all that anyone knows is what was posted.... You would have to asume the measurement would be at axle height which would include the wheel dia....., which means that yachts with a large camber angled wheels get the advantage of a wider wheel base, if they wanted.
Just a guess untill more info is found.

I did that today clem. it came to 5.50m
Cleers
Vic

I think it would be great if someone were to throw some money at a 5.6 Mini concept.
Who Knows, we could end up with a much better Blok-art.

Gizmo
Thats cool. Love the Fanta orange gel coat.
Just need it a bit smaller.......

Gizmo,
Well....that does look kinda seeeeeeexxxey, horny even.
A lot of design packaging thought, and may I say, colour pressure
on the optic nerve. quite fast looking , even when photographed ....still
I reckon one of those speckle-y [holographic] paint jobs would top it.
I doooo like the million mile an hour wheels, they seem to be the ultimate, or very near. But I am yet to fond them on the shelves. .
Seems that the body shell may have been roto moulded , ....or a blow job Looks decidedly Dutch or Germanic
The guards are good , better than the wet salt covered "yobbos" i saw on a getaway, filmed somewhere on the back blocks of the west Australian desert, something to blow ones trumpet about there. [}:)]
It would look great on a light roof rack , and be a great conversation starter , as someone said.
How many paper bags full of emus/euros would it set back mr average
And here in may be the cheapest answer to advertising and promotion.
If all owners blow-k,s and llm's drove around with their machines up on their roofs
One would never know ...unless they gave it a go......locally, suck it and see

Hi Guys
I joined the site below and asked the ? about this 5.6 thing.

www.ipksa.info/?topic=592.0

It is the footprint of the yacht which makes would make the rule open for plenty of experemintation.
Cheers
aus230

I think you will find that it in the sandyacht forum on that site

www.ipksa.info/?board=8.0

Cheers
aus230

Joe, I thought the same as you using a circle measuring 1.5 which was then edited to 1.8m, I then questioned that measurment as Dia. or radius and the reply then came back stating a 5.6m of rope, which actually makes sense.
Refering back to my maths at school ... the circumference of a circle is (3.14 x Dia. of the circle.)
So 3.14 x 1.8m = 5.6m and as this is measured with a FLEXIBLE rope that can go around the yacht.

May I make suggestion about getting more info from FISY, there should be some Australian reps on the FISLY I dont know who they are but they are the people that you should follow up with.

niaychi said...

Gizmo said...

Joe, I thought the same as you using a circle measuring 1.5 which was then edited to 1.8m, I then questioned that measurment as Dia. or radius and the reply then came back stating a 5.6m of rope, which actually makes sense.
Refering back to my maths at school ... the circumference of a circle is (3.14 x Dia. of the circle.)
So 3.14 x 1.8m = 5.6m and as this is measured with a FLEXIBLE rope that can go around the yacht.

May I make suggestion about getting more info from FISY, there should be some Australian reps on the FISLY I dont know who they are but they are the people that you should follow up with.

australia is not a member of fisly, i could be wrong,anyway they do nothing for the sport in his country

I thought Australia was.......
http://www.fisly.org/scripts/index.php?loc=council&it=2

The link is infact to ALSA and its committee, so has the current ALSA followed on its duties to keep the information up to date?

The FISLY site was current as of ... With the information that it had been supplied
® 2009 FISLY. All rights reserved.
last modified: 12/10/2009 07:24:55
webmaster: Geert Debeerst


www.seabreeze.com.au/Articles/Land%20Sailing/ALSA-Constitution_1546890.aspx




But as mentioned earlier in the thread .....

At the European Championships in Germany there were several meetings held about FISLY (www.fisly.org)items, and land sailing sport in general.

At one of the Non FISLY meetings it was agreed that a simple definition for a "miniyacht" was required which would allow the sport to develop and which may then be adopted by FISLY.

The definition chosen is almost identical to that used in Ireland I am glad to report.

A "miniyacht" is

"Any assembled land or sandyacht that fits inside a continious loop of rope 5.6m long is a miniyacht"

Expect to see lots of events for such crafts coming up in Europe over the next few years .

niaychi said...
just goes to show fisly doesnt follow up or try to keep there records up to date either as you should know it has been a long time since m bell was president,and i would find it difficult to believe that you were not aware that these reps are no longer involved in the sport .

If an Individual or Organisation changes its contact details/committee representation it is the full responsibility of the Individual/Organisation to notify all parties it has dealings with. In this case FISLY indicates on its Website all details were updated October 2009, if they have not been informed of changes it is not their reponsibility to chase everyone World Wide up. An impossible task I would imagine.

niaychi thank you for offering your services (consider it service to the community of Landsailing) to be responsible for updating all of the appropriate details on behalf of ALSA to FISLY as you seem to have a close association with ALSA.

Thanks....well done

Earlier in this discussion there was a comment that "FISLY does nothing for Australia.
My question (having been a FISLY rep and attended many meetings), is "What has Australia done to help FISLY achieve it's goals?"
The same could be said of other countries too, but FISLY is an organisation of VOLUNTEERS who try to further the sport. It is not their responsibility to go out of their way to chase contacts who fail to update contacts, nor is it their responsibility to make endless unresponded efforts to help any country which does nothing to stay in touch.
I don't see a lot of point in throwing bricks unless you are prepared to put something in yourself.
Who was the leader who said " Ask not what my country can do for me, ask what can I do for my country".

cisco said...

J.F.K.

You are right Rhys. It is not up to FISLY to chase up every member association.

However it should not be beyond them to make an announcement on their site that their records are being updated and request members, existing, former and potentially new, respond on the FISLY site.

A mass email out to last known contacts would not be an onerous task either.

Cheers Cisco

All correct, just remember that the countries are the members, not individuals, in the same way (I believe) that clubs are members of ALSA, not individuals. Countries are/were advised through their last known contacts of each of the meetings which are held, generally in Europe, and it is up to those member countries to accept or decline the attendance. I went to plenty of them on behalf of NZ and as a proxy for Aus with voting instructions, each usually a 2 day meeting. If the encumbent delegate does not pass on the new delegate details, often cos they got the pricker, then there is a bit of time delay till the "new" person is taken on board while credentials are checked etc. I know for an absolute fact that people had arrived at meetings, voted etc, and were then found to be "non-genuine" and presenting a personal view rather than that of their country. Much yelling and shouting to get the country view re-instated! (At the next meeting).
Now Martin has I suspect long gone. So efforts should be continued to have a presence. NZ can't as there is no National association.
And dsepite what anyone says, the vast majority of the members of FISLY board are old sailors, just come from an era before most of us, or should that be all of us?

Just had a thought, would you want some of the people who have posted on here on random occasions to be the person claiming to be the FISLY rep for Aus and getting their views considered?

niaychi said...

niaychi thank you for offering your services (consider it service to the community of Landsailing) to be responsible for updating all of the appropriate details on behalf of ALSA to FISLY as you seem to have a close association with ALSA.

Thanks....well done


quote thank you for your sarcasm

Oh no I wasn't being sarastic at all, in any group / community it should be up to everyone to assist for the benefit of all in that group /community.
Where would Australia and the world without volunteers and groups assisting the communities i.e CFS, SES, Meals on wheels, Life Savers, etc.

j murray said...

So the million dollar question is.....................

who ? on this forum or maybe elsewhere

would be the best rep for Australia.

Or maybe this is better ...Who wouldn't be ?

Or should it be Australasia includes New Zealand

Haha, but there you go. FISLY will ONLY recognise a person nominated by the "recognised national association for their country"1 So those on the forum only have a voice to FISLY via their NA (and only via their clubs too), so the forum could not make any choice, cos it's not the National association, (and certainly ALSA is not the voice for NZ) and much as I love this forum, I suspect it won't be the voice for ALSA, let's not go there please!
Whoever is the delegate should be prepared to be at meetings! Costly, unless Fisly has finally arrived in the late 20th century and tried telephone conferences, which I personally hate, as a lot of the time it's not only the words we use but body languae etc that conveys messages. And we all know that emails can be misconstrued too!