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Created by Boatin > 9 months ago, 12 Jun 2013
saltiest1
NSW, 2055 posts
23 Jun 2019 1:36PM
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New fuel tank (bladder 150litre after splitting tank through Bass Strait) 2x 120 hr batteries, new 135% jib, serviced all winches, new fuel lines all stainless with in line strainer plus 2 in line filters. Secured noisy cables in bast, all new seacocks. Antifoul and cutlass bearing replaced. Autopilot brace tore off hull on Bass Strait so that's also been glassed back onto hull and additional support installed. New windows throughout and engine just serviced.
That's enough for 3 months I think.




southace
QLD, 4077 posts
5 Jul 2019 5:40PM
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Fitted a bench under the microwave to complete my galley/garage refit, its removable so I can get to the freezer. I'm thinking now I have enough bench space to make a sanga or fix stuff!










shaggybaxter
QLD, 1752 posts
16 Jul 2019 10:50AM
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If boats were part of the food chain, spinnaker sheets would definitely be a predator and stanchions one of their play things.
Straightening three bent victims before a Cat 3 audit this weekend, which they would not have passed.
I really hate bent stanchions and loose lifelines., so am very happy to tick this one off the list.



Bananabender
QLD, 749 posts
16 Jul 2019 12:08PM
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Took the boat up to Horizon Shores yesterday for a long overdue antifoul , change of dyneema keel rope ,cut and polish and a few other odds and ends
. I wish you Southerners would keep the cold winds down there. OMG it was cold motoring into a twenty knot Westerly for an hour even with my greasy wool and spray jacket on at 700hrs. The fork driver had five layers of upper clothing on ,and a pair of shorts..
I've had the Sonata for two years now and she's pretty exciting sailing solo in a breeze . I want a bigger boat for a bit more comfort stuff it .

Found out why I had trouble achieving 5 Knots .





Yara
NSW, 866 posts
16 Jul 2019 12:28PM
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Bananabender said..
Took the boat up to Horizon Shores yesterday for a long overdue antifoul , change of dyneema keel rope ,cut and polish and a few other odds and ends
. I wish you Southerners would keep the cold winds down there. OMG it was cold motoring into a twenty knot Westerly for an hour even with my greasy wool and spray jacket on at 700hrs. The fork driver had five layers of upper clothing on ,and a pair of shorts..
I've had the Sonata for two years now and she's pretty exciting sailing solo in a breeze . I want a bigger boat for a bit more comfort stuff it .

Found out why I had trouble achieving 5 Knots .






I'm guessing the keel rope failed and that is why it is hanging down and fouled? Many t/s boats lift the keel to minimise fouling on a mooring, but then have difficulty dropping it if not done often enough.

Bananabender
QLD, 749 posts
16 Jul 2019 12:41PM
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Yara said..

Bananabender said..
Took the boat up to Horizon Shores yesterday for a long overdue antifoul , change of dyneema keel rope ,cut and polish and a few other odds and ends
. I wish you Southerners would keep the cold winds down there. OMG it was cold motoring into a twenty knot Westerly for an hour even with my greasy wool and spray jacket on at 700hrs. The fork driver had five layers of upper clothing on ,and a pair of shorts..
I've had the Sonata for two years now and she's pretty exciting sailing solo in a breeze . I want a bigger boat for a bit more comfort stuff it .

Found out why I had trouble achieving 5 Knots .






I'm guessing the keel rope failed and that is why it is hanging down and fouled? Many t/s boats lift the keel to minimise fouling on a mooring, but then have difficulty dropping it if not done often enough.


No ,Actually the keel rope has been on for two years and is fine . I just think it's prudent to change . Keel was left down for lift to pressure wash
Usually leave it up ,when I remember. It jammed once and by slackening rope and jumping up and down beside keel box it dropped so I leave it hanging 10 cms from top .

garymalmgren
247 posts
16 Jul 2019 1:30PM
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Found out why I had trouble achieving 5 Knots .

I know what you mean BB. Sailing with a fender down slows me down too. LOL

Gary

Bananabender
QLD, 749 posts
16 Jul 2019 3:31PM
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Found out why I had trouble achieving 5 Knots .

I know what you mean BB. Sailing with a fender down slows me down too. LOL

Gary


boty
QLD, 509 posts
16 Jul 2019 4:07PM
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Bananabender said..
Took the boat up to Horizon Shores yesterday for a long overdue antifoul , change of dyneema keel rope ,cut and polish and a few other odds and ends
. I wish you Southerners would keep the cold winds down there. OMG it was cold motoring into a twenty knot Westerly for an hour even with my greasy wool and spray jacket on at 700hrs. The fork driver had five layers of upper clothing on ,and a pair of shorts..
I've had the Sonata for two years now and she's pretty exciting sailing solo in a breeze . I want a bigger boat for a bit more comfort stuff it .

Found out why I had trouble achieving 5 Knots .






at least the fishing must be good

Bananabender
QLD, 749 posts
16 Jul 2019 4:56PM
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boty said..


Bananabender said..
Took the boat up to Horizon Shores yesterday for a long overdue antifoul , change of dyneema keel rope ,cut and polish and a few other odds and ends
. I wish you Southerners would keep the cold winds down there. OMG it was cold motoring into a twenty knot Westerly for an hour even with my greasy wool and spray jacket on at 700hrs. The fork driver had five layers of upper clothing on ,and a pair of shorts..
I've had the Sonata for two years now and she's pretty exciting sailing solo in a breeze . I want a bigger boat for a bit more comfort stuff it .

Found out why I had trouble achieving 5 Knots .






at least the fishing must be good



Ha, If only I had realised.

Lazzz
NSW, 453 posts
12 Aug 2019 6:53PM
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With all this cold weather we're having lately I decided to install a heater.
Finally got the exhaust plumbing finished today & fired it up - to say I'm impressed is an understatement. It certainly pumps out the heat, is very quiet & draws very low amps as well.
I have two outlets - one aft & one forward which pumps hot air into the bedroom. It has a remote so I can turn it on while laying in bed to warm the place up before I get up!! I'll have to study how to set the timer!








southace
QLD, 4077 posts
12 Aug 2019 7:58PM
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With all this cold weather we're having lately I decided to install a heater.
Finally got the exhaust plumbing finished today & fired it up - to say I'm impressed is an understatement. It certainly pumps out the heat, is very quiet & draws very low amps as well.
I have two outlets - one aft & one forward which pumps hot air into the bedroom. It has a remote so I can turn it on while laying in bed to warm the place up before I get up!! I'll have to study how to set the timer!









Very nice it's next on my list after just ordering this which flattened my boat dollars. www.ebay.com.au/itm/271875528915
Your start battery appears a bit low lazzz?

2bish
TAS, 334 posts
14 Aug 2019 10:30PM
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Lazzz said..
With all this cold weather we're having lately I decided to install a heater.
Finally got the exhaust plumbing finished today & fired it up - to say I'm impressed is an understatement. It certainly pumps out the heat, is very quiet & draws very low amps as well.
I have two outlets - one aft & one forward which pumps hot air into the bedroom. It has a remote so I can turn it on while laying in bed to warm the place up before I get up!! I'll have to study how to set the timer!









Sounds good Lazzz, ebay jobbie is it? do you have a link? Love to see some pics of your exhaust too?

LooseChange
NSW, 1989 posts
14 Aug 2019 11:05PM
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Lazzz said..
With all this cold weather we're having lately I decided to install a heater.
Finally got the exhaust plumbing finished today & fired it up - to say I'm impressed is an understatement. It certainly pumps out the heat, is very quiet & draws very low amps as well.
I have two outlets - one aft & one forward which pumps hot air into the bedroom. It has a remote so I can turn it on while laying in bed to warm the place up before I get up!! I'll have to study how to set the timer!






A very impressive unit being able to provide 8000w from 12 volts that equates to pulling about 600 amps . Yeah I know it's just the typical Chinese blurb and it can't provide 8000 electrical watts but that's what they put on everything to make it more impressive, it just seemed funny to see it there.

2bish
TAS, 334 posts
15 Aug 2019 12:24AM
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I've had Mawson out of the water for almost two months now, it's been a mission! High word count warning!!

So I've scraped and sanded antifouling back to a solid base. Man it was thick and lumpy and cratered and I'd be very happy to never have to do that again . Some large patches of antifoul weren't properly bonded and they flaked back to the barrier or gel coat. It looks like no tie coat was used and on a previous occasion they'd tried getting a chemical bond with the barrier coat. Talking with the Wattyl rep down here, that is possible if you get your timing spot on, but Wattyl won't guarantee it, they want the tie coat over the barrier coat, then the antifoul layers. So I treated all those areas with Wattyl PR 250 barrier/undercoat, then tie coat, then 3 coats of antifoul all over.

I also removed the rudder. There was quite a bit of wear and play in the lower part of the rudder bearing, it's a 70mm ID bronze tube around 30cm high that's fiberglassed into the hull, and the bottom of the tube was slogged out causing the rudder to knock sometimes. Both the top end of that tube and the upper bearing bronze bush mounted in the cockpit floor were ok and not worn. I followed the West System epoxy repair method for this fix. It's an epoxy, colloidal silica and graphite mixture which I smeared up into the cleaned and keyed section of the bush along with a length of HDPE machined to 70mm and inserted as a dummy shaft into the entire bush right up to the top bush in order to keep alignment while the epoxy set. It seems to have worked, it looks and feels solid, but time will tell...

On inspecting the rudder itself, there was clearly water intrusion and I reckon a good litre drained out. I could see a crack in the upper part of the rudder running out from the stock, so it looks like its been heavily stressed at some time. As well as this, there was some corrosion around the stock and top of rudder body interface. So I cut a big hunk out and opened up the top part of the rudder and stock, (it's one of those dough filled constructions and there were some cracks running through the dough allowing water penetration). I probably opened up a notch 25 x 25 cm or so. I just wanted to get a good look at what corrosion was on the shaft internally. And while there was a little light surface corrosion, there wasn't anything nasty. I had the local metal expert look at it and he wasn't concerned. So that was a much better outcome than having to mold and then remake the rudder entirely. I cut some slots in the bottom of the rudder and continually flushed fresh water through it over a couple of weeks and then let it dry out. Then I filled in the cut out section with an epoxy and balloons mix, and re fiberglassed the sides and top to strengthen and seal it all up again. The whole rudder was completely stripped back to gel coat, faired with compound and coated with barrier coat. At this point I ran a bead of Sikka around the shaft to rudder intersection, my thinking is that this may offer a bit more of a flexible barrier if there's any extra stress and bumps to the rudder and may keep it sealed and waterproof a bit longer. It's a big hunk of spade rudder on the Scanner 391 and I imagine that loosing control of it in reverse, and having it slam over, would put enormous stress on it.

Over the last few days I've moved the engine and lifted the saildrive out so that I can change the seals. Volvo recommend every 7 years. The seal itself looks absolutely fine though and you hear about them still being fine after 15 years or more. But if it were to fail and sink the boat, the insurance company would probably have grounds to reject a claim I imagine? The most time consuming part of the engine removal was getting the darn hoses off their spigots, talk about tedious. I must have taken an hour just to get the exhaust hose off the heat exchanger. I also faffed about for ages trying to coax the sail drive out of the hole in the hull, but no matter which way I angled and twisted it, it just wasn't going to work. And that wasn't at all like how easy it seemed on YouTube . I finally twigged that I needed to remove the lower prop shaft/ gear assembly (10 min job), then it lifted out easily. I'm sure if I did this all again it would only take half the time or less, it just takes so long first time round with this stuff doesn't it?

Still more to do, to be continued... can't wait to go sailing again!




















Lazzz
NSW, 453 posts
Thursday , 15 Aug 2019 5:13PM
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2bish said.

Sounds good Lazzz, ebay jobbie is it? do you have a link? Love to see some pics of your exhaust too?


Yeah mate, ebay - www.ebay.com.au/itm/Metal-Shell-12V-8KW-Diesel-Air-Heater-Thermostat-Remote-RV-Caravan-Motorhome/233247145109?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649

Exhaust runs out the transom through a bilge pump outlet.


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The most time consuming part of the engine removal was getting the darn hoses off their spigots, talk about tedious. I must have taken an hour just to get the exhaust hose off the heat exchanger.



Great effort 2bish!! It will be a different boat when you get back in the water!!

I can agree about getting the old hoses off. I just replaced my 75mm wet exhaust hose - what a mission

Lazzz
NSW, 453 posts
Thursday , 15 Aug 2019 5:30PM
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LooseChange said..
A very impressive unit being able to provide 8000w from 12 volts that equates to pulling about 600 amps . Yeah I know it's just the typical Chinese blurb and it can't provide 8000 electrical watts but that's what they put on everything to make it more impressive, it just seemed funny to see it there.


Works pretty well

When you start it up (with or without remote) the LCD screen shows what's going on - it winds over for a bit, then the a glow plug, then it pumps diesel in & then you can hear the actual motor/heater catch, with the screen letting you know what's happening!! The LCD screen is also the thermostat - very technical.

I'll have no chance of fixing it if something goes wrong.

I'm having some fuelling issues at the moment because, instead of using the separate little fuel tank that is supplied, I am drawing from my main fuel tank & the little pump won't suck it through. I'm going to install another fuel pump before the little heater one.

2bish
TAS, 334 posts
Friday , 16 Aug 2019 9:59AM
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New fuel tank (bladder 150litre after splitting tank through Bass Strait) 2x 120 hr batteries, new 135% jib, serviced all winches, new fuel lines all stainless with in line strainer plus 2 in line filters. Secured noisy cables in bast, all new seacocks. Antifoul and cutlass bearing replaced. Autopilot brace tore off hull on Bass Strait so that's also been glassed back onto hull and additional support installed. New windows throughout and engine just serviced.
That's enough for 3 months I think.





You've been busy mate! Looking good!

shaggybaxter
QLD, 1752 posts
Friday , 16 Aug 2019 10:24AM
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I've had Mawson out of the water for almost two months now, it's been a mission! High word count warning!!

So I've scraped and sanded antifouling back to a solid base. Man it was thick and lumpy and cratered and I'd be very happy to never have to do that again . Some large patches of antifoul weren't properly bonded and they flaked back to the barrier or gel coat. It looks like no tie coat was used and on a previous occasion they'd tried getting a chemical bond with the barrier coat. Talking with the Wattyl rep down here, that is possible if you get your timing spot on, but Wattyl won't guarantee it, they want the tie coat over the barrier coat, then the antifoul layers. So I treated all those areas with Wattyl PR 250 barrier/undercoat, then tie coat, then 3 coats of antifoul all over.

I also removed the rudder. There was quite a bit of wear and play in the lower part of the rudder bearing, it's a 70mm ID bronze tube around 30cm high that's fiberglassed into the hull, and the bottom of the tube was slogged out causing the rudder to knock sometimes. Both the top end of that tube and the upper bearing bronze bush mounted in the cockpit floor were ok and not worn. I followed the West System epoxy repair method for this fix. It's an epoxy, colloidal silica and graphite mixture which I smeared up into the cleaned and keyed section of the bush along with a length of HDPE machined to 70mm and inserted as a dummy shaft into the entire bush right up to the top bush in order to keep alignment while the epoxy set. It seems to have worked, it looks and feels solid, but time will tell...

On inspecting the rudder itself, there was clearly water intrusion and I reckon a good litre drained out. I could see a crack in the upper part of the rudder running out from the stock, so it looks like its been heavily stressed at some time. As well as this, there was some corrosion around the stock and top of rudder body interface. So I cut a big hunk out and opened up the top part of the rudder and stock, (it's one of those dough filled constructions and there were some cracks running through the dough allowing water penetration). I probably opened up a notch 25 x 25 cm or so. I just wanted to get a good look at what corrosion was on the shaft internally. And while there was a little light surface corrosion, there wasn't anything nasty. I had the local metal expert look at it and he wasn't concerned. So that was a much better outcome than having to mold and then remake the rudder entirely. I cut some slots in the bottom of the rudder and continually flushed fresh water through it over a couple of weeks and then let it dry out. Then I filled in the cut out section with an epoxy and balloons mix, and re fiberglassed the sides and top to strengthen and seal it all up again. The whole rudder was completely stripped back to gel coat, faired with compound and coated with barrier coat. At this point I ran a bead of Sikka around the shaft to rudder intersection, my thinking is that this may offer a bit more of a flexible barrier if there's any extra stress and bumps to the rudder and may keep it sealed and waterproof a bit longer. It's a big hunk of spade rudder on the Scanner 391 and I imagine that loosing control of it in reverse, and having it slam over, would put enormous stress on it.

Over the last few days I've moved the engine and lifted the saildrive out so that I can change the seals. Volvo recommend every 7 years. The seal itself looks absolutely fine though and you hear about them still being fine after 15 years or more. But if it were to fail and sink the boat, the insurance company would probably have grounds to reject a claim I imagine? The most time consuming part of the engine removal was getting the darn hoses off their spigots, talk about tedious. I must have taken an hour just to get the exhaust hose off the heat exchanger. I also faffed about for ages trying to coax the sail drive out of the hole in the hull, but no matter which way I angled and twisted it, it just wasn't going to work. And that wasn't at all like how easy it seemed on YouTube . I finally twigged that I needed to remove the lower prop shaft/ gear assembly (10 min job), then it lifted out easily. I'm sure if I did this all again it would only take half the time or less, it just takes so long first time round with this stuff doesn't it?

Still more to do, to be continued... can't wait to go sailing again!





















Thanks 2bish,
Great post, and put me down as another for hating hoses. Looking at the pics made my lower back start hurting in sympathy, even with what looks like pretty good access .

Jolene
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Friday , 16 Aug 2019 8:55AM
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Thanks 2bish,
Great post, and put me down as another for hating hoses. Looking at the pics made my lower back start hurting in sympathy, even with what looks like pretty good access .


I agree about the hoses. I make my own fittings and connectors because I was sick of cutting and wrestling hoses in limited space. I find it a safety issue if you can't simply remove a hose. A lot of hose barbs you buy are made for gripping plastic hose and are too aggressive on soft rubber.

shaggybaxter
QLD, 1752 posts
Saturday , 17 Aug 2019 8:02AM
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shaggybaxter said..

Thanks 2bish,
Great post, and put me down as another for hating hoses. Looking at the pics made my lower back start hurting in sympathy, even with what looks like pretty good access .





I agree about the hoses. I make my own fittings and connectors because I was sick of cutting and wrestling hoses in limited space. I find it a safety issue if you can't simply remove a hose. A lot of hose barbs you buy are made for gripping plastic hose and are too aggressive on soft rubber.




Hi Jolene,
I'd love to see some pics. I wish I was that talented to be able to just engineer stuff. I had to repair a small split on the end of my exhaust hose (from sweating and cursing with a screwdriver trying to pry it off), and the %^&*$# stainless steel strength member necessitated a 4" grinder and cutting wheel to fix in situ as it was too hard to get the mongrel thing out.

Jolene
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Saturday , 17 Aug 2019 9:26AM
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Here's a couple of pictures
Below,, the fitting on the left is a purchased hose joiner ( for my exhaust )with very aggressive barbs. Next to it is the one I use that is dead smooth and has a plug in it to drain the exhaust hose if I require, A smear of roof and gutter around it and a hose clamp and your in business. A bit of a pry and a twist to separate it.
The smaller fitting I made is for the raw water seacock Got into trouble with an off the shelf aggressive style barb having to cut the rubber hose from it twice,,,, leaving the hose too short and then having to replace the hose. The new fitting allows the hose to come off in about 10 seconds with a bit of a twist and no damage to the hose.



Below are just various other fittings for engine plumbing that I have made with smooth barbs for rubber hose.
Again on the left/ top is a purchased fitting with aggressive barb that I am replacing.


Ramona
NSW, 5113 posts
Sunday , 18 Aug 2019 7:51AM
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Aries bolted on the stern using the SS bracket for my old windvane. Easy to swap both over. Oar blade left off for now. Off to Japan Monday for 3 weeks so no sailing for a bit.



garymalmgren
247 posts
Sunday , 18 Aug 2019 7:48AM
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Hi Ramona.
I live in Sendai 35 kilos north of Tokyo.
Any chance of making int up here for a sail?

&t=247s

Gary

Ramona
NSW, 5113 posts
Sunday , 18 Aug 2019 6:04PM
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Hi Ramona.
I live in Sendai 35 kilos north of Tokyo.
Any chance of making int up here for a sail?
&t=247s

Gary


Thanks Gary but I wont even ask my wife on that one! We have 3 days in Tokyo then it's a cruise ship around Japan and Korea/ Russia. Have sailed in Japan in an interservice regatta in 1966. I have no idea where it was though now.

garymalmgren
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Sunday , 18 Aug 2019 5:25PM
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Gotcha on the conferring with the wife part.
Have a good trip.

gary

Planeray
NSW, 144 posts
Tuesday , 20 Aug 2019 2:42PM
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Finished up most of my electrical refit over the weekend. I now have wind data, GPS & heading showing on a plotter. Only thing left is to build a small shelf to install the heading sensor on and finally attach the swingarm to the attachment point I epoxied on the other week (forgot a piece when I went out there). Oh, and tidy up the way the cables run, getting rid of the old stuff.

But I'm super happy with the new solar panels and controller being on there - it had been chugging along with a very old and damaged 40W panel with an eBay PWM controller, it's now got 2x30W panels in parallel to a Victron MPPT controller, so that's a pretty big upgrade alone!













shaggybaxter
QLD, 1752 posts
Tuesday , 20 Aug 2019 4:38PM
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Finished up most of my electrical refit over the weekend. I now have wind data, GPS & heading showing on a plotter. Only thing left is to build a small shelf to install the heading sensor on and finally attach the swingarm to the attachment point I epoxied on the other week (forgot a piece when I went out there). Oh, and tidy up the way the cables run, getting rid of the old stuff.

But I'm super happy with the new solar panels and controller being on there - it had been chugging along with a very old and damaged 40W panel with an eBay PWM controller, it's now got 2x30W panels in parallel to a Victron MPPT controller, so that's a pretty big upgrade alone!














Love the B&G Planeray!
Don't envy you, looks like a big job too. I spend more time trying to make wiring all neat and tidy than I do on the actual job itself.

2bish
TAS, 334 posts
Tuesday , 20 Aug 2019 7:26PM
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Planeray said..
Finished up most of my electrical refit over the weekend. I now have wind data, GPS & heading showing on a plotter. Only thing left is to build a small shelf to install the heading sensor on and finally attach the swingarm to the attachment point I epoxied on the other week (forgot a piece when I went out there). Oh, and tidy up the way the cables run, getting rid of the old stuff.

But I'm super happy with the new solar panels and controller being on there - it had been chugging along with a very old and damaged 40W panel with an eBay PWM controller, it's now got 2x30W panels in parallel to a Victron MPPT controller, so that's a pretty big upgrade alone!














Looking good Planeray, you must be pleased with the install. I'm looking foreward to adding some solar down the track, I like the look of your controller and app.

southace
QLD, 4077 posts
Wednesday , 21 Aug 2019 7:06PM
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Finally got the new solar controller fitted suppose to be Bluetooth via a app on iPad but couldn't find it! Turns out it needs to be the smart version at $500 not for $400 so had to re-order a blue tooth dongle to make it smart for another $79 ....grrrr I hate technology and waiting! Make sure it is the Smart version if you want the new blue tooth built in version. I can't monitor the solar at present but can see a good difference in my volts in this cloudy cold weather.









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