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fcaramia
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10 Mar 2015 11:40am
So, yesterday the wind showed up at Brighton around 6pm. There were ~12 kites in the water and 2 fishermen in the middle of the beach.

Are they allowed there? Don't they have to go to the pier/breakwaters?

There were a couple of noobs body dragging, not sure if there were any problems there

I got caught up with their lines, even though I was maybe 10 meters away from them. They started rolling their lines in, screaming at me. I didn't want their hooks to get to me, so I grabbed the lines and broke them, kited back out.
Peahi
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10 Mar 2015 1:27pm
you are probably lucky they didn't thump you
Smithy
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10 Mar 2015 2:25pm
You are kidding right.......

I am guessing that they were also there before the kites.... So generous to give them a whole 10m of space...
33frupus
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10 Mar 2015 4:44pm
Good work.

I'm sure next Tuesday night their lumps of lead with sharp hooks attached will be no match for your soft air filled kite.
Brohan
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10 Mar 2015 5:08pm
fcaramia said..
So, yesterday the wind showed up at Brighton around 6pm. There were ~12 kites in the water and 2 fishermen in the middle of the beach.

Are they allowed there? Don't they have to go to the pier/breakwaters?

There were a couple of noobs body dragging, not sure if there were any problems there

I got caught up with their lines, even though I was maybe 10 meters away from them. They started rolling their lines in, screaming at me. I didn't want their hooks to get to me, so I grabbed the lines and broke them, kited back out.


Isn't it like a sports dedicated beach or something like that? Fishing and kite boarding are a bad mix, I would have probably have had a chat to them on the beach and if they didn't move on maybe do the same to save some poor guy getting a hook stuck in him.
chino
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10 Mar 2015 6:00pm
Great, another demographic group we plan on pissing off. As if angering parents with kids, single women with dogs, lifesavers with boats, and homeowners with power lines and trees wasn't enough.
33frupus
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10 Mar 2015 9:59pm
You guys have got to be "taking the piss"

You couldn't write better stuff , this is comedy gold!

So next time some kid builds a sandcastle at brigjton, you can smash it down and inform him promptly he's on a " sports dedicated beach" an may be encroaching on a kite landing area
nigelw2
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10 Mar 2015 10:19pm
33frupus said...
You guys have got to be "taking the piss"

You couldn't write better stuff , this is comedy gold!

So next time some kid builds a sandcastle at brigjton, you can smash it down and inform him promptly he's on a " sports dedicated beach" an may be encroaching on a kite landing area


Yep, you might be allowed to kite there but it certainly doesn't mean people aren't allowed to do other things on the beach.
Did you expect him to go home when the first kite pumped up?
chino
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10 Mar 2015 10:32pm
nigelw2 said..



33frupus said...
You guys have got to be "taking the piss"

You couldn't write better stuff , this is comedy gold!

So next time some kid builds a sandcastle at brigjton, you can smash it down and inform him promptly he's on a " sports dedicated beach" an may be encroaching on a kite landing area





Yep, you might be allowed to kite there but it certainly doesn't mean people aren't allowed to do other things on the beach.
Did you expect him to go home when the first kite pumped up?




I can see the headlines now

"Altercation between Kite Surfer and Old Greek Man Who Has Probably Fished At That Beach Since The War"
"Surfer alleges Greek Guy on 'Sports Dedicated Beach'"
"Old Greek Fishermen protest planned for Fed Square due to not being considered a sport"
dp89
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10 Mar 2015 10:52pm
fcaramia said...
So, yesterday the wind showed up at Brighton around 6pm. There were ~12 kites in the water and 2 fishermen in the middle of the beach.

Are they allowed there? Don't they have to go to the pier/breakwaters?

There were a couple of noobs body dragging, not sure if there were any problems there

I got caught up with their lines, even though I was maybe 10 meters away from them. They started rolling their lines in, screaming at me. I didn't want their hooks to get to me, so I grabbed the lines and broke them, kited back out.


Pull your head in mate, if you don't want hooks in you give them more than 10m space.
Peterc150
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10 Mar 2015 11:14pm
Keep away from fishermen, lines and hooks don't mix well with kiters or kites. They have every right to be there. FFS
Peahi
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11 Mar 2015 11:47am
what do those last three letters mean Peter?
RosieKB
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11 Mar 2015 11:50am
fcaramia seems like a very level headed sensible guy FFS get off his back

I'd rather kite with the fisherman around than fcaramia but thats just me..
Loftywinds
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11 Mar 2015 1:09pm
Peterc150 said..
Keep away from fishermen, lines and hooks don't mix well with kiters or kites. They have every right to be there. FFS


+1

Guys... there are a lot of silver spoon kiters lately in St Kilda and Brighton, as they live across the road or close by in their huge mansions. That's the only reason this is an issue. These "dentists" are bored riding their carbon bikes down the Esplanade, so they've decided to take up kite surfing and have the money to buy into the sport.
Next time you pull up to the beach, just have a quick look at the types of cars that are parked along the road or in the car parks.
Just a bunch of yuppies that think they own everything around them.
tomme
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11 Mar 2015 2:43pm
Loftywinds said..

Peterc150 said..
Keep away from fishermen, lines and hooks don't mix well with kiters or kites. They have every right to be there. FFS



+1

Guys... there are a lot of silver spoon kiters lately in St Kilda and Brighton, as they live across the road or close by in their huge mansions. That's the only reason this is an issue. These "dentists" are bored riding their carbon bikes down the Esplanade, so they've decided to take up kite surfing and have the money to buy into the sport.
Next time you pull up to the beach, just have a quick look at the types of cars that are parked along the road or in the car parks.
Just a bunch of yuppies that think they own everything around them.


plenty of hard working guys in the sport, some may drive nice cars and still shred. How does someone making money or not have any impact on how you enjoy the sport?
fcaramia
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11 Mar 2015 4:55pm
No wonder the kite community has a well deserved "toxic" label on it.

I meant my post as a warning. Give the fishermen some room as 10 meters is not enough. Specially if there are noobs body dragging in the beach, give them a word.

I've never fish myself, so I didn't have a clue on how long those lines went in. My first instinct was to break the lines with my hands, or should I've just waited to get hooked? What's the protocol for this situation?

I'm the first person to stick to a kite area and pack my **** up when the crowds hit the beach. But anyways, feel free to blow **** out of proportion again.
33frupus
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11 Mar 2015 8:13pm
My first instinct was to break the lines with my hands,

So if one day your kite landed near them I'm assuming it would be ok if their first instinct was to break your lines with their knives..

fcaramia
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11 Mar 2015 8:44pm
If anyone gets tangle between a flying kite lines, I really hope they have a knife with them.
Brohan
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11 Mar 2015 8:57pm
33frupus said..
My first instinct was to break the lines with my hands,

So if one day your kite landed near them I'm assuming it would be ok if their first instinct was to break your lines with their knives..



Breaking their lines is a bit far..... I would have a talk to them and see if they could move down the beach a bit or something. I know kiters rocked up after they were there but it's kinda hard to see a 10m+ line with a hook on the end, I don't wanna be riding a long and a hook gets stuck into me and then ripped out because I can't stop instantly. Everyone just should be more aware of each other and give everyone enough space.
loftsofwind
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11 Mar 2015 8:41pm
please tell me how you went with breaking that 'fishing line' with your bare hands, usually that stuff is strong as anything.
fcaramia
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12 Mar 2015 8:39am
Used the scalpel I keep in my Porsche. I considere it part of my hands.
Sandfoot
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12 Mar 2015 8:50am
Hey fc, if you're tangled in fishing line, take your board off and throw your board down wind, then push the fish line under Neath you and away from you so it won't catch you harness, it happens very rarely.

Windsurfers, kiters and sups have rights, there are areas where we can't go, surely we have the right to one or two small beaches in the bay, the slsc won't allow fishing near the flags because of the danger to water users

There needs to be better signage to let the public know that certain areas are wind sport zoned
rockykite
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12 Mar 2015 10:00am
Loftywinds said..

Peterc150 said..
Keep away from fishermen, lines and hooks don't mix well with kiters or kites. They have every right to be there. FFS



+1

Guys... there are a lot of silver spoon kiters lately in St Kilda and Brighton, as they live across the road or close by in their huge mansions. That's the only reason this is an issue. These "dentists" are bored riding their carbon bikes down the Esplanade, so they've decided to take up kite surfing and have the money to buy into the sport.
Next time you pull up to the beach, just have a quick look at the types of cars that are parked along the road or in the car parks.
Just a bunch of yuppies that think they own everything around them.


Are you jealous from other people being successful.
I'd like to remind you that the more people taking part in kite surfing the better off the sport will be. Lets not hate on people who are richer than you who wanna take up the sport
fcaramia
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12 Mar 2015 10:56am
Sandfoot said..
Hey fc, if you're tangled in fishing line, take your board off and throw your board down wind, then push the fish line under Neath you and away from you so it won't catch you harness, it happens very rarely.

Windsurfers, kiters and sups have rights, there are areas where we can't go, surely we have the right to one or two small beaches in the bay, the slsc won't allow fishing near the flags because of the danger to water users

There needs to be better signage to let the public know that certain areas are wind sport zoned


Thanks mate, seems logical.


sirstomp
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12 Mar 2015 11:26am
The word must be spreading around the fishing community!!!
There were 6 fishermen at the water’s edge yesterday arvo/evening at Middle Brighton, they must be loving it down there at the moment!
2 guys each end, plus two smack-bang in the middle - spreading out to take up the whole shoreline...

Roberto must be having a few difficulties with lessons, trying to navigate around these guys.

On the other hand, after a solid morning in theatre performing breast augmentations and labiaplasty, I’m sure there’s nothing like hopping across the Esplanade for a quick kook-out at Brighton Kite Beach!
33frupus
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12 Mar 2015 12:20pm
sirstomp said...
The word must be spreading around the fishing community!!!
There were 6 fishermen at the water’s edge yesterday arvo/evening at Middle Brighton, they must be loving it down there at the moment!
2 guys each end, plus two smack-bang in the middle - spreading out to take up the whole shoreline...

Yep, original comment got posted to a fishing forum, carnt imagine any issues arising from that !!!
HappyG
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12 Mar 2015 7:42pm
THIS IS VERY VERY FUNNY.

DONT TICK OFF THE BOATING AND FISHING LOBBY IN VICTORIA THEY HAVE MAJOR POWER!!!

I kite no where near fisherman, I have a great respect for all water users.

Give Fisherman room man they usually realise its not a great idea to have kite boarders zooming around and mess up the water.

Last time this happened I told the guy this aint the spot to fish... to open, its to shallow with no deep hollows, or natural places for the fish to hide in.

I even offered to take him and his mate out on my timber put put out of the river mouth to a better spot (to go fishing with me at sunset).

Although on the other hand... I have also had fishos at Altona peir cast heavy sinkers trying to hit me. Ying and Yang I guess.

Never break a fishos line man that will get you into BIG TROUBLE.

Remember they sit there pissed off sinking beer all day (because they dont have a boat), that is a recipe for a thumping.

I know its a pain in the bum when a fisherman sits smack bang in the middle of your local spot, just repect everyone its a BIG BAY.


hookworm
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12 Mar 2015 8:23pm
I'm going to go fishing off Brighton beach tommoro sounds like the fish are biting !! Only thing is ill be using 80lb braid and a funny topic as bait can't wait to hook me some noobs !! Might even throw out an old north bar lure and see if I can catch me a bernie fish !!
tomme
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12 Mar 2015 10:47pm
hookworm said..
I'm going to go fishing off Brighton beach tommoro sounds like the fish are biting !! Only thing is ill be using 80lb braid and a funny topic as bait can't wait to hook me some noobs !! Might even throw out an old north bar lure and see if I can catch me a bernie fish !!


THE DONG
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13 Mar 2015 12:27am
haha wish id been their to see this.. everyone is over reacting. lets face it there is no room for fisherman on this beach. Different story if its a kid dangling a little rod in the water but if its a surf rod or the like they can move on. Not our fault every fisherman on the piers have to use 20 rods each to catch half a meals worth of undersized fish.

Personally i blame the pis s ant wind we've been getting this summer.
33frupus
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13 Mar 2015 9:16am
THE DONG said...
haha wish id been their to see this.. everyone is over reacting.



If you want to see some over reacting you should check out the reply to this on the Australian fishing forum blog.

I've got a feeling this isn't going to end well .
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