http://www.phoenixlandsailing.com/ALSA/ALSA.htm

lachlan3556 said...

Wow!

Im speechless, they won't partake and say whats happening with ALSA here on the forums but they dont mind having a whole website (which is a good thing). Next they will start their own 'Australian landsailing forum'.

I didn't see any mention of Blokarts or promo class. I hope this is because they are still developing the site, looked a little patchy in parts. Not sure I like the look of its close association with Phoenix landsailing (conflicts of interest maybe??) so I hope its solely for practical reasons (web hosting). Its definately a step forward though

I have to say its great to 'see' ALSA with a public front. I hope its a sign of good things to come

My thoughts exactly lachlan. Great news to see ALSA coming out into the 21st century "Flat world".

By the look of the site, ALSA is aligning directly with FISLY and NALSA re class and racing rules. The builders and other class sailors now have some certainty.

Blokarts are mentioned in the mini section.

It is interesting to note what is being said in the first of the articles quoted.

"The specific and primary purposes are to promote the sport and pastime of land sailing for the exclusive enjoyment of members of the Association and to provide a forum for communication among the members that will advance the sport."

Some explanation of the phrase " for the exclusive enjoyment of members of the Association " would be helpful. The use of the word "exclusive" seems inappropriate and smacks of it still being an autocratic rather than democratic organisation.

However the web site is a great start and I too hope is a sign of greater things to come.

Cheers Cisco

I guess its a little unusual that you'd want to promote the sport exclusively to those who are already members of ALSA. You'd think that would be like preaching to the converted.

I'm keen to see what format the "forum for communication" will take given that forum implies two way communication.

Still its a great start and will only get better with fine tuning.

Not happy - anyone notice an ommision? No mention of Lake Lefroy Land Sailing Club inc considering that LLLSC was a founding club of ALSA and the oldest land sailing club in Aust I find this strange????

We are actively encouraging open communication and post our events (all open) as widely as possible but not a brass razoo on the ALSA website.

Perhaps it is yet to be uploaded and still underconstruction??? or do LLLSC members just ask to many questions....

I am interested to know when the info on *mini's* on the ALSA website was adopted in Australia?

aus230 said...

At least its a start guys, a positive step foward at least thats the way I am looking at it and we have some clarification of specs.
Cheers
AUS230

I am with you on a positive step forward Vic. I think what we are all saying here is "A great first step ALSA, but a journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step, so keep stepping because you still have a few miles to go."

I am with you on a positive step forward Vic. I think what we are all saying here is "A great first step ALSA, but a journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step, so keep stepping because you still have a few miles to go."

Fair comment Cisco I will reserve judgement for the time being and wait until construction has finished.

It does look like much of the stuff has just been cut and pasted from other websites, (which does save lots of typing). The sailing rules with their black pictures were copied from my article on seabreeze (I spent ages re-typing these from faded old photocopies) unfortunately when I uploaded the diagrams of the yachts into the article on the seabreeze article edit function something went wrong and they went black. I did always mean to try and sort it out with Laurie but never got around do it. So unfortunately you can not see the diagrams properly including the wind direction and markers. If anyone wants a copy of the sailing rules with ledgible diagrams (ie not black background). I have it on my computer and will happily share if asked.
The 2007 FISLY class 5 rules were also copied from the seabreeze site too as they contain the same formating error that I did not notice when uploading.

I look forward to a new era of ALSA being proactive with open communication, promotion of land sailing and a national association where we can all be heard and represented in.
Susan

Sorry Susan I delayed building it untill I had some clafication on specs, Plus the weather has been to damp for fiberglasing. I picked up the Trophy for the long weekend today.
See you then
Cheers

So when did ALSA change the rules for small yachts to the NALSA rules?
ONLY a few weeks ago we were all assured that the class6 rules still applied !!!!!!!
(There goes my current project straight into the big green bin!!!)

Did only a few people of ALSA make the decisions (and was it made for commercial gains, ie; conflict of interest) or was it put to all of ALSA members?

For a decision this large one has to assume there was a "SPECIAL" meeting or A.G.M. held?

Were you aware of these changes, did you attend the meeting hillsy?

Gizmo said...
Were you aware of these changes, did you attend the meeting hillsy?

No I've had no contact with anyone from ALSA other than DR advising next years membership for ALYC is due.

ALSA Website

Hi there All
You have all jumped the gun regarding the ALSA website and its content.

I was asked by ALSA to develop a website and the files/pages you see at the moment are only draft pages.

Since these pages went onto Phoenix a lot more development has been done with extra class pages etc etc etc.

The pages have been hidden on the back of Phoenix landsailing because I have been checking the links between the pages and making sure there is no errors when it finally goes live.

Please wait until the ALSA committee vote on the final pages and when the ALSA site is live on its on site and domain.

Clinton

PS. Who was the smartie that found the hidden link?

Hi Boogie
Sorry if I have found somthing that I was not supposet to, but I just typed in google (ALSA land sailing, came back Welcome to ALSA) I was looking for class 5 specs. Can't hide anything on the web maybe we should have been told about the web site.
Cheers

Of topic for a minute thats ok.
I have a Blokart that is gathering dust at the moment due to work (traveling heaps of miles) and the Victorian club has suffered due to this as well.

If you have any ideas, or info that you might think would be interesting for the ALSA website email me.

As I said early it is no where offical, as it has not been voted on, but I will do what I can within the boundries set by ALSA.

How about a list of ALL Australian landsailing clubs including Blokart clubs... and not just clubs that align themselves with ALSA.

How about the CURRENT class regulations, ( putting a wish list for class specs isnt good as it only causes confusion ....)

The ALSA web site needs to reflect the constitution of ALSA
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OBJECTS
The objects of the Association shall be:

A. To govern, develop and advance the sport of land sailing in Australia.


B. To promote, supervise and control the competitions for land sailing bodies and members.


C. To encourage land sailing bodies in Australia to affiliate with the Association, and to give all possible assistance to them in order to promote the sport.


D. To lay down standards, regulate and adjudicate over all facets of the sport to achieve co-ordination of the bodies and their aims.


E. To establish and maintain contact with overseas land sailing bodies for exchange of advancements in the sport and

better hang off Vic

Before you do could you please finish the mold for the seat . I would like to be the first to put in an order. ( not kidding)