which twin tip for waves????

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spot1
spot1
WA
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9 Sep 2007 8:28pm
got plenty of surfboards, so something lite as with flex
pimp all u like
thanks
Kitehard
Kitehard
WA
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9 Sep 2007 8:44pm
Hey Spot1,

Haven't heard too many complaints about the Airush Hammer as a wave twinny. Not a great freestyling board, but then again, neither would be a surfboard ;-)

Rails and rocker are most important for a surf twinny, as well as bigger than standard fins and a nice tuck to tail in plan shape.

Good luck,

meerkat
meerkat
WA
644 posts
WA, 644 posts
9 Sep 2007 8:57pm
get a old style leaner board that has a rocker, i forget which brands are better, but some of the 140-155cm learner boards with a bit of extra volume are ace.
vishy
vishy
WA
451 posts
WA, 451 posts
9 Sep 2007 9:09pm
Yeh definetlty give the hammer a go eh, wiked board in the surf, and chuks a sik spray,
Thanks
Matt
poor relative
poor relative
WA
9106 posts
WA, 9106 posts
9 Sep 2007 9:40pm
Airush hammer perfect
lancekenny
lancekenny
SA
402 posts
SA, 402 posts
10 Sep 2007 12:14am
I had the Hammer and now have the RRD Toxic wave, both are awesome boards, the toxic wave handles the waves a little better but the hammer was just awesome across the the range of things you wanted to throw at it... including flat water...

The Toxic is a twin tip also - but very wave oriented, the hammer suits more along the lines of your question.
IanR
IanR
NSW
1360 posts
NSW, 1360 posts
10 Sep 2007 12:56am
I come from a Kneeboard / bodyboard back ground and rode a directional surf board with a kite in the early days (2000) and hated it. I don't like going slow on a thruster paddle board and I can't jibe those things

I now ride a 129 protoy which I love in the surf with heaps of power. I do struggle with the transition from kite to wave power and back again. I also own an 05 Exile that is good in small surf and handles the power transition better but the rocker is to flat for steep waves. I tried briefly a 06 hammer that I found very power hungry with little glide. I'm going to look at the exile protoy small this year as my wave board or a choptop as most of our surf is onshore mush and I like to ride fast. I would like to see a Quad fin choptop with fins parallel to the stringer

I'm also working on switch toe side to take on the NE at Wanda
echostorm
echostorm
QLD
1245 posts
QLD, 1245 posts
10 Sep 2007 8:36am
I ride a liquid force element which is purely for flat water and wakestyle, however I basically only do wave riding and its all I use in the surf . Twintips are underrated in regards to wave riding, I have stood in 8ft barrels with that board. I do however recommend something with flex to absorb the impact of the chop.
vert
vert
WA
267 posts
WA, 267 posts
10 Sep 2007 9:48am
quote:
Originally posted by echostorm

I have stood in 8ft barrels with that board.



now thats a big claim, would like to see a shot of that, or are we pulling it little bit
Blaster
Blaster
WA
501 posts
WA, 501 posts
10 Sep 2007 9:53am
It's not a true TT but I do like my Underground Firebird(mutant)141x40 in the waves, Has great rocker and fin arrangement. It's not bad at going up wind to get back behind the waves. Can also edge it and boost like a TT, just not great for trickery.
campers
campers
WA
66 posts
WA, 66 posts
10 Sep 2007 9:59am
Another vote for the hammer here. Its an awesome twintip in rough and wavey conditions but still not too big or different shaped that you can't do a bit of freestyley stuff.
RayQ
RayQ
WA
638 posts
WA, 638 posts
10 Sep 2007 10:24am
OK you want pimp, Im your man
Coronation Super Flex Fakie, sorry, thats what its called
Poplar laminated wood, live / active core, epoxy glass top and bottom
single concave, 3 D tail, which means fins get extra flex pattern
135cm /41.5cm rocker is 3.2 cm.
as the name sugests its super flexy
Will put on a demo as soon as we get some good wind
spot1
spot1
WA
1588 posts
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10 Sep 2007 10:40am
ok the hammer, is it ok for a rider that is a lite 66kg???????
echostorm
echostorm
QLD
1245 posts
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10 Sep 2007 3:34pm
quote:
Originally posted by vert

quote:
Originally posted by echostorm

I have stood in 8ft barrels with that board.



now thats a big claim, would like to see a shot of that, or are we pulling it little bit



No footage but lots of fellow witnesses, two weeks ago when we got a mini cyclone system... refer to these posts,
www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=30250
www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=30163
waveslave
waveslave
WA
4263 posts
WA, 4263 posts
10 Sep 2007 1:50pm
quote:
Originally posted by echostorm
I have stood in 8ft barrels with that board. I do however recommend something with flex to absorb the impact



LOL.
VB MAN
VB MAN
1156 posts
1156 posts
10 Sep 2007 3:12pm
The Hammer comes in 2 sizes 138 & 144. The 138x38.5 would suit your weight well as the 144x42 would be too much board for you,IMO.
BoDiddly
BoDiddly
VIC
622 posts
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10 Sep 2007 5:23pm
So.. anyone been using a 'mutant' for waves? and are they any good?
tobes
tobes
NSW
1000 posts
NSW, 1000 posts
10 Sep 2007 5:37pm
I mostly use an Underground Firebird for messing around in waves, love it. Agree with Blaster. You really know about the 4" fins.
I'd like to try the Hammer though, seems pretty similar to the old Underground Wave Tray.
lancekenny
lancekenny
SA
402 posts
SA, 402 posts
10 Sep 2007 5:22pm
My Toxic Wave is a mutant I guess (not 100% sure there) and its a great fun board in the surf, has enough float when its moving to push through the fat sections or when the kite is not powered up, turns real nice on the waves and at low speed climbs all over and handles foam real well. Im happy with it!
RayQ
RayQ
WA
638 posts
WA, 638 posts
10 Sep 2007 6:04pm
66 Kgs Hmm...
You might want to consider something around 36cm -38 cm wide max.....
Coronation Super flex Ripper,
Laminated wood core again, epoxy glass, single concave,
taperd abs rails
132cm X 38cm
insomniac_alcoholic
insomniac_alcoholic
WA
190 posts
WA, 190 posts
10 Sep 2007 6:57pm
Theres a few other names but the one that seems to echo through this thread is Hammer and I have to agree.

Never surfed, not that flash a kiter but I've found my Hammer very forgiving in the waves, great in the chop and good as an all-round board too.

The point that its power hungry might be right but we've always got plenty of wind here so it doesn't worry me.

Big ups for the Hammer.
Blaster
Blaster
WA
501 posts
WA, 501 posts
10 Sep 2007 7:27pm
I see a liquid force mission around the traps ripping it regularly
coreyb
coreyb
WA
463 posts
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10 Sep 2007 9:05pm
My vote is another for the hammer. I rode the 144 most of last summer and now on the 138. There isnt much in it, but the bigger one allows you to ride slightly less powered, but then when it is real windy can be a tad hard to hold a solid carve.

I ride a hammer over a surfboard as you can do turns that feel like surf turns, plus mix it up with skate airs and then still do boosts on the way out. Ive ridden it in the mega stormies weve had feel completely comfortable in double overhead waves. You wont find a board that goes from rail to rail any better.

If youve got cash to spare wait for the 08 ones to come out. They have new flex tips and that really helps with the powered turns and for hard landings.

The only thing is I find with the big fins in the front it can catch half way through a bottom turn and can be sticky when you switch it around. Put 40s in the front. Cures it and will still have plenty of bite for riding switch. Forties all round tends to let the back start to slide on sucky waves at the end of a bottom turn.

But dont take my many words for it. Borrow some for a test ride and make up your own mind.
waveslave
waveslave
WA
4263 posts
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10 Sep 2007 9:26pm
Hard sharp rails can be catchy in waves.
If your twinny has rails that look like the square edge of a steam-iron...
it's probably good for freestyle trickery,
and not so good for wavekiting.
t o b y
t o b y
WA
530 posts
WA, 530 posts
10 Sep 2007 10:30pm
on a second note hammer is sick for waves handles bigger stuff too
LouD
LouD
WA
642 posts
WA, 642 posts
10 Sep 2007 10:50pm
Hammer, hammer , hammer. I tried one and thought my feet were stuck in concrete. Get something with less rocker and more flex. Toxic wave a little better, but still to much rocker. Both are OK on a wave if you dont weigh much but if if you are over 85kg you struggle to get upwind unless over 25k.
LouD
LouD
WA
642 posts
WA, 642 posts
10 Sep 2007 10:57pm
Addendum. The newer TTs with 3D ends make a lot of sense for wave riding as they create their own rocker while driving the board up and down the wave , but flatten out again when riding normally to go upwind.
echostorm
echostorm
QLD
1245 posts
QLD, 1245 posts
11 Sep 2007 8:28am
Whats with all the...
echostorm
echostorm
QLD
1245 posts
QLD, 1245 posts
11 Sep 2007 8:30am
Double posts

Just use the edit button
getfunky
getfunky
WA
4485 posts
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12 Sep 2007 4:04pm
I just bought a LF Proof 151 for just this purpose a couple of weeks ago. this is a learners board but very very similar in shape/design but upsized from my only other board (LF Drop 136)

I really love my Drop 136 (spesh when the wind is crankin) it is soooo good in swell/chop (nice rounded tapered rails), but I wanted a low wind option that would also glide/plane a bit more after screamin down the face (ok cruizing down the waste-shoulder high face) of waves without dieing out before I get on the juice with the kite again.

Bummer is I havn't had a chance to get out yet (far far too much work at the mo). The plan is for this weekend so I'll keep you posted.

Neither of these LF boards are cutting edge technology. Bothe are sweet shapes and just about bullet proof though (cheap compared to other brands also). My Drop has taken a mighty hammering and is such a sweet ride with profile straps.

Nope I am not company affiliated - just keen on good/cheap/strong no marketing hype boards.
echostorm
echostorm
QLD
1245 posts
QLD, 1245 posts
12 Sep 2007 7:20pm
quote:
Originally posted by getfunky

I just bought a LF Proof 151 for just this purpose a couple of weeks ago. this is a learners board but very very similar in shape/design but upsized from my only other board (LF Drop 136)

I really love my Drop 136 (spesh when the wind is crankin) it is soooo good in swell/chop (nice rounded tapered rails), but I wanted a low wind option that would also glide/plane a bit more after screamin down the face (ok cruizing down the waste-shoulder high face) of waves without dieing out before I get on the juice with the kite again.

Bummer is I havn't had a chance to get out yet (far far too much work at the mo). The plan is for this weekend so I'll keep you posted.

Neither of these LF boards are cutting edge technology. Bothe are sweet shapes and just about bullet proof though (cheap compared to other brands also). My Drop has taken a mighty hammering and is such a sweet ride with profile straps.

Nope I am not company affiliated - just keen on good/cheap/strong no marketing hype boards.



I agree... LF make solid boards. They have been making boards longer then most of the other manufactures as they were the board of choice during the wakeboard revolution.
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