can't get the kite in the power zone

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Kit3kat
Kit3kat
QLD
202 posts
QLD, 202 posts
2 Jun 2015 7:14am
right. Time for a constructive answer... Trainer kites* and beach practice won't help you with this as once you are on the board moving the kite becomes dynamic. The reason why kiting works is because once you dive the kite and "move" the kite will never be able to leave the powerzone to the edge as your board keeps "catching" up with the edge of the window. At least once you have speed.

Your problem is that you don't generate enough power when you start so your board is too slow and the kite overtakes you and moves to the edge. There is two things you can do.

a) Make yourself go faster
( b) buy yourself a bit more time to gather speed which leads to a) )
c) make the kite go slower to the edge.



So a) is basically to give the kite a much sharper dive into the powerzone. Some people literally dive the kite from 12 to 6 o clock in light wind. As a result you get more power, more speed and the kite also doesnt move as much to the edge as it dives more down to the horizon. Probably only a good idea if you are confident as you can easily do a superman. If you try this makes sure to really kick your front leg up to the sky as you get lifted out of the water and then put like all your weight on your back leg. (so the nose of the board doesnt get buried in the water).

To do b) you sort of move the kite to 10 o clock and then dive it sort of at medium speed up to 11/12 and then back down to 2 o clock or just go directly through the powerzone. As the kite takes a bit longer now to move from left to the right you have a bit more time to gather speed. Can also lead you to doing a superman.....

The first some people also call 2 stroke start. If you start to your right you move the kite to like 10 o clock. Move it up to 1130. This will lift you out of the water and turn you in the wrong direction a bit ( perfect for going downwind , especially if your board always points too much upwind) and then your second powerstroke from 1130 to ~2 or 3 will get you going.


c) So once you are up on the board you need to IMMEDIATLEY steer the kite sharp up and then sort of sharp down again. By going up and down (a sine shape with high amplitude) the kite essentially can't really move to the edge and you can gather speed. Do this maybe 3 times (Normal downstroke, up on the board, sharp up, sharp down, sharp up and then hold at 2 o clock) you should have enough speed. Should the kite move to the edge of the zone just sine it up and down. Should your board go too fast now and the lines go slack or the kite goes to 12 as you now overtake the kite either steer it towards 3 o clock (bad idea as this will make you even faster) or edge the board and go upwind for a few seconds and push the bar out.


*unless you go to i.e. a football field and practice on a skateboard if theres plenty of wind.
stan1169
stan1169
32 posts
32 posts
2 Jun 2015 11:05am
Thank you, some great advice that I will definately try once the conditions are right.

KIT33R
KIT33R
NSW
1716 posts
NSW, 1716 posts
3 Jun 2015 9:20am
Once you're more experienced and have better kite control here are two good ways to get off to a fast start in light winds.

1. When diving the kite from 1:00 o'clock (you're heading to your left) through 11:00, straight down to 10:00 then turn it under to 5:00 and quickly back to 9:00. The kite will want to urgently find the edge of the window and propel you forward. Think of the kite movement as a true S shape.

2. This one I like. Again heading left. Simply, from 11:00 o'clock send the kite clockwise (yes, in the opposite direction) and turn it under instead of over for a fast getaway.
daveisthekotz
daveisthekotz
NSW
111 posts
NSW, 111 posts
3 Jun 2015 3:35pm
stan1169 said..
Thank you, some great advice that I will definately try once the conditions are right.



Stan, Some kites will typically sit deeper in the wind window as well so do not judge others based on their kite position. I started at the beginning of the wa season just gone and am already unhooked riding blind judges etc. I found the most helpful way to learn is watching videos on basic water starts. Now if I want to learn a new trick I might watch a video a couple of times and think about how I would do the same. All those things hippies say about visualising what you should do stands true in this sport. Just keep building your confidence and don't be afraid to push yourself.
stan1169
stan1169
32 posts
32 posts
4 Jun 2015 10:57am
Thanks Dave, its good to hear that in the space of one season its possible to become proficient. I haven't been out for weeks due to work and other commitments but also because the weather forecast oftend shows that the conditions were not right.
For example last weekend it predicted high winds so I left the kite at home but popped down Melville Water anyway to watch and it wasn't high winds at all. I would have been able to get out there quite easily.
At the moment the main 7 day forecast for Perth is showing 14knots but live wind at Melville and just about everywhere else is much lower than that.


1950
1950
71 posts
71 posts
4 Jun 2015 4:34pm
Sounds stupid but always try to take all your stuff with you. Forecast is just trend, knowing local conditions and micro location stuff is great thing. There will be days when forecast and real situation will differ a lot.
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