraryTerms-MADOE.doc

* Broadly, communication; a communicative act, or series of acts.
www.questiaschool.com/read/102868148

* Michel Foucault saw a discourse as a system of ideas or knowledge , inscribed in a specific vocabulary (eg psychoanalysis, anthropology, cultural/literary studies):- large groups of statements. ...
royal-holloway.org.uk/ltsn/english/events/past/staffs/Holland_Arrowsmith/Critical%20Concepts%20edit.htm

* Verbal exchanges between speakers on a shared topic.
www.apraxia-kids.org/site/c.chKMI0PIIsE/b.695215/k.D979/Glossary.htm

* a term described by Dr. Ortwin Renn in the theory of communicative action, to denote a special form of dialogue in which all affected parties have ...
www.inspection.gc.ca/english/corpaffr/publications/riscomm/riscomm_appe.shtml

* A relatively lengthy speech or writing on a particular theme, such as one on the nature of Jesus through the words of John the Baptist (John 3:31 ...
www.philosophy-religion.org/bible/glossary_new-interpreters-bible.htm

* Connected communication of thought sequences; continuous expression or exchange of ideas.
www.oafccd.com/factshee/fact59.htm

* written or spoken language, especially when it is studied in order to understand how people use language
www.macmillandictionaries.com/glossaries/dictionary.htm

* extended speech, the code of language used to express personal thought.
www.artrelish.com/artspeak/

* The linking of sentences such that they constitute a narrative
www.hbcse.tifr.res.in/Data/Objects/j/jram/jrmcont/notespart1/node102.html

* The basic unit that Foucault analyzes in all his works. Foucault defines the discourse as a system in which certain knowledge is possible; discourses determine what is true or false in a particular field. ...
aristotelianbirdseyeview.wordpress.com/2007/05/05/10-foucault-terms-related-to-the-rape-prevention-discourse-and-their-application-to-this-discourse/

* A spoken or written treatment of a subject at length.
www.innvista.com/culture/literature/classic/glossary.htm

* A discourse can be taken to be a sequence of sentences. This is the simple definition adopted in most of this course. Various interesting phenomena arise when one combines sentences in a discourse, such as anaphora, presupposition, or rhetorical structure.
www.coli.uni-saarland.de/projects/milca/courses/comsem/xhtml/d0e1-gloss.xhtml

* [noun] Discourse is a contiguous stretch of language comprising more than one sentence (text) or utterance (speech).
portal.bibliotekivest.no/terminology.htm

* The literary text as generally viewed by Structuralists, Post-Structuralists, and New Historicists, in contrast to the autotelic text defined by formalism. ...
english.ucumberlands.edu/litcritweb/glossary.htm

* Traditionally, exposition, argument, description, and narration. See entries under each. These four kinds of traditional discourse are rarely found in a pure form. Argument and exposition may be interfused in the most complex fashion. ...
wps.ablongman.com/long_shrodes_cr_10/41/10662/2729719.cw/index.html

* spoken or written language, including literary works; the four traditionally classified modes of ____________ are description, exposition, narration, and persuasion.
kmhs.typepad.com/parrott_ap_english_langua/files/rhetorical_terms.doc

* is the process of conversing, interacting, and talking.
www.usm.maine.edu/com/concept2.htm

* "[A]sa free#8209;standing noun (>discourse as such) the term denotes language in actual use within its social and ideological contexts and in institutionalized representations of the world called discursive practices." (CB) Literary works may contain or make use of any number of discourses. ...
classes.berklee.edu/llanday/resources/terms.htm
manicskier
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23 Jul 2008 10:26pm
Far more interesting then random drivel from rabid kiters, then you could look at a bunch of different forums.... Like excel forum i found the other day ''''shiver... shiver'''' oooh so nerdy, but handy nerds

GreenPat said...

Charl dv said...

to be honest its not worth the effort on a forum.


There's a subject for discourse, whether or not it's worth the effort of using correct spelling and punctuation on internet forums.



You will have to discourse without me though, I officially do not have an opinion on the matter any more.
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Capt.Gumby
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23 Jul 2008 10:27pm
manicskier said...

Also WTF is a discourse?


As for what the subject/content matter of what schools teach is often irrelevant, that is, it is not so much about the actual subject matter but rather utilizing that particular subject matter to teach and reinforce skills that you will continually use throughout life. For example, to be able to read, comprehend, analyse, problem solve, hypothsize, synthesize etc. However, a good curriculum will always try to ensure that subject matter and assessment items a real world. That is, you can make a connection to the subject matter and has some relevance to you and your life. You may not agree, but investigating discourses are about as real life as any other subject you could think of.

As for a discourse (context of your studies), it is my understanding that it is the way an individual carries themselves within various social groups. For example, take yourself, and consider the way you behave/interact when in the company of your parents compared to that your kiting mates. The type of mannerisms, behaviours, social expectations, values, beliefs, clothing, type of language used, attitudes etc (I could go on for ever.......) they all differ even though you are the same person. You are basically changing the way you interact and communicate with others based on the social group you are within at that time. eg. You would not (I hope!!) swear, drink, smoke, discuss you latest conquest etc etc etc in front of your parents but with your kiting mates you would, actually, they expect it Imagine if you behave in front of your mates like you would normally interact with you grandmother, you could imagine the consequences


Just my opinion on the matter. In fact, I cannot believe I actually replied to this thread.

Good luck with your paper Charl dv, you might even learn something


general_dude
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23 Jul 2008 9:22pm
Charl dv said...

ok when i write english essays n do my assaignments i do spell chek n make sure i use proper words at the right time, but to be honest its not worth the effort on a forum.


can someone PLEASE give me a clear cut definition of what discourse is because this assaignment is confusing the hell out of me!

the assaignment is:

evaluate through investigation the discourse of a sport, the family, buisness, politics, the law, medicine, a hobby, religion or the media. present your findings in your investigation notebook in atleast three different written forms. The discourse for investigation must be negotiated with your teacher and a suitable and manageable topic chosen. Present your findings in the form of an analytical essay.


Surely your english teacher wrote "at least", not "atleast"!

Also you indicate that your teacher can talk for hours without saying anything. In my opinion this is one of the greatest talents a person can have. I've spent most of my working life working for managers & bureaucrats who talk for hours and say nothing. It seems this talent (combined with an ability to do nothing & avoid making decisions) is one of the most sought after abilities in any large busines or corporation. Unless your planning on being a professional kitesurfer you should not denigrate this wonderful source of inspiration, but rather try your hardest to emulate her magnificent talent. Then you will be on your way straight to the corner office with the nice view over the river where you can watch those other b@#$%s out there sailing on a Wednesday afternoon.
[Grumpy old man - not yet but getting there!]
Charl dv
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23 Jul 2008 10:25pm
if you knew me you would know that i can talk alot aswell and i can talk about nothing, i am pro at doing nothing and i can avoid making decisions easily... can i just skip school and uni and jump straight into this office?
kitecrazzzy
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23 Jul 2008 11:23pm
charl can be a mean sexist... it's probably best if he skips the topic

jk, but seriously . . . do not try do anything other than what they tell you to write. they hate it and mark you down
wind driven
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24 Jul 2008 8:53pm
You could discuss the merits of discourse over the merits of datcourse...
wind driven
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24 Jul 2008 8:55pm
Thats if you decide that discourse it is not a flat saucer-like lenticular disc that is thrown in track and field events
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