You better be quick, carburreted 2 strokes are being phased out. You can still buy and sell 2nd hand numbers, but the new one on the shelf are the last.
But it's not only outboards, mowers, chainsaws, whacker packers, brushcutters etc are all included

You are aware that from July 1 you will not be able to buy new two strokes that do not comply with emission standards ie.no carbys.
Four better , no fuel mixing , quiet , not that heavier than TT

For a small sub 10hp tender outboard, you'd be an idiot not to go 2 stroke. But any substantive motor, these days its 4 stroke, and for good reason, they work great, no moving oil slick.

Britain got rid of 2 stroke outboards years ago. They now have a strong demand for secondhand small 2 stroke outboards. Same thing will happen here. I have several Victa 160 two stroke motors I'm hoarding. Getting hard to find now. The recycle shops seem to be full of Briggs and Stratten 4 strokes.

I had an old Evinrude 15hp 2stroke for years , never really did any maintenance,sank it ,and still it went! Now have a flash Suzuki four stroke 15hp and like it for a number of reasons, but you got to maintain these puppies as they got oil and filters and they don't like not changing the filter !

Bought 3 non running seagulls last year @ 50 squid each,

Now 2.5 are running, even the one with cracks in the block,
Alas ( not the friendly sheila around the corner ) one gearbox refuses to play nice,

I might chuck the others on ebay for $800...like some l've seen,

Or not...

LooseChange said..
It may be worth considering to lay in a stock of 2 stroke oil as it will possibly become more difficult to source over time.

although it is not ideal you could always use regular motor oil. Growing up, we used plenty of that in our quads without any issues.

2 strokes are easier to service for the DIY and can be stored horizontally

LooseChange said..

Ramona said..

Now that the new fuel injected two stroke large outboards have turned out so well there will always be a demand for TW3 outboard oil.

Only for those owners that choose to run TC-W3 in their motors and most owners that I know that have big outboards run the manufacturers own brew oil. To run TC-W3 requires an adjustment on the ECU so as to inject twice as much and to most people it's just easier to keep using what their brand recommends.

There is an outboard manufacturer who makes their own oil! That stuff would be good enough for an old Evenrude anyway.

tired said..
How much is that stuff again?

About the same price as Dom Perignon is what they are asking.

Off topic - but there was a Chemist over on TSP who had a wealth of information and experience one area was environmental. His considered opinion was that 2 st should not be banned as what oil they do produce is eaten by bacteria and that by feeding these bacteria the environment will cope better with a larger more catastrophic spill.

Do we agreed we should only see blue smoke when starting up the motor?
There seems to be a misconception that 'more oil is better than less'

AUS126 said..

Bundeenabuoy said..

AUS126 said..
I use to not worry about putting too much oil in the fuel, until I saw the unburnt oil come out the exhaust and leave an oil slick. I now realise how polluting 2 strokes are, and would happily put up with a heavier and more complicated outboard. I can see why we are moving on.

Are you saying that oill was running out of the exhaust?

Yes, unburnt oil goes out exhaust. I now tend to mix closer to 70 :1 instead of 50:1. I've been told you can get away with 100:1. Wouldn't want to have a warranty claim though.

You might be getting away without seizing the engine mixing the oil ratio leaner but in reality your just wearing the motor out faster.

Jolene said..

AUS126 said..

Bundeenabuoy said..

AUS126 said..
I use to not worry about putting too much oil in the fuel, until I saw the unburnt oil come out the exhaust and leave an oil slick. I now realise how polluting 2 strokes are, and would happily put up with a heavier and more complicated outboard. I can see why we are moving on.

Are you saying that oill was running out of the exhaust?

Yes, unburnt oil goes out exhaust. I now tend to mix closer to 70 :1 instead of 50:1. I've been told you can get away with 100:1. Wouldn't want to have a warranty claim though.

You might be getting away without seizing the engine mixing oil ratio leaner but in reality your just wearing the motor out faster.

The fuel oil ratio is also affected by the the carby air mix, for instance to get more revs out of a two stroke you can lean it off ( we all know how they go like clappers as the fuel runs out, that's owing to the leaning of of fuel air mix ) but of course leaning the air fuel mix to get more revs means less lubricating oil for the engine, that is unless you increase the oil to fuel ratio to compensate.
Proably has no bearing on the average outboard, but I've used this method to squeeze more go out of every 2/ I've ever owned since I was put onto that theory in the pits at Liverpool speed way as a lad, and all of my bikes, mowers, brushcutters, chainsaws easily lasted as long if not longer that the the equivalent unit in other hands.
Golden rule- dedicated container, oil 1st ie: no oil in the container, no fuel in the container ever !

AUS126 said..

Bundeenabuoy said..

AUS126 said..
I use to not worry about putting too much oil in the fuel, until I saw the unburnt oil come out the exhaust and leave an oil slick. I now realise how polluting 2 strokes are, and would happily put up with a heavier and more complicated outboard. I can see why we are moving on.

Are you saying that oill was running out of the exhaust?

Yes, unburnt oil goes out exhaust. I now tend to mix closer to 70 :1 instead of 50:1. I've been told you can get away with 100:1. Wouldn't want to have a warranty claim though.

One part of the 2 cycle phase is the bit where the piston travels toward the bottom of the stroke compressing the airfuel mixture in the crankcase. This pressurised mixture is released into the cylinder via ports and some of it makes its way out through the exhaust port flushing the spent combustion gases out of the cylinder before the piston(on its way back up) closes off the exhaust.
Its perfectly natural to have an unburnt mixture in the exhaust.
On 2 stroke race engines , by designing an exhaust that utilizes sound and pressure waves created when the exhaust port cracks open, this unburnt mixture can be forced back into the cylinder (by sound/pressure waves), effectively raising the compression ratio which can result in a massive boost in power.